Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[Pokechu]

Pokechu Pokechu
Can you tell me why you didn't vote for Ura?

I wasn't that suspicious of Ura himself. I was more suspicious of the convenience of him asking for help from a Lie Detector, and there actually being one. That would've led me to place my vote on Spak, but I didn't want to vote for him solely for that, since that's mechanic-based and not read-based (and I read him as town before it).

During the tiebreaker I would've voted Ura there if there really was a vote nullify used, because that'd be saving Ura, which would imply Ura was sided with the player who had the vote nullify.

 

[Ura]

Currently in the process of making a big TL:DR post. Stay tuned folks.

 

[Deleted member]

Ok, some things

1. We all know at least one Mafioso was on Ura's wagon. I know I'm not a suspect to myself but I doubt this means much to the rest of you so I ask #HBC | Red Ryu Opossum out of all the players who voted Ura, who are you most suspicious about?
2. ShadowTheHedgehogZ now's the time to start talking, no more inactivity
3. I'm pretty sure Pokechu is Town. I thought I was sure on Uni being too but after his weird vote change to Ura, I'm not so sure anymore. I'm also on the fence regarding Bardull
4. If we don't get any suspects, we really should start getting the inactives out before anyone else. Their lack of voting could lead to uncomfortable LyLo situations, even if they're Town

Currently in the process of making a big TL:DR post. Stay tuned folks.

I don't think you know what TL;DR means

 

[Ura]

I don't think you know what TL;DR means

Bruh I was joking with the TL:DR comment because of the post's size lol.

 

[Pokechu]

Currently in the process of making a big TL:DR post. Stay tuned folks.

If it's against me or Shish I honestly think you're wasting your breath

I personally have been reading Shish as town after I realized I misread some of his posts, and I have to agree with Ryu/Barney when they said Shish's abrasiveness doesn't seem mafia.

And IDK why you think I personally gunned you down and tried to get you lynched when I never even voted for you. I don't recall even ever pointing fingers at you? After the lie detect I said "LOL imagine if we lynch Ura and he's scum" but that was a joke because if that were the case, we'd know two mafioso; you and Spak. That's why I found it funny, 2/3 Mafia out D1.

You even said last day phase that regardless of Shish and I's alignments, you want to see us die. That shows that your bias is in play, and I'm not sure that's giving your argument any credit.

 

[Ura]

If it's against me or Shish I honestly think you're wasting your breath

I personally have been reading Shish as town after I realized I misread some of his posts, and I have to agree with Ryu/Barney when they said Shish's abrasiveness doesn't seem mafia.

And IDK why you think I personally gunned you down and tried to get you lynched when I never even voted for you. I don't recall even ever pointing fingers at you? After the lie detect I said "LOL imagine if we lynch Ura and he's scum" but that was a joke because if that were the case, we'd know two mafioso; you and Spak. That's why I found it funny, 2/3 Mafia out D1.

You even said last day phase that regardless of Shish and I's alignments, you want to see us die. That shows that your bias is in play, and I'm not sure that's giving your argument any credit.

Rest assured, i'm not pursuing a revenge lynch against you or Shish.

I'm examining a lot of different users here.

 

[Deleted member]

Bruh I was joking with the TL:DR comment because of the post's size lol.

So was I

 

[Deleted member]

I almost forgot you two were playing
Jojalole Moydow
Give me your reads. Who do you think is scum from the Ura wagon?

 

[Pokechu]

Uni was wack, he popped his vote in on Ura for "pressure" but he never responded once things got lit and Ura realized his wagon, Uni never defended his vote

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Uni was wack, he popped his vote in on Ura for "pressure" but he never responded once things got lit and Ura realized his wagon, Uni never defended his vote

I was busy, dammit.

The second I managed to have time to show up, phase was over

 

[Pokechu]

I was busy, dammit.

The second I managed to have time to show up, phase was over

I just think that it might not have been the best thing to vote Ura (just for pressure) if Shish was already getting him squared away.

You also did vote him right after Barney and Opo did.... so Ura already had enough pressure.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Was planning to take it off after he replied, but life decided to be a *****.

Maybe I should just never vote since there's always a chance I'll miss too much stuff?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

...Nah. That wouldn't be helpful at all.

But I'll avoid pressure votes for the sole sake of pressure for sure.

 

[Deleted member]

I was busy, dammit.

The second I managed to have time to show up, phase was over

You were pretty active on that RP thread until about 11AM or so on my timezone(for reference, the Day ended at 1PM for me).
Yet you voted for Ura at almost 10AM and then left until after the Day had ended

 

[Ura]

First off, I should apologize for my rude behavior towards the end of Day 1. TBH, I was really losing it there and I wanted to do anything in my power to prove to you guys that I was indeed a townie. Unfortunately, Spak made some kind of error and had to be hostkilled....

but...

The mislynch against; thank goodness was overturned. And now people now for a fact that i'm a confirmed townie. So now any notion of "Ura said this so he's scum!" can thankfully be thrown out the window.

Now, on to business...

Opossum #HBC | Red Ryu BarDulL @Shishœ The Stoopid Unikorn

I can say without a shadow of a doubt (heh shadow see what I did there?) that at least one of you 5 is a mafia member. One of you had to see it as beneficial for throwing me under the bus and getting Town to mislynch me. And you guys would have actually succeeded in doing so had it not been for the Spak incident. And so for this Day Phase, my vote will go to one of you guys.

Looking back on the Day 1, these were your "reasons" of voting for me.

@Shishœ Wanted me lynched for believing that me being confused about the # of Mafia members was grounds for my lynch and pointed to other claims I made such as my early link with him and Uni despite me saying that it held little to no weight. Shish kept going at it with me in the phase and really he was the driving force behind my lynch (later to be joined by Pokechu). Of course Shish in the previous phase was beefing with a lot of people so we need to consider that as well.

The Stoopid Unikorn Wanted me lynched because....reasons? Well him and Opo had similar "mindsets" of wanting to put pressure on me which I guess is a valid play. But the fact that he sorta just threw his vote in so casually and then literally took off in the thread not to show up despite being called on is sketchy AF. I want Uni to tell us why he did what he did and didn't bother showing up for the remainder of that phase where his presence could have been very beneficial. Really sketch.

Opossum Speaking of Opo, he was pretty damn sketch himself last Day Phase. He started out by outing either me or Shish as a potential Mafia member which I guess isn't too offensive in itself. What I do find to be really sketchy was him asking me right at the end for me to give out my entire roleclaim which I did mind you and then he proceeded to do nothing. Like dude, why even bother asking me that question if you wanted me lynched anyways? It just came off as weird and awkward what you ended up doing. I need to consider you dude.

BarDulL Was similar to Shish (other than not aggressively going after me) in that he wanted me gone because of the things I said about raising concerns about the # of Mafia members and a double-voter at play (in addition to the Uni-Shish link I made which I addressed above). All of which were genuine concerns mind you and things I wanted Town to take in to consideration but somehow all of that came and bit me in the ass and almost led to me being gone. And much like Uni after him, he voted and took off for the rest of the phase. Granted I understand work and personal lives are reasons to not be around but I still don't like how he just took off before I could question him.

#HBC | Red Ryu Is probably one of the worst offenders here because he literally put a vote on me for no reason and then immediately accused me of having an "indy" role because of me stating my win condition of still winning regardless of my death so as long as Mafia is defeated. His reasoning? "I lynch all indies lol!". And much like Uni and Bar, he took off without wanting to say anything else. Like seriously people what's with your tendency to vote and then to call it a day without staying and defending you position? As pissed as I was at Shish and Chu, at least they had the decency to back up their positions even though I didn't agree with them. Your pretty sketch Red.

So yeah these are the "profiles" if you will for my potential suspects. Pokechu is someone I also have suspicions of but not to the level of these 5. For this phase, I want one of these 5 guys gone.

 

[Pokechu]

I do find Red Ryu's vote on Ura strange, I even told him how it's not different from the wording in the sample Role PM but he didn't budge

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

You were pretty active on that RP thread until about 11AM or so on my timezone(for reference, the Day ended at 1PM for me).
Yet you voted for Ura at almost 10AM and then left until after the Day had ended

Ura blew up a bit after I left for work, which was when I stopped being active.

didn't bother showing up for the remainder of that phase where his presence could have been very beneficial.

I've said it since before the game began (since Bad Idea Mafia ended, actually) that life was getting shaky. Don't use my lack of consistent presence as "proof"

Granted I understand work and personal lives are reasons to not be around

You understand it, yet it's the primary reason between not one, not two, but THREE of your suspects.

The only reason I can't see this as scummy is because you're already a confirmed townie.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

You understand it, yet it's the primary reason between not one, not two, but THREE of your suspects.

Actually, nevermind, wasn't a primary reason, but it still felt notable enough that you had to write it down.

 

[Ura]

Actually, nevermind, wasn't a primary reason, but it still felt notable enough that you had to write it down.

The difference was that you were around at the end of the last phase and didn't bother to show up.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The difference was that you were around at the end of the last phase and didn't bother to show up.

"didn't bother"

You're understanding people can have busy lives, yet somehow, me having a busy life doesn't seem to be a possibility if your wording is anything to go by, despite the fact that I literally complained about how ****ty my Friday would be in the NZ social during the only break I got in said shift.

 

[Ura]

"didn't bother"

You're understanding people can have busy lives, yet somehow, me having a busy life doesn't seem to be a possibility if your wording is anything to go by, despite the fact that I literally complained about how ****ty my Friday would be in the NZ social during the only break I got in said shift.

Well looking back on your post history you were around for multiple hours. Enough to take in to consideration what was going on.

That being said, I don't know the full situation of your life and I don't want to make any false claims. So in that regard i'll take you at your word. You were pretty much inactive between when I posted at 10AM-ish to the 12PM deadline.

...But like I said your pressure voting seemed kinda off to me. Still suspicious of you though it's prob the least offensive of what I saw from the aforementioned other members.

 

[Pokechu]

"didn't bother"

You're understanding people can have busy lives, yet somehow, me having a busy life doesn't seem to be a possibility if your wording is anything to go by, despite the fact that I literally complained about how ****ty my Friday would be in the NZ social during the only break I got in said shift.

Ura's point was that you were posting in another thread on the forum, but you didn't come back in this thread to unvote Ura.

Which, I do have to admit, is a little sketch imo

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ura is Town.

Vote: Pokechu

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Ura is Town.

I mean, this really isn't anything new.

Some goofing on Spak's part already proved it at the end of day.

 

[Pokechu]

Ura is Town.

Vote: Pokechu

You mind stating any reasoning? I never said Ura wasn't town, that's pretty obvious lol

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

#HBC | Red Ryu Is probably one of the worst offenders here because he literally put a vote on me for no reason and then immediately accused me of having an "indy" role because of me stating my win condition of still winning regardless of my death so as long as Mafia is defeated. His reasoning? "I lynch all indies lol!". And much like Uni and Bar, he took off without wanting to say anything else. Like seriously people what's with your tendency to vote and then to call it a day without staying and defending you position? As pissed as I was at Shish and Chu, at least they had the decency to back up their positions even though I didn't agree with them. Your pretty sketch Red.

So yeah these are the "profiles" if you will for my potential suspects. Pokechu is someone I also have suspicions of but not to the level of these 5. For this phase, I want one of these 5 guys gone.

There wasn't an alterrnative and we hit the deadline, would have rather lynched Shadow over you if I was the only voter with a gun.

I mean, this really isn't anything new.

Some goofing on Spak's part already proved it at the end of day.

This is why he is town, his reaction to almost dying was too genuine. Mod hiccup helped him a lot here.

 

[Opossum]

Ok, some things

1. We all know at least one Mafioso was on Ura's wagon. I know I'm not a suspect to myself but I doubt this means much to the rest of you so I ask #HBC | Red Ryu Opossum out of all the players who voted Ura, who are you most suspicious about?
2. ShadowTheHedgehogZ now's the time to start talking, no more inactivity
3. I'm pretty sure Pokechu is Town. I thought I was sure on Uni being too but after his weird vote change to Ura, I'm not so sure anymore. I'm also on the fence regarding Bardull
4. If we don't get any suspects, we really should start getting the inactives out before anyone else. Their lack of voting could lead to uncomfortable LyLo situations, even if they're Town

I don't think you know what TL;DR means

Mentioned this yesterday, but Stoopid. He voted immediately after I did and didn't give a reason either. Very suspicious IMO.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You mind stating any reasoning? I never said Ura wasn't town, that's pretty obvious lol

I said this yesterday your voting was incredibly opportunistic.

Even one of Uni/Shish would be better to lynch because we could go back through their argument, even if it is TvT. I wouldn't be surprised if both are townies but I still think it'd be a better choice than lynching Ura.

Sorry Ura, there's a reason I haven't placed my vote on you. You seem fine in my book.

This post is incredibly disgusting and slimy.

You very well thought both slots were town but were A-ok with lynching them anyways just cause even though Shadow had a good push on him. You were more interested in getting a lynch between two town slots.

 

[Ura]

There wasn't an alterrnative and we hit the deadline, would have rather lynched Shadow over you if I was the only voter with a gun.

There was dude. You could have taken your vote off me and placed it on Shadow if that were the case. Your post was done in a way to blatantly incriminate me as well.

 

[Pokechu]

I said this yesterday your voting was incredibly opportunistic.



This post is incredibly disgusting and slimy.

You very well thought both slots were town but were A-ok with lynching them anyways just cause even though Shadow had a good push on him. You were more interested in getting a lynch between two town slots.

I explained that yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if it was TvT because generally chances are in your favor to be town as there's only like 3 mafia slots, and I also added on that I wouldn't be surprised if one flipped mafia.

The reason I wanted to stick between Uni/Shish was that their flip would have more information. At that time I wasn't fully caught up on the thread so I didn't think lynching Ura would give us any connections.

 

[Ura]

Mentioned this yesterday, but Stoopid. He voted immediately after I did and didn't give a reason either. Very suspicious IMO.

Well yeah that's without question but did you read the portion addressed at you? I want to hear from you.

 

[Pokechu]

With Shadow, he's inactive and has been inactive. Now that he's stayed inactive, yeah, I'd vote for him, I was hoping he'd get back on the forum, but back on D1 I felt it was too early because we couldn't create a read on him at all.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

There was dude. You could have taken your vote off me and placed it on Shadow if that were the case. Your post was done in a way to blatantly incriminate me as well.

Not at the time, everyone was jumping ship

 

[Deleted member]

Opossum
Why did you lie about being vanilla?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I explained that yesterday, I wouldn't be surprised if it was TvT because generally chances are in your favor to be town as there's only like 3 mafia slots, and I also added on that I wouldn't be surprised if one flipped mafia.

The reason I wanted to stick between Uni/Shish was that their flip would have more information. At that time I wasn't fully caught up on the thread so I didn't think lynching Ura would give us any connections.

I don’t see this mindset making sense.

Yes they give info but if you know or think the slot is torn why would you stick to lynching them? And if so what exactly do you gain on this? Or are you trying to set up dominos.

 

[Ura]

Not at the time, everyone was jumping ship

Weren't you there at the end of the phase?

If you felt that it could have been done I don't see why not instead of joining the mob.

Opossum
Why did you lie about being vanilla?

He lied?

 

[Opossum]

Opossum
Why did you lie about being vanilla?

Except I didn't lie. My role makes it a point to go out of the way to call me vanilla.

 

[Opossum]

First off, I should apologize for my rude behavior towards the end of Day 1. TBH, I was really losing it there and I wanted to do anything in my power to prove to you guys that I was indeed a townie. Unfortunately, Spak made some kind of error and had to be hostkilled....

but...

The mislynch against; thank goodness was overturned. And now people now for a fact that i'm a confirmed townie. So now any notion of "Ura said this so he's scum!" can thankfully be thrown out the window.

Now, on to business...

Opossum #HBC | Red Ryu BarDulL @Shishœ The Stoopid Unikorn

I can say without a shadow of a doubt (heh shadow see what I did there?) that at least one of you 5 is a mafia member. One of you had to see it as beneficial for throwing me under the bus and getting Town to mislynch me. And you guys would have actually succeeded in doing so had it not been for the Spak incident. And so for this Day Phase, my vote will go to one of you guys.

Looking back on the Day 1, these were your "reasons" of voting for me.

@Shishœ Wanted me lynched for believing that me being confused about the # of Mafia members was grounds for my lynch and pointed to other claims I made such as my early link with him and Uni despite me saying that it held little to no weight. Shish kept going at it with me in the phase and really he was the driving force behind my lynch (later to be joined by Pokechu). Of course Shish in the previous phase was beefing with a lot of people so we need to consider that as well.

The Stoopid Unikorn Wanted me lynched because....reasons? Well him and Opo had similar "mindsets" of wanting to put pressure on me which I guess is a valid play. But the fact that he sorta just threw his vote in so casually and then literally took off in the thread not to show up despite being called on is sketchy AF. I want Uni to tell us why he did what he did and didn't bother showing up for the remainder of that phase where his presence could have been very beneficial. Really sketch.

Opossum Speaking of Opo, he was pretty damn sketch himself last Day Phase. He started out by outing either me or Shish as a potential Mafia member which I guess isn't too offensive in itself. What I do find to be really sketchy was him asking me right at the end for me to give out my entire roleclaim which I did mind you and then he proceeded to do nothing. Like dude, why even bother asking me that question if you wanted me lynched anyways? It just came off as weird and awkward what you ended up doing. I need to consider you dude.

BarDulL Was similar to Shish (other than not aggressively going after me) in that he wanted me gone because of the things I said about raising concerns about the # of Mafia members and a double-voter at play (in addition to the Uni-Shish link I made which I addressed above). All of which were genuine concerns mind you and things I wanted Town to take in to consideration but somehow all of that came and bit me in the *** and almost led to me being gone. And much like Uni after him, he voted and took off for the rest of the phase. Granted I understand work and personal lives are reasons to not be around but I still don't like how he just took off before I could question him.

#HBC | Red Ryu Is probably one of the worst offenders here because he literally put a vote on me for no reason and then immediately accused me of having an "indy" role because of me stating my win condition of still winning regardless of my death so as long as Mafia is defeated. His reasoning? "I lynch all indies lol!". And much like Uni and Bar, he took off without wanting to say anything else. Like seriously people what's with your tendency to vote and then to call it a day without staying and defending you position? As pissed as I was at Shish and Chu, at least they had the decency to back up their positions even though I didn't agree with them. Your pretty sketch Red.

So yeah these are the "profiles" if you will for my potential suspects. Pokechu is someone I also have suspicions of but not to the level of these 5. For this phase, I want one of these 5 guys gone.

Honestly I had to go eat lunch lol.

 

[Ura]

Whoa whoa whoa!

What the hell did I just miss?

 

[Ura]

Honestly I had to go eat lunch lol.

...Seriously dude? That's your excuse?

....Like you couldn't wait 5 minutes to wait for the phase end to do whatever it is you needed to do?