Fire Emblem 7 Mafia Poisoned Mutton Edition - Mafia Wins.

[Pokechu]

Opinions can be true from one's perspective; everything stated in this, to Ura's knowledge, is apparently true.

That's not how a Lie Detector works.

It's not opinionated. It's fact. If a mafioso said, "I'm clean!", that wouldn't come up "true" because the mafioso genuinely thinks that they're doing a good job of blending in with the town.

It's factbased, so if the mafioso said "I'm clean!", then the Lie Detector would find that "false" because it uses in-game jargon (clean, suspicious), and it is a mafioso, so they come up suspicious.

 

[Spak]

That's not how a Lie Detector works.

It's not opinionated. It's fact. If a mafioso said, "I'm clean!", that wouldn't come up "true" because the mafioso genuinely thinks that they're doing a good job of blending in with the town.

It's factbased, so if the mafioso said "I'm clean!", then the Lie Detector would find that "false" because it uses in-game jargon (clean, suspicious), and it is a mafioso, so they come up suspicious.

Then all of the facts are true, and the opinions are ignored. Either way, his wincon is with town.

 

[Pokechu]

CHU HOW STUPID COULD YOU POSSIBLY BE? LIKE REALLY THIS MIGHT BE THE DUMBEST **** I'VE EVER SEEN IN A GAME OF MAFIA EVER.

I'm suspicious of Spak, because anyone can claim to be a Lie Detector. Doesn't mean they actually are.

Why believe Spak w/o any evidence?

So there's no reason for me to think you're cleared.

 

[Spak]

That's not how a Lie Detector works.

It's not opinionated. It's fact. If a mafioso said, "I'm clean!", that wouldn't come up "true" because the mafioso genuinely thinks that they're doing a good job of blending in with the town.

It's factbased, so if the mafioso said "I'm clean!", then the Lie Detector would find that "false" because it uses in-game jargon (clean, suspicious), and it is a mafioso, so they come up suspicious.

Also, I couldn't have possibly done an "I'm clean!" post because I wasn't allowed to use an "I'm Mafia" or "I'm Town" post; that's why I had to proxy to another post (which Ura happened to mislink, but the post he linked still had his wincon).

 

[Opossum]

Why should I believe he's a lie detector? Especially after the town reprimanded Shiny for coming out as the Jailer on day one.


Waaaaay too convenient.

 

[Spak]

I'm suspicious of Spak, because anyone can claim to be a Lie Detector. Doesn't mean they actually are.

Why believe Spak w/o any evidence?

So there's no reason for me to think you're cleared.

Because this would be the stupidist Mafia gambit ever. If either one of us is killed, there goes probably half (if not more) of the Mafia. Forced association between members loses games.

 

[Pokechu]

Also, I couldn't have possibly done an "I'm clean!" post because I wasn't allowed to use an "I'm Mafia" or "I'm Town" post; that's why I had to proxy to another post (which Ura happened to mislink, but the post he linked still had his wincon).

But that wouldn't automatically render the target town or mafia. There still would be the godfather, a mafioso who comes up clean, so the post should still be applicable to your Lie Detecting.

 

[Pokechu]

Because this would be the stupidist Mafia gambit ever. If either one of us is killed, there goes probably half (if not more) of the Mafia. Forced association between members loses games.

Who said you and Ura had to be the same alignment? You could be scum and Ura could be town.

 

[Ura]

Spak
The "evidence" itself is incredibly suspicious so sue me for taking it skeptically.
And I'd have my vote changed if it wasn't for the fact it'd most likely lead to Shadow's lynch, which I very much do not think is a good idea.

Shish you're literally pointing fingers at everyone to prove your point. And now you and Chu wan't to downplay Spak as much as you can so you can go about your agenda of frantically pursuing me.

You also think that not voting for a guy who's essentially been MIA is a good idea but somehow getting rid of me is a perfectly fine idea based on your straw graspy bull**** and having a lie detector prove you wrong right in front of your face.

Why should I believe he's a lie detector? Especially after the town reprimanded Shiny for coming out as the Jailer on day one.


Waaaaay too convenient.

Really Opo? You to? What the literal **** man?

He's proving my role because everyone wanted to jump on my demise for no ****ing reason. And now that he does do it everyone somehow thinks me and him are scum buddies looking out for each other.

I just...I just don't ****ing know what to say about this. I want to smash my head against the wall repeatedly for this insanity.

 

[Jojalole]

Yeah, I also noticed the thing Pokechu pointed out about the message that was "lie detected" now that I was re-reading, but he did state that his win condition on that message. Spak's reaction to having "lie detected" the wrong message was genuine, and honeslty if both were mafia I'm pretty sure this "fake lie detector to save my teammate" would have been prepared much harder. Also it has to be said that it was stupidly convinient that Ura asked for lie detector and just so happened we had one. But either way.

Vote: ShadowtheHedgehogZ

Spak I still find your claim a bit ridiculous in a game with vanilla townies, but I'll play along for now. I don't like that you outed yourself as PR and also said that you have even more tricks under your sleeve.

 

[Ura]

Who said you and Ura had to be the same alignment? You could be scum and Ura could be town.

AND YET YOU STILL CHOOSE TO FRANTICALLY GO AFTER ME?

CHU WHAT THE BLOODY HELL MAN? ****ING ****!

 

[Pokechu]

this situation sucks because unless we lynch spak we won't know for sure if ura is confirmed town or not

if we lynch ura, there's still the possibility of a scum!spak

hmmm

 

[Ura]

Sorry for CAPS RAGE but i'm losing my mind here. This is seriously not making me want to play this game anymore.

 

[Opossum]

Shish you're literally pointing fingers at everyone to prove your point. And now you and Chu wan't to downplay Spak as much as you can so you can go about your agenda of frantically pursuing me.

You also think that not voting for a guy who's essentially been MIA is a good idea but somehow getting rid of me is a perfectly fine idea based on your straw graspy bull**** and having a lie detector prove you wrong right in front of your face.

Really Opo? You to? What the literal **** man?

He's proving my role because everyone wanted to jump on my demise for no ****ing reason. And now that he does do it everyone somehow thinks me and him are scum buddies looking out for each other.

I just...I just don't ****ing know what to say about this. I want to smash my head against the wall repeatedly for this insanity.

What proof? Show me any tangible proof that he's a lie detector.

You asked for a lie detector, which seems like a stretch considering this is a mostly vanilla game and lie detectors in our old games never had day confirmation.

A supposed lie detector responds immediately and can conveniently check duri the day, despite us reprimanding Shiny for claiming Jailer openly.

And conveniently, he states you aren't lying.



It doesn't add up, Ura.

 

[Ura]

Also it has to be said that it was stupidly convinient that Ura asked for lie detector and just so happened we had one. But either way.

I would have never asked for this **** if these users didn't start a gangpile on me bsaed on Shish's BS attempts at incriminating me.

Legit. This never had to happen. And it makes me furious that I had to pursue that avenue just to get people off my backs only for them to create more straw graspy BS to further incriminate me.

 

[Spak]

But that wouldn't automatically render the target town or mafia. There still would be the godfather, a mafioso who comes up clean, so the post should still be applicable to your Lie Detecting.

But Godfather doesn't have a town wincon.

Spak Spak I still find your claim a bit ridiculous in a game with vanilla townies, but I'll play along for now. I don't like that you outed yourself as PR and also said that you have even more tricks under your sleeve.

If I didn't, people would be on my case later days about "I thought you were a lie detector, kill this man!" Since it's a lie detector, Ura's alignment doesn't actually dictate my own (since I theoretically could just be scum and "saving" a town slot), so claiming multiple roles would make people scratch their heads. I understand the skepticism, but it's out of self-preservation.

 

[Opossum]

Speak, did you claim a character? I can't remember.

 

[Pokechu]

But Godfather doesn't have a town wincon.

That was in response to you saying you couldn't check an "I'm clean!" post.

 

[Spak]

But honestly, I'm still not even sure what the case against Ura is. It seems like a third the game is just tunneling him because either someone put a vote on him and everyone else was like "sure". I get that he's kind of raging right now, but he's just frustrated that nobody is believing him.

 

[Opossum]

Spak


****ing autocorrect

 

[Ura]

What proof? Show me any tangible proof that he's a lie detector.

You asked for a lie detector, which seems like a stretch considering this is a mostly vanilla game and lie detectors in our old games never had day confirmation.

A supposed lie detector responds immediately and can conveniently check duri the day, despite us reprimanding Shiny for claiming Jailer openly.

And conveniently, he states you aren't lying.



It doesn't add up, Ura.

Opo...

The reason why I asked for this in the first place as you've seen in my above post is that I had zero way of proving myself to a bloodthirsty Town that wants me dead based on conjecture BS. Even after I went out my way to prove myself, they still choose to go after me. What ****ing sense does this make to you man?

If Spak hadn't come true for me Town would have went about with their bloodthirsty lynch on me and I wouldn't have any means to defend myself. Like legit I have no allies in this fight which is the reason why I asked for literally every means of defense to prove myself.

I asked for...

- A track to track me.
- A cop to check me.
- A lie detector to prove me.

Spak happened to have one of those roles and I came out as true based on the steps he asked me to take.

What exactly doesn't add up to you Opo? For real?

 

[Ura]

The Stoopid Unikorn BarDulL

I need you guys to come in here. Do you still think i'm lynch worthy after all this?

 

[Pokechu]

chugga chugga chugga chugga

choo choo

 

[Spak]

Speak, did you claim a character? I can't remember.

No, because that could hint to my exact role. All people know is that I have more tricks up my sleeve and I'm a lie detector.

 

[Opossum]

Opo...

The reason why I asked for this in the first place as you've seen in my above post is that I had zero way of proving myself to a bloodthirsty Town that wants me dead based on conjecture BS. Even after I went out my way to prove myself, they still choose to go after me. What ****ing sense does this make to you man?

If Spak hadn't come true for me Town would have went about with their bloodthirsty lynch on me and I wouldn't have any means to defend myself. Like legit I have no allies in this fight which is the reason why I asked for literally every means of defense to prove myself.

I asked for...

- A track to track me.
- A cop to check me.
- A lie detector to prove me.

Spak happened to have one of those roles and I came out as true based on the steps he asked me to take.

What exactly doesn't add up to you Opo? For real?

Seven minutes left until the lynch. Care to give your full role claim one last time?

 

[Ura]

And if #HBC | Red Ryu is here have you seen what's been going on?

Please don't use now as a time to be inactive man.

 

[Ura]

Seven minutes left until the lynch. Care to give your full role claim one last time?

Lyndis

Vanilla Townie

I win as long as Mafia is defeated whether I live or die.

 

[Ura]

Also guys if I do get lynched and inevitably flip as Town, go after Pokechu and Shish and don't let them say anything otherwise.

Vote their asses out of the game and show them no mercy for going about their bloodthirsty lynch. Legit they clearly have an agenda here and they deserve to get booted out for their ****.

 

[Deleted member]

No, because that could hint to my exact role. All people know is that I have more tricks up my sleeve and I'm a lie detector.

You've already outed yourself as JOAT dude

 

[Pokechu]

Also guys if I do get lynched and inevitably flip as Town, go after Pokechu and Shish and don't let them say anything otherwise.

Vote their ***** out of the game and show them no mercy for going about their bloodthirsty lynch. Legit they clearly have an agenda here and they deserve to get booted out for their ****.

this reads so much like

"I'm mad that they got even the SMALLEST bit of suspicious of the whole Lie Detect, despite how convenient it was!! They killed me, kill them back!!!!"

 

[Jojalole]

I'll guess that Spak is Merlinus or some ****, that's why he has so much different stuff. The only thing we will get about Ura's lynch if he's town will be the vote bandwagon that he had, there's obviously some scum in there. Either way, not much to be said, let's see the results.

 

[Pokechu]

day over??

 

[Spak]

Whelp, this'll be interesting. See y'all tomorrow.

 

[Ura]

this reads so much like

"I'm mad that they got even the SMALLEST bit of suspicious of the whole Lie Detect, despite how convenient it was!! They killed me, kill them back!!!!"

No it's because you two are so full of **** and it shows so much. After having everything point against what you've been saying you still pursued the agenda of getting rid of me.

Please everyone. Vote Shish and Chu out. They were on the same page of pursuing an agenda to get rid of me and now i'm done because of them.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Day 1 Over Results shortly

 

[Ura]

Legit I ****ing hate both of your guts now. I want to see you two lose in the worst way possible, town or not.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Legit I ****ing hate both of your guts now. I want to see you two lose in the worst way possible, town or not.

Ura, please keep it civil, this is just a game, afterall.

 

[Pokechu]

No it's because you two are so full of **** and it shows so much. After having everything point against what you've been saying you still pursued the agenda of getting rid of me.

Please everyone. Vote Shish and Chu out. They were on the same page of pursuing an agenda to get rid of me and now i'm done because of them.

lol how are we full of **** when we were questioning an obviously-sketch situation

I wasn't even saying "golleeee Ura looks more sketch than ever!!!", I was saying that "yo this lie detect doesn't seem right, this seems off, not sure I believe it"

 

[Spak]

 

[Ura]

Ura, please keep it civil, this is just a game, afterall.

I don't ****ing appreciate the intense witch hunting these two tried to do on me and over the most frivolous **** at that as well.

Not only that but they managed to get the rest of Town on their side to pursue an agenda of taking me down.

Please don't buy their BS people.

lol how are we full of **** when we were questioning an obviously-sketch situation

I wasn't even saying "golleeee Ura looks more sketch than ever!!!", I was saying that "yo this lie detect doesn't seem right, this seems off, not sure I believe it"

A sketch situation that was me acting because I had no defense and literally asking for any kind of way to prove myself? You really do lack any sort of thinking capacity.

Whatever. This day will end and everyone will see how much of a moron you and Shish are.