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I'll add to that:@Handorin @HollowNote Can you two please explain your reasoning beyond "I didn't like it"
Have a hard time deciding which of you two is the worst here.
I think only thing I'd not entirely not agree with you on Dabuz is his 608, especially his reason #2 since that was the post that made me rethink about the vote on Soup. I think I'd agree with that if the wagon soup would have formed outside of RVS, but given the RVS context, that could have been Soup trying to get reads out of MiR. I really don't know what to make of that anymore, caus everyone says that's how Soup reacts regardless of alignment. That's something I didn't consider until I read his post. I am still waiting on BLS to get back to me on the questions I made and elaboration of his read list.Self-reminder to follow up on these.
Dabuz answered in 524. I'm fine with the answer, but it seems somewhat snappy for a rather innocuous question.
I like Kantrip's 549. Very pointed questions to ask. Same with 553.
Garg's 555 on Soup re-directing pressure toward MiR is very on-point. +points for Garg.
Really like Kantrip's self-reflection in 561. Re-evaluating his Gorf stance and not trying to doggedly push it sits well with me. The only thing that stands out....
@Kantrip : Why mention being paranoid about your Gova town read? That seems strange to me, given that I think most people (including myself) are town-reading him.
Like Gorf 579 on Dabuz.
Dabuz 603 is whack. He left out the grand majority of Gova's interaction with MiR over their read on my slot. That interaction (Gova v MiR) is a big part of why I'm town-reading Gova.
Dabuz 608 is garbage. Reason 2 on "Not being able to push while BEING pushed is flat out wrong." 3rd point is not that accurate and relatively anecdotal. I was Town-reading Soup coming out of that initial wagon, and apparently so was Dabuz, but his reasons for doing so don't make sense.
Unsure what to make of MiR's 613. There's a lot of **** that just feels like a shouting contest.
Cool, Gova also covered how Dabuz's 603 was whack.
Like MiR's 627.
Alright. Don't like Dabuz's posts that I've read so far. MiR v BLS reads to me (as I think..... you put it?) like married couple bickering. Which I expected, because Ryker and Laundry are at each other's throats, when otherwise they're normally in the same slot. I do agree with Gorf, yes.
Feeling moderately okay with Toed after 657.
Stopping here for now, supper time.
This topic's played out. Raz clarified on the actions after we made our point, only before that we had an issue with his early game. Everything after was just clarification of why we disliked him in the first place.
How about no.
You're dodging the question. Reply.
I agree in that he mainly makes observations, what do you make of that?
I am sure that was Gorf asking Dabuz, not Gova. Sinceit is brought up now he may as well reply though.
How is this indicative of alignment? Explain like I'm five.
This.
are you squidding me
I think they're funny rather than annoying but okay.
#HBC | Red Ryu
Fandangox
oh wow thats a misread again.
There's absolutely no reason to like Handorin either. All of this post feels incredibly arbitrary and both your vote and Hando's seems incredibly opportunistic at the moment, given the time they came and the way they came. There's not much justification for anything and it all feels whack.
Next time, just try to use the collapse thing doe. It's just annoying to have it take up like my whole screen
Its alright no need to apologize. like I get that, sometimes you just gotta follow your gut, but I don't think mafia is one of those times unless you are prepared to really dig into that gut feeling. Remember that part of the game is to put our thoughts out there so other players can evaluate them and see if they agree or disagree. I guess it just sort of annoys me when people make comments on gut feelings, and when people ask them to please elaborate on them they obviously can't because well, gut feelings.@
What if I don't wanna drink anymore for a little bit lol? Will it bug you if I said that I cannot really find where I made such connections? It was kinda like Potassium's reads in the subtle manner that they were defending each other through the soup scum wagon. Truthfully could be just simple coincidence that I may have put on a pedestal while I had my tasty beers. Feel like I may have to bust out my old AP English stuffs so I can remember diction and tone lol. Sorry dude.
I am still being cautious on them. I don't feel as strongly anymore about my vote on Soup, because of the multiple points people have brought up. Like on Soup's play my only gripe is still that he tried to deflect the heat from him, but considering the phase of the game where his wagon formed, I don't know if that's the best way to tackle a case on him on that.
Ey, man.
Welp, in my case....Beer feelings. I know what ya mean man.
Didn't like what? Be more specific.@Handorin @
Have a hard time deciding which of you two is the worst here.
Why did you dedicate so much time to it then?
Why are you trying to discredit the wagon? Feeling shaky?
I believe this is an OMGUS(?)
I agree.
I have in my notes that I think the opposite. Based on one of their interactions I think that they are not on the same scumteam. I can dig it up if you wanna see what I was thinking.@
Level with me, for these are musings. On one of my read throughs while I was catching up I've noticed very subtle interaction between Gorf and MiR. There a chance that they could be on the same team? I already know you still have it out for gorf, so maybe while looking over his stuff along with MiR there might be something? Probably just me seeing MiR defend gorf a little from your "gut reads" but it couldn't to look into it perhaps.
Nothing inspired the vote, I just wanted to contribute to the wagon because it looked like it was going to get the most momentum and I thought I may as well help Politoed out with his wagon. The question was unrelated to voting him, and voting him was unrelated to having any read on him. I do believe I have already answered this question.
Since when? You noted the same thing (I'm assuming this is talking about me noting his town slip?
The answer should be obvious. Why are you bulking up your post with rhetorical questions?
I townread him personally for his reaction but the natural conclusion for people to come to without dragging meta into the equation is that it was all null. When soup gets exasperated as scum, it's usually faked to look like he's reacting like he does as town (unless he does it as scum too and it's legit, but I can't remember this being the case). This would mean that he's not actually as flustered as his posts let on, which would mean he would have no reason to replace out because he wouldn't feel actually overwhelmed like his posts imply. Replacing out means to me (this is a bit WIFOM-y so I understand that people may not agree with it) that it's town soup who is actually overwhelmed and not scum soup faking it.
You know what else is awkward? This entire post from you that I've been responding to so far. You're asking a lot of questions and insinuating dislike on a lot of things about my play without taking any stance. Are you scumreading me now or something? What's with the hardcore focus on me? Hell, what's with your current playstyle of building walls against one player at a time instead of focusing on... y'know... the game itself?
Worse by whose standards? Handorin had a reads contradiction that was a complete null tell and Hollow didn't really enter the game at all. Your entrace was gross and littered with safe questions that didn't lead anywhere and that you didn't follow up on and a bunch of you being cautious. Since people pointed out that you were trying not to step on toes, you then started going a little harder on some slots, but that was easy to do because people had pointed out what was scummy about your play so you could change it. As far as I'm concerned, your entrance into the game was the worst.
It should be really apparent why Fanny is townie. Do you not read him as such?
Stances where you can't take the cop-out response of "I'm focusing on this game chunks at a time and I haven't read them yet" which I have used as scum before and which you have used in this game by only having a read on like... 4 players initially. Until I prodded you to reread some people and get more reads for me, but that took me asking rather than you just wanting to do it.
Because if convinced I could see myself going that route. That pool was a pool of people I could see myself lynching based on how the Day progressed, not people I would lynch on the spot.
No Toed was not a townread. "Swap toed for gorf" meant on BLS's lynch pool he had Toed there, I would put Gorf there instead. Didn't mean switch the two reads entirely. Toed was more of a null there if I recall correctly
What?
Are you dense? I was asking Politoed what he thought. That doesn't mean it reflects my own thoughts or opinions.
Because I hadn't read Toed myself and was taking other people's word based on their interpretations. Why is the flip-flopping scummy? If you look and read and have a brain and are town it's quite clear to see my thought process.
I'm pretty sure I already posted this as I reread.
No I don't think you're safe regardless of alignment. Less active maybe, more careful maybe, but when you're town you're not afraid to form actual opinions. Your style of making walls questioning your scumreads rather than just tackling them is so gross.
Could you show some examples of this?
You accidentally tagged a user going by the name of "the". Jajajajajaja
It's a problem I have as town where I constantly get paranoid and doubt things when I look from another angle. Really, I have no problem with Gova and that could have gone better unsaid with some reflecting out-of-thread. That's what the notes thing is supposed to be helping me with but sometimes impulsively posting stuff leaks through.@
maybe i just recruited a new dgames member
