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Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

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Lol if the truth is cringeworthy you can go up on the chopping block. Not putting up with your bull****.
Dude calm down. I said to ignore that first part and address the more substantial topic. Which is what Shish said.
 

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You're much more aggressive as Town, you barely moved an inch until the Ura wagon started. Now you started the Day voting Pokrchu without so much of a thought.

What is that supposed to mean?

Anyways, just tell us what you did with your role last Night.
A, well, B-Tard multiplier generally means you have a chance of getting the wrong result.

The first day I decided to be more passive at first, then strike later. This day, I tried to change it up somewhat because that almost killed someone who is likely townie. I know correlation isn't causation and whatnot, but I thought I'd put a placeholder vote.

And I mean is it really that different? I started day one off with a random vote on Jojalole before switching. Not too much different here.
 

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Dude calm down. I said to ignore that first part and address the more substantial topic. Which is what Shish said.
Dude you threw a temper tantrum yesterday. You're not one to call others cringeworthy and tell them to calm down. :rolleyes:
 

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Dude you threw a temper tantrum yesterday. You're not one to call others cringeworthy and tell them to calm down. :rolleyes:
Fair point.

Look dude I didn't mean to upset you. Can we just address the claims Shish made against you and drop the voting stuff?
 
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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but voting for a confirmed Townie is the worst thing you could have done in this situation. I don't like how Ura has been reacting but this is no reason to vote him.
A, well, B-Tard multiplier generally means you have a chance of getting the wrong result.

The first day I decided to be more passive at first, then strike later. This day, I tried to change it up somewhat because that almost killed someone who is likely townie. I know correlation isn't causation and whatnot, but I thought I'd put a placeholder vote.

And I mean is it really that different? I started day one off with a random vote on Jojalole before switching. Not too much different here.
Not as far as I'm aware. And it's modifier.

That was RVS, we're past Day 1 now and the last thing we want is to have votes lead to a majority before we can properly discuss things.
 

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I'd refrain on voting for Opo just now. I mean he's kinda sketch based on what Shish said but I don't want the pitchforks coming out just yet.
 

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I was giving you the benefit of the doubt but voting for a confirmed Townie is the worst thing you could have done in this situation. I don't like how Ura has been reacting but this is no reason to vote him.

Not as far as I'm aware. And it's modifier.

That was RVS, we're past Day 1 now and the last thing we want is to have votes lead to a majority before we can properly discuss things.
One vote on him's meaningless. Just consider it "don't be a ****" insurance. Know my intent is to vote for Stoopid.

Goddamn it why did I say multiplier.


I just like having a vote out there just to get discussion going. But my votes are fluid usually so they don't stay in one place too long.
 

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For real tho Opossum Opossum I didn't mean to offend you. Hope you didn't take it personally.
 
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I'll take that answer for now. I vote to take care of the inactives first then.
 

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Shadow being scum would be the most unorthodox thing i've ever seen.

I mean a mafia member not logging in to be completely removed from everything and then showing up at the end.

Despite this, I think this is honestly him just logging off and forgetting about the site. He only joined like a week or two ago so maybe he left the site.
 

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Either way, lynching him really doesn't put the town in harm.

If he's mafia, yay, one less scum.

If he's town, he's literally done nothing since Tuesday, and with how quickly the night phase went by, we can assume that he doesn't have a PR either.

If he doesn't show up, he literally brings nothing to the table except a higher chance of us getting a LyLo situation.
 
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Honestly, I am still considering an Uni lynch. His vote on Ura is still the most suspicious by far.and his reaction to my vote still feels... off.
 

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I don't think Shish's role would have a modifier, if Spak had a doctor, lie detect & character reveal, and a cop check then I don't think Shish's Neapolitan role would be that wack, that'd be more of a detriment to town than if he was just vanilla.

So IDK, if Shish actually got a bingo I think we should take Opo out. His role doesn't matter now, now that the mafia knows he isn't vanilla, so he's going to be killed anyways if he is town. But that's just my $0.02
 
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I don't think Shish's role would have a modifier, if Spak had a doctor, lie detect & character reveal, and a cop check then I don't think Shish's Neapolitan role would be that wack, that'd be more of a detriment to town than if he was just vanilla.

So IDK, if Shish actually got a bingo I think we should take Opo out. His role doesn't matter now, now that the mafia knows he isn't vanilla, so he's going to be killed anyways if he is town. But that's just my $0.02
'kay, you know what Chu?

Unvote: Shadow
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You're outright considering the possibility of lynching a PR, if he's anything but an Investigative, he holds all the weight in the world.
 

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'kay, you know what Chu?

Unvote: Shadow
Vote: Pokechu



You're outright considering the possibility of lynching a PR, if he's anything but an Investigative, he holds all the weight in the world.
idk I mean, I did say that's just my $0.02, and that he might be the mafia nightkill regardless so lynching him might not make any difference. If he's not Vanilla and we already have you, Spak, and Shiny who have been not Vanilla, then it's hard to believe 4/10 townies have roles. That's why I think Opo's sketch. I'd say he's a better pick than lynching Shadow, who 99% is Vanilla because otherwise the night wouldn't have ended early (although he could still be a Mafia goon, I think it's just silly to bank on that).

I didn't place a vote on Opo or anything either, I was just saying my thoughts.
 

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All aboard the Chu Chu train!!!! :troll:
 
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idk I mean, I did say that's just my $0.02, and that he might be the mafia nightkill regardless so lynching him might not make any difference. If he's not Vanilla and we already have you, Spak, and Shiny who have been not Vanilla, then it's hard to believe 4/10 townies have roles. That's why I think Opo's sketch. I'd say he's a better pick than lynching Shadow, who 99% is Vanilla because otherwise the night wouldn't have ended early (although he could still be a Mafia goon, I think it's just silly to bank on that).

I didn't place a vote on Opo or anything either, I was just saying my thoughts.
If he can be the Mafia kill, then let him be the Mafia kill. Though I believe I'm the one they'll be gunning for now.

Honestly, all kinds of thoughts are running inside my head, Bard tried to push Ura too, Uni had a weird vote, Opo is not being Opo, Jojalole has said nothing, I can't read Moydow, and it's all just ugh, I want an easier time.
 
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Okay, **** this, whatever, I'll let RNG decide

Vote: Jojalole
 

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If he can be the Mafia kill, then let him be the Mafia kill. Though I believe I'm the one they'll be gunning for now.

Honestly, all kinds of thoughts are running inside my head, Bard tried to push Ura too, Uni had a weird vote, Opo is not being Opo, Jojalole has said nothing, I can't read Moydow, and it's all just ugh, I want an easier time.
That makes sense, let him soak up a night, I hadn't considered it from that view, huh. That makes sense!

I just think that because Opo is either a Town PR (which I think we've had too many of, he would be the fourth) or a mafia, that's why he should be the lynch. If he's a town PR we wouldn't be able to benefit from him, if he's a mafia, then ay, we got one out! But that's just my view.
 

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now it's not a train though if it's just me and Ryu... rip

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Moydow Moydow

What's you favorite color, color pair (so two colors together), and food? :confused:

Sorry for tagging. I just wanna hear more from you! :laugh:
 

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I also don't think Joja's sketch, he hasn't posted much but he was the one to notice the vote miscount and I think that shows he had the interests of a townie.
 
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I don't like people who disappear for most of the Day and then immediatelly show up on the phase shift, looks too convenient to me.
 

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Well, that lie detect was really convenient, convenient on a level I hadn't even thought of before LOL

but it was a thing, so honestly at this point I'm not sure anything else will shock me :laugh:
 

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Hey guys, sorry I didn't notice right away that the thread opened.

Ura Ura I'm sorry for misreading you man. A part of me felt you were likely Town with the 1-man mafia post, but the double vote post just seemed like fluff and then I started thinking maybe the 1-man mafia post was fluff too. Fluff is a post that involves someone acting like they are contributing, but not actually contributing much of pertinent value with their posts. My gut instinct was that you were Town, but a little devil crawled up on my shoulder and said "but what if he's not and he's faking content?" Unfortunately I wasn't there that morning when Spak claimed a lie detector, so I could not respond to it accordingly.

In other news:

I'm kind of confused. Shish is claiming a role that is able to determine whether or not someone is VT, yes? And Opossum has claimed opposite of that claim. And, uh, then he just voted for Ura. Also, Opossum's reasoning for questioning Spak's claim is highly suspect to me. Anyway, if this is true and not some gambit, I think it is undeniable that Opossum probably needs to die...unless something is amiss that I am not aware of.

Fire Emblemier Fire Emblemier hypothetically, if ShadowTheHedgehogZ ShadowTheHedgehogZ stays logged off Smashboards, how long will it take for him to be replaced/modkilled?

LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf I see that you liked Moydow's post, but have otherwise not contributed much to the thread. Do you think Moydow is Town? What are your thoughts on the roster?
 

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. . . What the hell did i miss the last phase?

. . . Okay looking through i don't want answers to it that are irrelevant to the game at hand.

I'll say this though, Ura you owe a sincere apology to shishoe and pokechu for the very manner of behavior you have conducted there, it was painful to read through. For now focus on the game but afterwards you better be ernest for your disrespectful temper.

Ok. Now onto the matter of today, now that we have some well being info into the day. I'll speak up my own views, I have no idea what the hell got Spak killed but his actions do indeed confirmed Ura as a town member, and through the numerous pressure votes that come about it can be unanimously agreed that 1 or more mafia members jumped onto for the easy lynch. Though it is indeed good cover with how Ura was acting and the coincidental timing of some events lining up that put him in under more suspicion.

Regardless, the focus is to discern who is guilty in terms of attempted to lynch Ura.

Pokechu is of reasonable question, however in the two games i have seen him interact in i find no indeed scumslips, his standard voting descriptioncy of actions seem to be of natural nature. Though i only have two games of mafia experience with him to fully tell a story and have little experience to go off of when he actually is mafia. Regardless i stand mixed with a edge towards town.

Shishoe. . . I personally find you questionable. Your role you claim and your action seems out of order of this game. First you pursue opossum on the claims that you checked them and then you very well go for another person. And beyond that you also change your votes rapidly sway without any structure, especially after you were heavily convince of a target. Not only that but from what i can confirm first time where a heavy instigator against ura before. Your actions and behavior seem largely against town interest from what i read up on and seem to have some similar behavior back in FEH mafia.

Opossum I don't have much of a read on towards. They exist that much i can tell you, they do seem to have a strategy approach of "come to me" which may bear their silence. As a particularity person who prefers silence also i can't find problem unless to be hypocritical of myself.

Ura. No need to mention here

Jojaole, also been particular quiet and off this place. However in what little interactions he has given seem to hint towards me more of a town feeling. He also hasn't shown an off feeling and would be one of the more trust likely players in my book.

Bardul His push was justified as with all against Ura at the time, but that is by no means a defense for themselves. They are a suspect but i don't have a particularly bad feeling of one from them.

Shadow, he has been completely inactive, to much so to the point that i don't believe they are playing anymore, i can't recall the last time they posted here except on opening day. Mafia can easily blend in through being inactive but at this point i don't think any alignment justifies complete ditch. They are null as far as i am concerned.

Red Ryu seems to pop in every now and then to drop a quick point then carry on, whatever that means for who they are i'm uncertain but so far they are a suspect in the pool.

Moydow, has been popping in occasionally, I literally have nothing to say about them, they seem to stand neutral and be around neutrally, another player that exists and plays the game.

Unikorn, is definitely have some terms of sketch in them, whether that is dodgy or trying to avoid attention i can't say, I do know the lack of placement here is accurate to his rough schedule as me and him are long term friends. I also have a busy schedule so i can understand the roughness it is, though that is no excuse for his particularly sketchy behavior.

And thats all word i have for the night. If need be i'll be around though sleep first. I regain once again of my promp me first and i'll respond, though i'll be more open then shut.
 

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Hey guys, sorry I didn't notice right away that the thread opened.

Ura Ura I'm sorry for misreading you man. A part of me felt you were likely Town with the 1-man mafia post, but the double vote post just seemed like fluff and then I started thinking maybe the 1-man mafia post was fluff too. Fluff is a post that involves someone acting like they are contributing, but not actually contributing much of pertinent value with their posts. My gut instinct was that you were Town, but a little devil crawled up on my shoulder and said "but what if he's not and he's faking content?" Unfortunately I wasn't there that morning when Spak claimed a lie detector, so I could not respond to it accordingly.

In other news:

I'm kind of confused. Shish is claiming a role that is able to determine whether or not someone is VT, yes? And Opossum has claimed opposite of that claim. And, uh, then he just voted for Ura. Also, Opossum's reasoning for questioning Spak's claim is highly suspect to me. Anyway, if this is true and not some gambit, I think it is undeniable that Opossum probably needs to die...unless something is amiss that I am not aware of.

Fire Emblemier Fire Emblemier hypothetically, if ShadowTheHedgehogZ ShadowTheHedgehogZ stays logged off Smashboards, how long will it take for him to be replaced/modkilled?

LoneKonWolf LoneKonWolf I see that you liked Moydow's post, but have otherwise not contributed much to the thread. Do you think Moydow is Town? What are your thoughts on the roster?
Simply in the middle of typing. I prefer to make long posts to explain on mind best i can on every matter i can.
 

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Lol Shish you were on my kinda suspicious part, but I am reading you as town now. Don't know what the hell are you doing with your votes to be honest.

Either way, since we have Ura as confirmed townie, my little thoughts on the game. Pokechu I feel is definitely town, he didn't vote for Ura after all and I see his interactions as normal. Shish I think is town too, however I don't understand anything about your voting process. I really liked KonWolf big message, because I was sketch with him since he didn't say nothing but I agree with most of what he said.

My 3 most suspicious are Opo, Red Ryu and Uni. Opossum voted Ura and refused to believe any kind of justification, and now Shish is saying that he isn't Vanilla even though he claimed so. He might as well be the cop or some PR like that, but he can also be a scum lying his ass. Then Red Ryu has just posted short burst messages voting for almost every town player we have confirmed. To be honest, I don't know how he plays but that's the impression he's giving, not pro town at all. Last we have Uni, sorry but that "vote to add pressure" with no context on that vote when there were 3 votes already on Ura seems really stupid from town perspective.

The rest: Bardull, Moydow and StHz. I can't read this guys because they haven't talked enough for me to make an opinion. StHz should be host-killed at this point because he isn't even on the site.

I'll try be more active this day.
 

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@Shishœ your behavior is strange towards Opossum. Were you gambiting his slot, or is he definitely lying to us? I respect pursuing other avenues, but this is still pretty confusing.

Why should I believe he's a lie detector? Especially after the town reprimanded Shiny for coming out as the Jailer on day one.


Waaaaay too convenient.
What proof? Show me any tangible proof that he's a lie detector.

You asked for a lie detector, which seems like a stretch considering this is a mostly vanilla game and lie detectors in our old games never had day confirmation.

A supposed lie detector responds immediately and can conveniently check duri the day, despite us reprimanding Shiny for claiming Jailer openly.

And conveniently, he states you aren't lying.



It doesn't add up, Ura.
My problem with Opossum's reasoning largely has to do with a few things:

1. Town reprimanding Shiny for claiming is fair because Shiny claimed upon being asked if he had anything to share. Go figure, he ended up getting killed last night. This is so far away from the context of Spak's claim, whom was claiming directly as a result of Ura's slot being pushed towards the edge of a cliff.

2. Asking for tangible proof that Spak's a lie detector when there's no such thing as tangible proof outside of mod confirmation. Undermining the authenticity of Spak's claim was a direct method of trying to get Ura killed, and it just seems like Opossum was not trying to be open-minded about the possibility that Spak was telling the truth.

Vote: Opossum
 

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Lol Shish you were on my kinda suspicious part, but I am reading you as town now. Don't know what the hell are you doing with your votes to be honest.

Either way, since we have Ura as confirmed townie, my little thoughts on the game. Pokechu I feel is definitely town, he didn't vote for Ura after all and I see his interactions as normal. Shish I think is town too, however I don't understand anything about your voting process. I really liked KonWolf big message, because I was sketch with him since he didn't say nothing but I agree with most of what he said.

My 3 most suspicious are Opo, Red Ryu and Uni. Opossum voted Ura and refused to believe any kind of justification, and now Shish is saying that he isn't Vanilla even though he claimed so. He might as well be the cop or some PR like that, but he can also be a scum lying his ***. Then Red Ryu has just posted short burst messages voting for almost every town player we have confirmed. To be honest, I don't know how he plays but that's the impression he's giving, not pro town at all. Last we have Uni, sorry but that "vote to add pressure" with no context on that vote when there were 3 votes already on Ura seems really stupid from town perspective.

The rest: Bardull, Moydow and StHz. I can't read this guys because they haven't talked enough for me to make an opinion. StHz should be host-killed at this point because he isn't even on the site.

I'll try be more active this day.
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[IMG]https://smashboards.com/data/avatars/s/239/239596.jpg?1533224760[/IMG] Shishœ your behavior is strange towards Opossum. Were you gambiting his slot, or is he definitely lying to us? I respect pursuing other avenues, but this is still pretty confusing
I've been having my suspicions of Opo since Day 1 but since there's no point in carrying it, yes, it was a gambit, I'm not a Neopolitan.
His reaction seems genuine but his other actions still feel off to me. On one hand, I have very little of Scum!Opo from past games to analyze, but I'm gonna have to believe him to be Town, otherwise, he would have tried to get me lynched after saying I was full of bull**** to get rid of me or fakeclaimed something because it would be too risky for a Mafioso to deny an investigative result they know should be true.


As for my votes, I've just been stressed out because I'm seeing too much suspicious actiom, more than should be avaible, but I guess I'm not one to complain about that after my little gambit.

And if you guys wanna lynch me after this, go ahead, it's not like I have a better suspect.
 

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Vote: Uni

There. The punishment vote period is over now. :p

@Shishœ your behavior is strange towards Opossum. Were you gambiting his slot, or is he definitely lying to us? I respect pursuing other avenues, but this is still pretty confusing.





My problem with Opossum's reasoning largely has to do with a few things:

1. Town reprimanding Shiny for claiming is fair because Shiny claimed upon being asked if he had anything to share. Go figure, he ended up getting killed last night. This is so far away from the context of Spak's claim, whom was claiming directly as a result of Ura's slot being pushed towards the edge of a cliff.

2. Asking for tangible proof that Spak's a lie detector when there's no such thing as tangible proof outside of mod confirmation. Undermining the authenticity of Spak's claim was a direct method of trying to get Ura killed, and it just seems like Opossum was not trying to be open-minded about the possibility that Spak was telling the truth.

Vote: Opossum
My main concern was a ploy by which two mafiosos would "confirm" each other as town. It's happened several times in games I've hosted or played, so I was wary of it. It just seemed too convenient. It still seems too convenient. But I can't argue with Spak's flip, and after all, truth is stranger than fiction.


Uni is highly suspect in my mind due to him hopping on the Ura bandwagon with zero hesitation or justification, just a quick hi-bye drive-by. I at least made sure to say why I voted for Uni.
 

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Are you actually taking this **** seriously?

Really not helping matter dude. You still wanted me dead over others all because of a bandwagon and you wanted to insinuate I was an indy. Just wanting to add more fuel for my lynching.
No **** I would do that over a no lynch. Giving mafia complete control over who lives or dies is a terrible idea.

I had zero interest in keeping you around with how you were posting.
 
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