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Fire and Lightning Mafia - Game Over!!!
- Thread starter #HBC | Red Ryu
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It disturbs me to the similar sense of what he did in DuckTales mafia where he completely went against ethics and used something from outside the game to win which is why I am very cautious of trusting his QT to begin with as being real. However, if this is a new style of treachery to manipulate people, I'd have to applaud him. This seems like his sincere thoughts on what is going on by himself. I don't like that he posted it in the game but at least it gives us something to work with while we wait for WL to get here since it has his final thoughts.
Disturbing is a very good word to describe the presence that QT holds.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
I want to know why people hated Kuz after the night phase. What changed between him being uncapped over HipSam and then everyone thinking he's scum the very next day?
I'd follow you onto Circus if you gave me a reason to follow you.
I could convince you of Ryker, but I don't think I want to put in the effort just yet because I am sold on it entirely myself.
I just have a note saying one of Kuzi or Ryker is scum.
I could convince you of Ryker, but I don't think I want to put in the effort just yet because I am sold on it entirely myself.
I just have a note saying one of Kuzi or Ryker is scum.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Raziek if you're gonna be antagonistic I'm gonna treat you like one.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Please and thanks.
@Brosuke:
I'm not being antagonistic, I'm being uncooperative. There's a difference. Besides, it's entirely anti-Town for me to meaninglessly throw a vote on a wagon I currently have no reason to support. You want me on it, sell it to me.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
You've got that promise for tomorrow. I'm just about to hop in the shower and from then on I'll probably just stay on phone while tryna get some sleep in.
Kuzi hate came from his attitude about July's lynch and the possible connection he may have to KevinM for stopping his lynch and also advocating July's lynch in such a spree of getting people onto it where it didn't give her a fair chance at all. His attitude has also been a bit odd with the way he talks to some people in this game as pointed out by myself and Ryker. Ryker has been more of a tunnel head about his lynch whereas I have been entertaining the idea in my head.
Rajam thought about Kuzi being scum but recanted when something else seemed to click in his head.
Only a few people have thought about Kuzi being scum but it's been the more vocal people. I can't really recall why people choose Kuzi over HipSam but I digress.
Rajam thought about Kuzi being scum but recanted when something else seemed to click in his head.
Only a few people have thought about Kuzi being scum but it's been the more vocal people. I can't really recall why people choose Kuzi over HipSam but I digress.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Final scum remains in:
Soup
KevinM
Raziek
jus' sayin'
KevinM
jus' sayin'
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Naw just saying that between those three, it's KeviM
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
God my wording this evening has sucked.
So excuse me for that. I'm just tired.
So excuse me for that. I'm just tired.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Can you elaborate on this? What was his attitude and why was it scummy?
I didn't think Kuzi's case on July was unsound. In hindsight he jumped on a facet of July's play that could be misconstrued as scummy and pushed it, but in context (pre-flip), I'm having a hard time seeing where his attitude was telling.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
No Raz would take up my offer to vote as scum 'cause it allows him to park his vote for free.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
This sounds like you're implying I'm bad at scum.
I don't know about that Bro tbh when dealing with Raz. He's intelligent enough not to make that mistake I'd hope as scum.
For me, Raz, it is moreso that it was between KevinM and July and he decided to push July moreso when Kevin could have been lynched. It deals with connections about why that happened but reading his QT, I see more of him thinking KevinM is town over than what he said in the thread.
That's another reason I disliked his July push. He used what "could have been facted as scummy" when he knows that July was not really scummy at all but it looked more like he chose to view her as scummy more as town. I guess it's me over-estimating him with his ability to read July.
I hope that explains somewhat what I mean.
For me, Raz, it is moreso that it was between KevinM and July and he decided to push July moreso when Kevin could have been lynched. It deals with connections about why that happened but reading his QT, I see more of him thinking KevinM is town over than what he said in the thread.
That's another reason I disliked his July push. He used what "could have been facted as scummy" when he knows that July was not really scummy at all but it looked more like he chose to view her as scummy more as town. I guess it's me over-estimating him with his ability to read July.
I hope that explains somewhat what I mean.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
I was too quick to assume I guess. Never played with Raz in a serious way so yea.
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It's ok Kuz, we understand.
Just get life better and feel free to comeback when your better.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Hey guys I got a ball buster to reveal within an hour or so, but before I go with it you gotta PROMISE me that we are using until the end of December 22nd to let me make my case against Rykerscum.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Oh it's something I KNOW. May not be the same something you may think, but trust me it's good shiz mang. Just be patient mang, I'm gonna take care of other games and make sure I have absolutely nothing else distracting me so I can take a focus on this game.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Okay. Here goes:
I'm mafia. Not only am I mafia, but I'm Fire mafia. Why do I reveal this? Cuz shiz I'm getting incapped cuz god knows Xonar isn't, might as well take somebody down from the other maf while I can. I am MUCH more in favor of town winning than the other mafia, and that's because I feel that if THEY win and I lose, then wtf man... Now, I revealed myself as Fire for another reason on top of that... Kuz is CONFIRM'D TOWN after this post. You ready? Fire mafia targeted Hipster N0, and Ice mafia targeted Kuz N0. So unless you want to believe that Kuz is my scummate, which none of you do because it's not true, he is CONFIRM'D TOWN. Anyway, back to the case against Ryker. Kuz' case against Ryker absolutely holds merit, in that Ryker did what he needed to do in order to gain town points, and disappeared afterward. IT IS NOT A TOWN TELL THAT HE SCUM HUNTED AND PINNED SCUM. He caught me in the scum tell of hating on his scum hunting, he is absolutely correct, and after the game ends you can see where I s*** bricks when he said that. But after he (correctly) scumhunted, he faded into the coasting game, before AND after his V/LA. The fact of the matter is, he's done NOTHING this game except drill on me and Kuz. His suspicion of KevM is totally empty, and probably because it's an easy person to place suspicion on, with him being a popular scum candidate. And his lolread on Circus, the inactive? SHIZ, what the eff is that? His post have been nothing but tunneling me and Kuz, while using that to get by throughout all of the game. If you let him live through toDay, don't. LYNCH HIM. As far as his scummate goes, I wouldn't be surprised if it were any of Circus, Raziek or even maybe even Xonar (but that's probz a reach), and I will make sure I use all of the time I have toDay to work with some of my town reads in order to get this through. BUT WE'RE LYNCHING RYKER.
Yea. Get mindf***ed.
I'm mafia. Not only am I mafia, but I'm Fire mafia. Why do I reveal this? Cuz shiz I'm getting incapped cuz god knows Xonar isn't, might as well take somebody down from the other maf while I can. I am MUCH more in favor of town winning than the other mafia, and that's because I feel that if THEY win and I lose, then wtf man... Now, I revealed myself as Fire for another reason on top of that... Kuz is CONFIRM'D TOWN after this post. You ready? Fire mafia targeted Hipster N0, and Ice mafia targeted Kuz N0. So unless you want to believe that Kuz is my scummate, which none of you do because it's not true, he is CONFIRM'D TOWN. Anyway, back to the case against Ryker. Kuz' case against Ryker absolutely holds merit, in that Ryker did what he needed to do in order to gain town points, and disappeared afterward. IT IS NOT A TOWN TELL THAT HE SCUM HUNTED AND PINNED SCUM. He caught me in the scum tell of hating on his scum hunting, he is absolutely correct, and after the game ends you can see where I s*** bricks when he said that. But after he (correctly) scumhunted, he faded into the coasting game, before AND after his V/LA. The fact of the matter is, he's done NOTHING this game except drill on me and Kuz. His suspicion of KevM is totally empty, and probably because it's an easy person to place suspicion on, with him being a popular scum candidate. And his lolread on Circus, the inactive? SHIZ, what the eff is that? His post have been nothing but tunneling me and Kuz, while using that to get by throughout all of the game. If you let him live through toDay, don't. LYNCH HIM. As far as his scummate goes, I wouldn't be surprised if it were any of Circus, Raziek or even maybe even Xonar (but that's probz a reach), and I will make sure I use all of the time I have toDay to work with some of my town reads in order to get this through. BUT WE'RE LYNCHING RYKER.
Yea. Get mindf***ed.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Well then. This is interesting.
So this is what it feels to be blind-sided again.
Well that's interesting news that you're scum and now Kuzi's slot is cleared possibly if we believe what you are saying to be true.
I need to see Ryker's reaction to this before anything so I'm gonna be back here waiting cuz I think I have a new lead or two.
Well that's interesting news that you're scum and now Kuzi's slot is cleared possibly if we believe what you are saying to be true.
I need to see Ryker's reaction to this before anything so I'm gonna be back here waiting cuz I think I have a new lead or two.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Think about my interaction with Kuz. Would him and I have such a fair amount of constructive interaction had we been on a scum team? Who gives a shiz if you think it's WIFOM, him as scum holds absolutely no credibility now because I'm telling the truth. And you don't need to wait for Ryker's reaction to comment on the shiz that I have on the table bro, so please don't gimme this when I have a town read on you. And it's not fair that you're asking Raziek to explain what he means aside from "interesting" if you don't. So please do. I'm only pestering you because I know you and Xonar will be the ones I can work with the most wrt the rest of the Day.
Well I guess the best way to start this little "helpful" conversation is for you to begin with questions. I have a few on my own but I think it's fair you go first.
Kuzi I said was a possibility. One I'm not looking at but a path that shouldn't be ruled out 100% aight?
Kuzi I said was a possibility. One I'm not looking at but a path that shouldn't be ruled out 100% aight?
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Well consider this, J.
Gord has no reason to do this as Town because if he's wrong he ****s his faction over. So he has to be scum. That we're sure of.
It's whether or not we believe that Ryker is scum that needs to be considered, as well as whether or not we're clearing Kuz. It's dangerous to do so, in my opinion. IUf Gorf is already dead, this is one hell of a gambit.
Gord has no reason to do this as Town because if he's wrong he ****s his faction over. So he has to be scum. That we're sure of.
It's whether or not we believe that Ryker is scum that needs to be considered, as well as whether or not we're clearing Kuz. It's dangerous to do so, in my opinion. IUf Gorf is already dead, this is one hell of a gambit.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
K.
Let's not care that I'm scum for a second. I want you to comment on the little case summary I have on Ryker in that 906 of mine. You thinking it holds merit? Do you think that there's anything particularly wrong within that stance of mine? And to further explain, what do you think of the possibility of Raziek being his scum mate? Not because of his open refusal to go after him (which in and of itself is pre' scummy, but not really an incriminating thing), but also with the fact that he won't give an alignment to him? The fact is that he's just voiced the fact that he's scared of Ryker's reputation, which is a totally bogus thing of him... But he hasn't really voiced an alignment based opinion on em, and if he has it must have been REALLY shallow.
Let's not care that I'm scum for a second. I want you to comment on the little case summary I have on Ryker in that 906 of mine. You thinking it holds merit? Do you think that there's anything particularly wrong within that stance of mine? And to further explain, what do you think of the possibility of Raziek being his scum mate? Not because of his open refusal to go after him (which in and of itself is pre' scummy, but not really an incriminating thing), but also with the fact that he won't give an alignment to him? The fact is that he's just voiced the fact that he's scared of Ryker's reputation, which is a totally bogus thing of him... But he hasn't really voiced an alignment based opinion on em, and if he has it must have been REALLY shallow.
Raziek
Charging Limit All Day
Gorf, I'm fairly certain I've taken this approach to Ryker in most games that I'm in.
Besides, do you REALLY think the stars aligned and Ryker/Raz was a scumteam constructed by god?
Besides, do you REALLY think the stars aligned and Ryker/Raz was a scumteam constructed by god?
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
I'm in no way done with this game mang. I might be scum, but I'm DEFINITELY in favour of town winning than the other mafia winning, so ultimately, at this point, I'm nothing but a help to town.Raziek said:
J, what do you think of Raziek's responses wrt talking about Ryker, in a general sense including what is said in this quote?
Dude hop the f*** off of Ryker's d***, it's seriously pathetic how much you're willing to cajole him just because he's Ryker. If you're town, this is SERIOUSLY stalling your game and you need to find it in you to grow some balls, because you ARE smart, and you DO know how to play this game in a better-than-average manner. But it's not a matter of "this player's better than me" cuz if it was you'd probz have the same tone toward Kuz. But it's not. It's a matter of "this player is Ryker".Raziek said:
The biggest problem with your 906 is the fact that nothing within it is concrete or incriminating about Ryker. I really am trying to figure out how you being mafia equals to Ryker being mafia because quite frankly it doesn't.
However, what you are saying about Kuzi's case is making me what to do a re-read of it and go look at things again.
Also Raz-Ryker connection isn't looking that strong but Raz' posts directed at you as of late isn't doing himself any favors.
However, what you are saying about Kuzi's case is making me what to do a re-read of it and go look at things again.
Also Raz-Ryker connection isn't looking that strong but Raz' posts directed at you as of late isn't doing himself any favors.
Got ninja'd by a question I somewhat answered.
Raz is coming off very weird for me this game. Never have I seen him so apathetic or afraid of a certain player to do anything at all. I don't know whether to mark it as scummy or just the fact that he isn't playing to his best capability right now.
Raz is coming off very weird for me this game. Never have I seen him so apathetic or afraid of a certain player to do anything at all. I don't know whether to mark it as scummy or just the fact that he isn't playing to his best capability right now.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
No, it's not ABSOLUTELY concrete, but that's because it requires critical thinking and looking back and seeing what the **** I'm talking about. Me being mafia =/= Ryker being mafia, Ryker being scummy = Ryker being mafia.J said:
I would very much appreciate that and your opinion of said reread.J said:
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
K .