Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia | GAME OVER: Not Equal To The Challenge

[FullMetalLynch]

plus league addiction, Infernal nasus Riot never wants me to afford my own place

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Dude cut the AtE then, it's not helping. I'm looking to get you to calm down and read the Xastrn convos with a clear mind. I'm looking for answers, not mud slinging and AtE "oh poor me I hate being town and no one understands me" bull****

Step it up.

already did. the first ones i dont buy, havent looked at the second ones and likely wont tonight because i hate being salty

 

[Kantrip]

already did. the first ones i dont buy, havent looked at the second ones and likely wont tonight because i hate being salty

Well the second ones were produced on the spot upon my sudden request, include small talk not related to the game and a bunch of stuff that is related to the game. They didn't have time to fake it, so it's kind of worth your time.

 

[Xastrn]

Can we just get this over with? I'm with RR on this right now. I can't wait for D3. It's going to be SO different. It will be like we get to play again.

One thing I can promise is that I will most likely play a less major role D3. I won't have the same time, but the good thing is that we will have fewer players to worry about, so hopefully it works out to have less back and forth going on. We'll have a lot more to work with.

 

[Xivii]

Want Kantrip to shoot Ran.

 

[Kantrip]

Want Kantrip to shoot Ran.

Ran? After all this?

You're gonna have to elaborate a bit on why.

 

[Xivii]

I get my credibility back and get to see if you can shoot.

 

[Kantrip]

You can see if I can shoot if I shoot anyone and I don't give a **** about your credibility.

Comment on FML and recent events

 

[Xastrn]

Zen. ...
You really think Ran is the best shot right now? and putting up with more of this FML stuff is beneficial for a healthy Day 3? Consider what you want D3 to be like.

 

[Xivii]

Will bet my mafia career FML is town. Has been on all game. I think the biggest mistake you guys are making in reading him is from overestimating their intelligence (no offense lol). Ran is obvscum. Especially since Rajam replaced in. They're so... artificial. Not seeing how FML stuff will carry into D3 upon Ran's flip.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Want Kantrip to shoot Ran.

Where have you been?

 

[Xastrn]

Ran might be scum. He might make a great D3 candidate. In the meantime, do you want D3 to go like D2? I'd make the same bet that FML is scum. I'll say if FML flips scum, then our first focus should be Potassium and if by some ungodly reason we've had the two worst town plays in row with soup's D1 and FML's D2, then the Ran case will have some legs.

This game is bonkers. I think most of us agree that FML is scum, and it's just a matter of whoever can shoot to shoot and end this phase of the game so we can move on.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ran? After all this?

You're gonna have to elaborate a bit on why.

Umm, well no one can really say how they felt with the role pm situation so idk there.

Still don't like Ran's slot.

FML I don't think is scum from his responses.

 

[Xivii]

Where have you been?

Been out doing Life.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

At the very least I think one of FML or Ran is scum then maybe a Kantrip.

That's what I think atm.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Been out doing Life.

Was weird with spurts of activity.

Read on Kantrip?

 

[Xivii]

Ran might be scum. He might make a great D3 candidate. In the meantime, do you want D3 to go like D2? I'd make the same bet that FML is scum. I'll say if FML flips scum, then our first focus should be Potassium and if by some ungodly reason we've had the two worst town plays in row with soup's D1 and FML's D2, then the Ran case will have some legs.

This game is bonkers. I think most of us agree that FML is scum, and it's just a matter of whoever can shoot to shoot and end this phase of the game so we can move on.

Even if we shoot FML, I want Kantrip to do it, not Kary. Telling you though, FML is gonna flip town. Like he's really not that hard to read.

 

[Xivii]

Was weird with spurts of activity.

Read on Kantrip?

Ran > Sokr > Kantrip

in terms of scuminess.

 

[Xastrn]

Zen, I wish I could agree with you because I KNOW you're town, but my list is like this:

FML >>>>>>>>>> Potassium > Ran

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

This game is bonkers. I think most of us agree that FML is scum, and it's just a matter of whoever can shoot to shoot and end this phase of the game so we can move on.

If they never posted I'd agree.

But they did and I really don't think FML is scum from his responses.

The odd thing is the Role PM thing, but if what Rake says is true that they thought they saw it but weren't sure then I could understand how they acted, though them thinking you faked the convo isn't something I agree with, it is a thought that crossed me when I read it. I just don't think you guys would put the effort to fake a 4 hour long convo with you guys talking about your role.

Ran/Rajam haven't fixed my thoughts on them.

FML I'm very very conflicted on.

 

[Xivii]

Kantrip is only really scummy from connection and my suspicion of his shooting ability though. I think if he were to shoot scum Ran most of my scum feels of him would dissolve.

 

[Xivii]

Zen, I wish I could agree with you because I KNOW you're town, but my list is like this:

FML >>>>>>>>>> Potassium > Ran

Then TRUST me. Trust my experience with FML.

 

[Xastrn]

Potassium, if you have the ability to kill, do it now. If FML STILL thinks we're scum at this point even after our most recent facebook chat handed to you when asked immediately, I don't know how else to read him but scum scum scum.

It's time for you to prove you still have a weapon by using it now.

If you're town, take the shot. It will bring you down past Ran in my eyes for sure.

Kary, if you're here, you don't have to wait for Potassium. A kill is a kill, and we can get on with D3 sooner.

ANYONE ELSE WITH AN ACTION:

Feel free to jump into this melee and take a shot.

I am hoping not to post again tonight. I'd like to get some time to do something else with my night.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Notice how he keeps saying cleared when this is not true.

We're not scum so, have fun with that.

Look more readswapping thats cool, not scummy when you do it right ? Only scummy if your scum reads do it i see how it is. Good try though

I agree they are not cleared, but that convo.

I really don't think they faked that.

 

[Xastrn]

If they never posted I'd agree.

But they did and I really don't think FML is scum from his responses.

The odd thing is the Role PM thing, but if what Rake says is true that they thought they saw it but weren't sure then I could understand how they acted, though them thinking you faked the convo isn't something I agree with, it is a thought that crossed me when I read it. I just don't think you guys would put the effort to fake a 4 hour long convo with you guys talking about your role.

Ran/Rajam haven't fixed my thoughts on them.

FML I'm very very conflicted on.

How. How?

How?

How can FML be not scum from his responses. He ignored obvious evidence to that we were town. If one of them thought they saw a role PM and STILL thought we were scum, then that's just insane. Absolutely the nail in the coffin that they are scum.

But now we need more evidence. So you read this huge 2 page diatribe of them just using AtE and hacking and slashing and woe is me, and Xast is super scummy, and blah blah blah.

No, I don't trust your read on this one. Even Potassium can't. Our newest FB chatlog was evidence enough that even during this whole thing, we were sure on our scum pick and weren't scum chatting about night kills or anything. We have proven over and over that we are town. FML ignores it and says we are scum and tries to get town riled up.

FML has succeeded. Town is riled up again. Even in our FB chat from just now, Xatres posted that if FML is scum and Potassium perhaps is too, then they are plaing scum JUST RIGHT in this situation. Sling around a bunch of doubt in 100 directions and get things confusing again, right when we had clarity.

You tell me, Zen. Is FML reading our chats and honestly believing that in 3 minutes, I faked a 70 minute conversation with Xatres, all just in case someone asked for another chat log?

Is that rational at all?

FML are either INSANE (which I don't believe) or they is scum. It's plain and simple.

What on earth is there to be conflicted about?

 

[Xivii]

Potassium, if you have the ability to kill, do it now. If FML STILL thinks we're scum at this point even after our most recent facebook chat handed to you when asked immediately, I don't know how else to read him but scum scum scum.

It's time for you to prove you still have a weapon by using it now.

If you're town, take the shot. It will bring you down past Ran in my eyes for sure.

Kary, if you're here, you don't have to wait for Potassium. A kill is a kill, and we can get on with D3 sooner.

ANYONE ELSE WITH AN ACTION:

Feel free to jump into this melee and take a shot.

I am hoping not to post again tonight. I'd like to get some time to do something else with my night.

Why are you doing this man

I think the main reason why I'm able to see FML's perspective is because you ARE scummy. You play scummy. You've been playing scummy all game. If it weren't for the roles, I would have been on you just the same. I can see why they think you guys could have faked the convos. I don't agree with it, but I can see how they saw it that way. You guys are able to type paragraphs in seconds. Faking convos isn't hard to do. I used to parody it all the time. (Will get some examples if I remember the games).

 

[Kantrip]

You're both bribing me by saying you'll townread me if I shoot the person you want me to shoot and I hate it

I don't want a townread from you guys, I want my shot to hit scum

**** this gaaaaame

 

[Kantrip]

Xastrn it's not insane to be town, legit frustrated, and try to fight your lynch.

 

[Kantrip]

Kary who do you want deadddddd?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Faking convos isn't hard to do. I used to parody it all the time. (Will get some examples if I remember the games).

Typing a fake convo isn't hard, but typing a lengthy and believable one is.

Unless they both got on facebook and said, "hey for 4 hours lets fake pretend we are town" if they did that I wouldn't have seen something unnatural, I actually read the whole thing in detail mfw.

If they faked by typing it in word, something would have been off in terms of player interaction unless they are 5 star writers.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Xastrn it's not insane to be town, legit frustrated, and try to fight your lynch.

So you want FML dead or...?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Going to bed, probs may not be able to post here tomarrow, if you shoot don't go wild on your pick.

 

[Kantrip]

So you want FML dead or...?

I don't know what I want anymore except for Xastrn to stop being so wrong every time they speak

 

[Xivii]

Only one I remember at the moment:

[collapse=hydra log]Zen: What do you think about Vocal?
Buddha: meh lookin town to me
Zen: Why? He thinks we are town yet he also has this weird fixation/paranoia with who we think is scum. Why is he so focused on that?
Zen: Looking at the roster, there's quite a few people who haven't contributed at all. Yet he's so so focused on us.
Zen: Soup is inactive. Ryu has like what 5 posts? And he's still voting us for RVS wut.
Zen: In fact now that I think about it, what do you think about RyuScum?
Zen: He voted us after because I was asking about his restriction. But his recent post was just leeching off of SoldGlyph's reasoning. Then he goes on saying how he would ISO us. Wut. Looks to me like he already has it set that he's gonna call us scum. He hasn't done anything else this game.
Zen: You there?
Zen :O
Zen: heg7hhrby
Zen: bleh
Buddha: ye sori bout that. was doin ****.
Zen: Doing what?
Buddha: doin ****.
Buddha: like literally
Zen: ???
Buddha: forget it. i agree on ryu scum.
Buddha: plus inactive ryu = scum ryu. looks lot like FE.
Zen: kk. Yeah. The only thing that makes me think he's town though is that when he was scum in FE he was much more wishy washy. Here he reacted to our surface value crap like instinctively. Like when we attacked Nabe in Superheros and he claimed our Mason and voted us right away.
Morgan Freeman has joined the chat
Buddha: ye i was thinking that too.
Buddha: wow Freeman sup
Zen: Hey Morgan
Morgan Freeman: Hello Zen. Hello Buddha.
Morgan Freeman: You are talking about Pokemafia, I see?
Zen: Yeah you been reading?
Morgan Freeman: I have.
Zen: Thoughts?
Morgan Freeman: Oh my, Buddha...
Morgan Freeman: Zen, I disagree with the two of you over the meta-game on Red Ryu. Fire Emblem was some time ago, I'm sure his scum game has developed since then. I recall reading a game he was mafia in a bit a go, in fact. His play there was quite different from Fire Emblem.
Buddha: huh? @ freeman
Buddha: o the **** thing. yeah lmao
Zen: o_O
Zen: @ Morgan, I guess. So you think he's scum?
Morgan Freeman: I am not positive, but I would say that his lack of contribution this game as well as his unreasonable push on our slot warrants placing him in that category.
Zen: Alright I agree.
Zen: Morgan, what's your read on Vocal. Some of his posts look kinda fake. Like that post where he's asking people questions. I don't see ehat he gained from them. Why did he ask Laundry why he was voting us when it's been pretty clear? Buddha thinks he's town. I'm not sure.
Buddha: ur kinda makin me think he's scum from that
Morgan Freeman: I have been getting town vibes from Vocal's posts. The "STATE. YOUR. CLAIM." post in particular I am fond of. He gave a very reasonable response to your accusation, and I don't get any sense of guilt. He has been able to reasonably back up previous accusations made against him as well.
Buddha: yea that's where im pretty much at with that.
Zen: Alright. Still suspicious to me a bit though.
Buddha: if anything i don't think he's the play for today.
Morgan Freeman: I agree, I would like to keep him around.
Zen: kk
Zen: Thoughts on everyone else?
Zen: When do you guys think we should post our reads?
Buddha: probably soon. deadline is soon.
Buddha: btw did you see the claim lol
Zen: Yeah xD
Buddha: should be interesting
Zen: Yeah
Zen: Man I was hoping to get more from the day, but our main scum pick has hardly been posting.
Morgan Freeman: I have a town read on The Savage Nymph, Ryker, Inferno, WashedLaundry, Vocal, and Panta. My scum reads are as before.
Zen: Why Panta?
Morgan Freeman: His catch up post appeared thought out. The fact that he analyzed his aggressor, Ryker, critically also leads me to believe that he is without guilt.
Buddha: agree with those town reads. Soup is town also
Zen: Soup hasn't even posted. And Morgan agree woth that and the rest of the town reads.
Zen: with*
Buddha: he did a bit at the beginning. i think i can read him pretty well and just from that I'd say he's town.
Zen: Buddha you say that about everybody.
Buddha: nah dude trust me hes town.
Zen: fine fine so we have as town: Larxine, Ryker, Inferno, Laundry, Vocal, Panta, and Soup. And as scum: Gheb, Gordito, and Ryu, yeah? What about DH and SoldGlyph?
Buddha: eh dh is toss up. id lynch him based on policy
Morgan Freeman: I agree. I feel sad for Dark Horse, really.
Zen: Yeah.
Zen: SoldGlyph?
Morgan Freeman: SilphCo could possibly be scum. They haven't said enough to have a definite read on. I am leaning town on their slot, however.
Zen: Same
Buddha: good with me
Zen: Alright. Since deadline is soon I'm just gonna go head and post our reads. might as well post our log.
Buddha: asdioh's allowing that?
Zen: Yeah
Buddha: ok i see no problem then
Morgan Freeman: Go for it.
Zen: kk posting now [/collapse]


Vote: Gheb

Zen is...Zen.

But why should I bother? he's just broken two rules, I think ("no hydra logs and no communicating with outside players"), so he probably has a countdown on his head.

hehehe

 

[Xivii]

No time stamps. Definitely could though. And two times as fast with an actual hydra partner. Point is dgames has been taught not to clear off hydra logs. I agree, that your logs are obvious, but I also see why FML didn't see that.

 

[Xastrn]

@Zen: Ignoring FML's massive AtE posting, his posts were filled with paper-thin accusations that we were scum, poor logic, and a blatant contradiction on the reason he separated from us. First he said he couldn't stop the mob, then he said everything cooled down and he felt like he'd had enough from the conversation. Either he lied the first time or lied the second. That's not to mention everything Dastrn said in his last post.

Besides all that, we have a lot more to gain from FML's flip than Ran's. Ran only has a few week connections we can learn from. For the most part, he's just tunneled dabuz and allowed Rajam to hydra 3 pages behind the rest of the conversation. Whether Ran flips town or scum, most of his play gets chalked up to "bad scum" or "bad town" without us learning much else about the game.

FML's flip is much more valuable at this point. He has significant connections that will garner a lot of info for town D3.

I also wholehearted agree that I prefer Potassium to hammer. The longer he holds out, the more scummy he looks. He's been threatening to shoot all Day, and if he's town, he can buy himself some goodwill by making the kill toDay. If he's scum, then we get his weapon off the board and he inherits FML's weapon (which there's at least a decent chance he can't use).

@Potassium: Don't wait for Kary to make the kill for you. It's time to hammer.

 

[Kantrip]

Xastrn calm your ***. I don't care if waiting is making me "look scummier," there is stuff going on again and I'm going to let it play out. I gave FML until tomorrow night and I'm going to continue to give them until tomorrow night, so stop trying to rush the kill.

 

[Xivii]

You're both bribing me by saying you'll townread me if I shoot the person you want me to shoot and I hate it

I don't want a townread from you guys, I want my shot to hit scum

**** this gaaaaame

If you really want this, then shoot that ***** Ran who has been playing artificially since he's first got in. Why post a read list with reads you know are incorrect because of the flips? Ran had no reason to make his opening posts other than to look town, to show that he was doing something.

Ran has been skimming hard core to the maximum. You know how Ran is. He GOES OVER EVERY THING. Every small thing. He does not just glance over PAGES because they don't seem like something of interest to him. Especially when it's cases on people lmao.

Rajam has stuck to Ran's scum reads upon replacing in. This is very indicative that their reads are artificial. Not to mention their two scum reads are both players that are in support position.

 

[Kantrip]

They each have 3 scumreads iirc?

Ran said Ruy, dabuz and you
Rajam said Kary, dabuz and you

Ruy and Kary aren't in support position, and also I don't see how that's telling. Why can't scum be in support position? Or you just think it's convenient that their scumpicks can't be shot? Cuz that's bull**** reasoning on your part and you know it.

I don't know how Ran behaves upon replacing in, and skimming stuff and skipping to what he finds important could very well be a part of it.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Kary who do you want deadddddd?

Zen coming in here last minute is interesting, but I still think FML is the play. You could shoot Ran if you want, but I think shooting FML has a higher %scum and tells you more.

Also, you should really just ignore every single thing Xast posts. Barely worth reading.

I'm out for now I imagine. Ciao.