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[Kantrip]

Later though since I do want to get to Gova ASAP.

Hando too please!

 

[Gargaglione]

Later though since I do want to get to Gova ASAP.

He doesn't seem to be here, I think you have the time

 

[Kantrip]

He doesn't seem to be here, I think you have the time

no garg pls i need this

 

[Fandangox]

[quote="Gorf, post: 16265804, member: 146703"
Who cares that he's scum reading Garg? I believe that's genuine. Doesn't detract from his scumminess in this setup.[/quote]

Okay I get it now, you say that it doesn't matter because scum have to hunt scum in this game, but I didn't bring that up because I thought that was a good thing, I just brought it up because Potassium stated he was not stepping on anyone's toes.

 

[Gargaglione]

no garg pls i need this

Vote: dabuz

Blaze

 

[Dabuz]

Oh looky looky, i'm at L-3. Anyway, Gova thoughts inc.

okay now if you had ignored it and then i asked you to analyze it later but you refused because it was pointless

i would call you bad/scummy/synonym

and that was an ELI5: of why i don't like MiR pushing raz

soup wagon is null, someone was gonna get wagoned,

soup emotional arguments could have merit depending on who you ask, i personally dont think they do

yeah, pretty much

i dont know if you were in scott pilgrim mafia but pushing soup for his emotional play is not something im keen on

marshy as scum did the same thing to badwolf who was town

marshy got copped for it that night by J

uh okay? you saying scum can't start the game? just because he got the game started doesnt mean he's town

This how Gova entered the game (unless i missed something in the first few pages) and it was very uncommital. He talked about some stuff on Soup which was already mentioned. He stated his opinion on that whole thing which isn't particularly interesting considering how late it is. There were no new questions for him, he didn't try to go down another avenue. Just a few more posts after this he was talking about Soup and it wasn't going anywhere.

Sadly the quotes disappeared but after this he was part of the whole anti-town vs. scum conversation which while a part of this game, didn't seem relevant in the context of content.

The last thing to note of Gova is that he did push MiR, but his push was on the stuff that was brought up. Like I could go through all his quotes (which would take longer) and explain how that is, but you can read them and see that Gova isn't stating anything which hasn't already been said. I personally don't think he's contributing since he's just reiterating things other players have said.

 

[Dabuz]

Hando too please!

Well at least reading him won't take long.

 

[Dabuz]

Because I haven't even been able to read the game. Class is over in an hour. I'll be able to get to it after that.

Bare in mind I also have to read 8 pages.

Copying and pasting my notes I made. Gova and Gorf keep getting mixed up in my mind.

-Meaningless rvs bandwagon on soup. Common soup hate

-MiR #64, like who cares? Why would anyone ask someone to analyze something they did? It's just begging for attention and trying to force a read to "catch them". Attention worthy, but means nothing by itself currently. Watch trends.

-Agree w/ Potassium. Garg slight town read with that tell of forgetting Gheb was part of IR.

- @Soup such salt, such mafia

- @ Fandangox - any wagon involving soup will get the same reaction, no matter the stage in the game. This is typical soup behavior and not telling at all.

-This game doesn't even know about the #HBC wildcard.

-MiR Caring way to much about that self read question. Like Gova/Raz have said, you can't get anything other than RVS/lolidunno.

-Ignoring is a tell, you don't have to pressure people to get one.

-@Make it Rain!- Like, you're generalizing scum way to much. Scum won't do anything. A player as scum will do something. How will Raz as scum enter the game? Are you that dead set on him not being commital? (aka not working on a random bandwagon?)

@ Gova yo dawg, I was doing law homework (and I know nothing about law), then I went to bed.

-soup being overly emotional again. I wonder if he actually replaces out? Only my read through will tell...

-Dang I missed Seph's banner.

@ #HBC | Red Ryu your Not Voting list is incorrect. Make sure to update it. Props on that vote log though. It's pretty cool.



Very much this.


Scum List:
1. HollowNote- dunno
2. Handorin- Godfather
3. Gargaglione- Scum
4. Make it Rain! (Xonar/WashedLaundry)- Scum
5. Gorf- Town
6. Raziek-Town
7. Inglorious ******* (Gheb_01/JTB)- Sporting cement shoes in the lake
8. dabuz- town
9. soup/BLS- town
10. Fandangox- Scum wildcard
11. Gova- Scum
12. ScaryLB59- Scum Wildcard
13. Potassium- Town

Hando in a nutshell this game. From playing Death Note, I can say lack of activity is not a scum tell. Really, outside of stating a town read on garg then listing him as scum (INB4PeopleSayI'mFocusingOnGargCauseIPointedThisOut), and his little snippets on MiR which are just that, little snippets, there isn't anything to go on.

 

[Dabuz]

EBWOP: i can say his lack of activity

 

[Top Deck BLS]

This has been blown way out of proportion at this point. My read on Raz wasn't based on a damn thing I asked him. I asked him those things to see if he'd at least comment on them but him responding (or in this case not) wouldn't give me a straight-up read, it'd just give me the foundation to start building it on. The entire point of me saying "I didn't like Raz early for these things" was because I wanted to say I didn't like Raz early but his later posts helped me shape up my read. I said at least a few times "His later posts made me feel better about him" but that seemed to get lost in the misfire because people didn't, and still don't, understand the basis of my initial dislike anyway.

I'm not here tonight. I do not exist. I know there are multiple things targeting me in this thread and I'll get to them tomorrow, but I wanted to ask where these multiple times you've said "his later posts made me feel better about him" rather than floating his name out as the fallback option if Soup didn't take. Sounds like a load of **** to me, but I might be wrong. And please, I'll be going back to check when it was said, so please don't post **** from AFTER people started looking at you.

I have two more things from Ryker for ALEX, not for you Ramses.

1.) You're doing the thing I spent forever in Luigi's Mansion telling you not to do. You do it as both alignments and it is doing you as much good here as it does you everywhere else, which is to say makes you an easier target to tear down. Stop doing it. I don't need the assistance if I actually want you gone.
2.) You come out of this thinking Gova is town and that we're scum. You do this saying that we're "a lot of talk and not much action." What in the flying **** do you want me to do? I have literally posted a full reads list that you have yet to voice any disagreement with sans my read on you and your read on me. I have actively pursued a scum read on you and I have open dialogue with half the game actively with the promise of playing with my hand face up that you have no reason to doubt from my actions since. What on God's green Earth does a man have to do in order to be listed as "doing something" that isn't "just talk"? How many other slots would you say have "done something"? Is it only Gova and Gorf? Are YOU all talk since all you've done is defend yourself and push one scum read? What is your problem, man? Let's have this out now rather than later.



Now, I am going to bed. I will get to everything else when I catch up in the thread tomorrow with both heads of this hydra.

 

[Dabuz]

If you didn't get the gist of post 573, this is where I expect you to have at least some response as to why soup "might have developed from a town POV."

In fact, I'm just going to directly ask you:
Could you please explain exactly why you believe soup's actions might have developed from town POV?
Also, please make your response really patronizing and assume I haven't developed intuition on the level of an eight-year-old yet? Just for me? Just so I REALLY get the point.

*Cracks knuckles*

Ah, patronizing. First of all, you suck.

Now let's see, I know you haven't been a part of dgames but like I said, RVS HBC has been a part of games recently like Luigi's mansion where SOkr was quicklynched by two townies, so right of the bat getting all those votes on him considering that happened is scary, as either alignment a player doesn't want to get lynched.

Secondly, if town, Soup can't pressure another slot while having an RVS wagon on him. Flat out he tries to pressure another slot, people think he's ignoring the pressure on himself and use that to push him.

Third, it's very easy (and common) for RVS wagons to be the lynch, not by HBC or quicklynch, but just for "information" as I see in a lot of games. Let me tell you, it sucks to be the RVS wagon who gets lynched for information because no other good lynch was reached.

Fourth, maybe Soup did actually think something about MiR was suspicious and really wanted to get to it.

Fifth, it's what Soup does, period. He's a player who attempted to Day Lynch someone Day 1 in Fire Emblem mafia because a case was being built against him and he didn't want to deal with it despite there being a decent amount of time left in that Day, Also, Soup was town that game. That's just the most recent example I can think of, he's emotional, he gets angry, he gets nervous, he does things that people take as scummy when with him, it's pretty null.

Also, since this definitely wasn't patronizing enough...you suck! (It's easier to be patronizing when i'm not trying to be .-.)

I think I said this before but to reiterate, I think Soup's reactions to the wagon were null for these reason. Sure he could be scum for your reasons, but there's definitely the side of the coin where he could be town for those same actions but under these reasons. Ultimately, I don't see how the differentiation can be made and a solid read can come out of it.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

Never mind I got caught before I went to bed I'll catch up tonight.

Hmm I'll bite.

Why is hollow your #2? Specifically, from your POV why I he above hando/dabuz on the lynch pool?

Out of my 3 null reads I'd rather lynch the one with the least amount content the other two will at least give me enough content that I can read later.

Overall, soups exit of the game have me no breath of confidence in his alignment. People felt his exit was townie but I don't buy it. As far as your approach to the game goes, you seem to check in as better but I don't know whether or not to be more worried of that.

Give me your insight on your MiR read. The read feels conjured from everyone else's read. What is it that rings scummy to you about the slot, in your own words? Iirc it's his stance on Raz' slot, but you went as far as saying that? From my pov, he's just over thinking the Raz beginning of game thing, and plus, he's really only been on that when people interrogated him for it. I wanna see what you see, not others.

Level with me here.

Yes his question was a loaded question but that wasn't our reasoning it was an observation. Gova made it an explanation to Kantrip. Our original issue is how he treated Raz after that question. How he continued to hound him afterwards when Raz gave a legitimate reason for why he didn't answer the question.

I'm legit waiting to see where these multiple posts where he felt better about Raz's later post are in the thread.

Currently I also take issue with how he's approaching our slot. Because he knows Soup pulls this **** as town, and his stated reason for not liking our slot is that we're a lot of talk which is bull ****. We've been doing things since we've joined the game. It's like he's scrambling to keep a scum read on us, either out of paranoia or without a leading suspect to replace it.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

We offered our take on soup sarcastically. We're heading off questions that might come off further. If you need to ask something ask something specific. He is the worst kind of person on as town. He get's unjustifiably frustrated when people get on him for issues that aren't valid. He doesn't want to deal with the pressure and people looking at him sideways which is all the time as town. So he doesn't feel shame replacing out.


In regards to the posts before he replaced out, he deals poorly with pressure. If you legit think there's enough there to lynch on, you can try, but it'll never fly.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

Trying not to step on anyone's toes with one slot as an exception (seriously he's focused on Garg SO MUCH more than anyone else) still doesn't fly with me. And it's not like people are coming to Garg's aid either, that's all between them and it doesn't make me feel any better or worse about dabuns

I'm curious. You said his play mirror's Luigi's Mansion. How does this little stint with Glarg (that one is sticking) match with that assessment? @ #HBC | Gorf you should answer that for me too. Half this hydra was in that game too.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

@ Make it Rain!

What do you make of Gorf and Kantrip's scum read on Dabuz and the reasons they've stated? I could care less about your Dabuz read. I do want it, but this is more important to me.

 

[Make it Rain!]

I skimmed dabuz for most of that game. I will admit to skimming most of dabuz here. Someone please help me on this. That could be you, Sheepses.

The post I made about dabuz was my thoughts on him til that point. The ****ty thing is that I also explained what I dislike about him, which pretty much allowed him to go "oh well ill just fix those things then". I'll do a better read after I get breakfast, just quickly replying to **** now.

Why skim his? You have already stated you have a hard time reading him, so how would skimming his posts help on that?

Probably because Alex thinks it's a crapshoot.

I have two more things from Ryker for ALEX, not for you Ramses.

I have something from Ramses to Ryker, that's you Andrew, enjoy.

2.) You come out of this thinking Gova is town and that we're scum. You do this saying that we're "a lot of talk and not much action." What in the flying **** do you want me to do? I have literally posted a full reads list that you have yet to voice any disagreement with sans my read on you and your read on me. I have actively pursued a scum read on you and I have open dialogue with half the game actively with the promise of playing with my hand face up that you have no reason to doubt from my actions since. What on God's green Earth does a man have to do in order to be listed as "doing something" that isn't "just talk"? How many other slots would you say have "done something"? Is it only Gova and Gorf? Are YOU all talk since all you've done is defend yourself and push one scum read? What is your problem, man? Let's have this out now rather than later.

Let me tell you what my problem is.
The Soup wagon started as some stupid RVS and actually gained some value later on. Then you come in, you make a buncha posts which all literally come down to "MiR's Raz read is out of whack". Then you spend some more time pretending that is actually a point, IGNORING EVERY REQUEST WE MAKE ABOUT ELABORATION, instead DODGING THE POINT or going "we made it clear youre talking about Raz" but never ACTUALLY talking about what the ACTUAL issue is that you have with us. Then when we make a point about elaborating our issues with Soup, you straight up twist the point to make it look like we want to delve into a WIFOM wall trade while I ain't got no Exchange in hand, I just wanted to show you my hand because I'm playing Dragged Down Into The Grave and targeting that BLS in your hand.

Let me also add to that that ANY elaboration on Raz you've given is REFERRING TO OTHER'S POSTS and you only use those after they posted it (duh) but what I mean with that is that you don't ever elaborate yourself, you just go "oh uh right its what gova/potassium/whoever said, nawimsayin?"

As for not disagreeing with your read list, I haven't even said I agreed on it.
As for the questions you posed, I've read from page 10 onwards, you didn't follow up on ANY questions, and then come in with a random-ass read list where I won't even be able to see ANY ****ING THOUGHT PROCESS which is what matters when I want to see YOUR ****ING READS.

and before you turn that around, I am actually wanting to do more with some questions I've asked, but I spent the entirety of yesterday with YouPorn girl, Andrew
(I want to talk with Alex about them)

and im gonna wrap comments around this next quote:
anyway, even here he does "oh yeah uh elaboration uh gova said something right yeah thats it.", after which he even ****ing goes on to talk about how we kept on raz as if we haven't talked about that 1000s of times already. Even if you disagree with the fact that him not participating in the subject at that point for comments that won't really evolve into ANY form of pressure is a point worthy of mention, I don't see how THINKING THAT IT IS is scummy.

Yes his question was a loaded question but that wasn't our reasoning it was an observation. Gova made it an explanation to Kantrip. Our original issue is how he treated Raz after that question. How he continued to hound him afterwards when Raz gave a legitimate reason for why he didn't answer the question.

I'm legit waiting to see where these multiple posts where he felt better about Raz's later post are in the thread.

Currently I also take issue with how he's approaching our slot. Because he knows Soup pulls this **** as town, and his stated reason for not liking our slot is that we're a lot of talk which is bull ****. We've been doing things since we've joined the game. It's like he's scrambling to keep a scum read on us, either out of paranoia or without a leading suspect to replace it.

The points later are when Raz actually participates and comments on the Soup thing, aka the opposite of what he did in the earlier posts. Clear? Clear.
Clear.

Also, you take issue to your slot because Soup meta. Our reasons for not liking your slot are lined up above here in a nice compilation point because all previous times we made them you decided to DODGE AROUND THEM
It's like he's scrambling to keep a scum read on you my ass. Answer all this because you got. to. be. ****ting. me.

 

[Make it Rain!]

for the record its about time for a break

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh looky looky, i'm at L-3. Anyway, Gova thoughts inc.

You have 3 votes on you how are you L-3?

 

[Gova]

Oh looky looky, i'm at L-3. Anyway, Gova thoughts inc.

This how Gova entered the game (unless i missed something in the first few pages) and it was very uncommital. He talked about some stuff on Soup which was already mentioned. He stated his opinion on that whole thing which isn't particularly interesting considering how late it is. There were no new questions for him, he didn't try to go down another avenue. Just a few more posts after this he was talking about Soup and it wasn't going anywhere.

Sadly the quotes disappeared but after this he was part of the whole anti-town vs. scum conversation which while a part of this game, didn't seem relevant in the context of content.

The last thing to note of Gova is that he did push MiR, but his push was on the stuff that was brought up. Like I could go through all his quotes (which would take longer) and explain how that is, but you can read them and see that Gova isn't stating anything which hasn't already been said. I personally don't think he's contributing since he's just reiterating things other players have said.

ok, i entered the game on page 4, the first quote you linked starts on page 12

i dont know how someone skips that many pages in which to make the most hilarious misconstrue ive seen

the posts about soup that you are probably referring to dont go anywhere cause no one supporting his lynch has really made a good arguement in my opinion on why his temper-tantrum is scummy

i already drew a comparison to scott pilgrim mafia where this similar situation happened;

also, the push on MiR is not borrowed content, raz and i were on him about this catch up for a while, if anyone is borrowing reasoning it would have been from us

@ Gargaglione i'd like to know why you liked that post, pretty sure you were around at the time so you would know all of that stuff isnt true and that i was in the game much earlier than dabuz seems to think

Don't say maybe. I'm totally not wrong, mofuckas are terribly misrepresenting your early actions with Raz as being some sort of diabolical scheme. It's ****in RVS.

didn't you not like them too? i went backed and liked some posts that were related to it where it seemed that way

unless you understand the point im missing that MiR is talking about

 

[Handorin]

Well guys, after school and work all day yesterday, I can see I have quite a few pages to read up on, but to be quick and answer the dying question of:

Why was there a contradiction in my notes about Garg?

Because I was just blazing through 11-12 pages, forgot what I noted about him, then got scum vibes from him later, or mad at him, or something. I'll definitely review it though when I get the time. Which I don't know when that would be.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm curious. You said his play mirror's Luigi's Mansion. How does this little stint with Glarg (that one is sticking) match with that assessment? @ #HBC | Gorf you should answer that for me too. Half this hydra was in that game too.

I hope you caught it during your catch up scum hunting is not a town tell this game. Look at the post I made quoting his entrance in luigis last page (or the page before?), it's almost identical to how he approaches this game.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@ Gova exactly. You guys are scum reading him for reasons that aren't scummy. The posts you liked are the flaw in his logic for disliking Raz, but that's in no way scummy.

 

[Make it Rain!]

1.) You're doing the thing I spent forever in Luigi's Mansion telling you not to do. You do it as both alignments and it is doing you as much good here as it does you everywhere else, which is to say makes you an easier target to tear down. Stop doing it. I don't need the assistance if I actually want you gone.

Nonono, stop this right now. You don't get to lecture me when I'm not even blowing up at the game, let alone when you're not in the same slot as me. People spent 5 pages proving that they missed my points so gloriously that we've now spent 8 pages just arguing about that fact. Who wouldn't get frustrated, even just a little bit, at that?

What on God's green Earth does a man have to do in order to be listed as "doing something" that isn't "just talk"? How many other slots would you say have "done something"? Is it only Gova and Gorf? Are YOU all talk since all you've done is defend yourself and push one scum read? What is your problem, man? Let's have this out now rather than later.

Ramses got this, quite well I might add.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Ehh I wanted to like him but looking back his lack of substance is bothering me the same way it did in Tranquility, and even when he came to the one and only conclusion he had, it seemed like it just wasn't enough for me to like, on top of the fact that it looked like he was just on the hunt for an alternate direction. Would lynch after Top Deck/dabuz.

How exactly do you draw the comparison between this and Tranq? I wasn't in that game.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Town, atm. Would take something solid to change my read.

Then, at the point of this post, what did you think about Kantrip's shift in look on us between 441 and 449?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well, his very first posts weren't bothersome, but his entrance after that felt like he was watching where he stepped, which is exactly what he did in tranquility. But unlike that game, he went somewhere here, so I don't think the corrolation is so important anymore.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Oh okay.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

To expand, I can very much see the town intent behind his entrance here, whereas in tranquility it was (obviously) really questionable.

 

[Make it Rain!]

Because, really:



The irony is titanic

dabunz why did you like this post

 

[Make it Rain!]

Tell me this string of posts doesn't bare a striking resemblance to dabuz' entrance here in any way. It's the same type of poking-at-people-with-a-long-stick he did there, and I'm sure he's actually feeling like Garg is scum with this pressure on him. I'm not denying that. But what else is he doing aside from poking at people with a long stick?

I mean, you're right, it does, but dabuz has played in a lot more games as both alignments and from what I remember of dabuz, he does this regardless of alignment. I find his one-on-one with Garg way more telling than I do of his posts here because, even if it seems like he's posting from a distance, he's still at least getting his hands far more dirty here than he did there.

That said, my other head doesn't feel much in the way of him actually pressuring people, and I tend to agree with him. He is avoiding really getting in and actually doing the work instead of just choosing to ask questions. He votes based on his conclusions but it doesn't seem to expand or change based on new developments. Despite sitting his vote on me, I don't think he's really asked us much of anything beyond his initial vote. The problem I'm having is separating scumdabuz play from normaldabuz play because, despite admittedly defaulting to skimming him, I'm not seeing where the scumminess starts and dabuz's normal reactions end. He's played in more games than LM and the fact that he was scum there doesn't automatically make everything he does there his scum play.

To elaborate on pressure, everyone on our wagon except Gova is just parking their vote without reason. Out of the entire wagon, even if he missed the point worse than a batter trying to swing at the ball from first base, he's at least tried to explain why he dislikes us, where his problem comes from, and then tried to argue with us about it. Meanwhile BLS has just kept sitting on things and dodging the points we tried to create while dabunz just parks his vote and asks a bunch of questions without real extrapolation or progression. Then there's Raz who's been completely dodging the thread. I don't think Dabuz has his vote where it matters and he could stand to at least progress it some.

 

[Make it Rain!]

I don't exactly understand, who cares about what?

Well aside from his stance on MiR he has left everyone else pretty much untouched.

Fanny does make a good point here, however.

 

[Gargaglione]

*Cracks knuckles*

Ah, patronizing. First of all, you suck.

Now let's see, I know you haven't been a part of dgames but like I said, RVS HBC has been a part of games recently like Luigi's mansion where SOkr was quicklynched by two townies, so right of the bat getting all those votes on him considering that happened is scary, as either alignment a player doesn't want to get lynched.

Secondly, if town, Soup can't pressure another slot while having an RVS wagon on him. Flat out he tries to pressure another slot, people think he's ignoring the pressure on himself and use that to push him.

Third, it's very easy (and common) for RVS wagons to be the lynch, not by HBC or quicklynch, but just for "information" as I see in a lot of games. Let me tell you, it sucks to be the RVS wagon who gets lynched for information because no other good lynch was reached.

Fourth, maybe Soup did actually think something about MiR was suspicious and really wanted to get to it.

Fifth, it's what Soup does, period. He's a player who attempted to Day Lynch someone Day 1 in Fire Emblem mafia because a case was being built against him and he didn't want to deal with it despite there being a decent amount of time left in that Day, Also, Soup was town that game. That's just the most recent example I can think of, he's emotional, he gets angry, he gets nervous, he does things that people take as scummy when with him, it's pretty null.

Also, since this definitely wasn't patronizing enough...you suck! (It's easier to be patronizing when i'm not trying to be .-.)

I think I said this before but to reiterate, I think Soup's reactions to the wagon were null for these reason. Sure he could be scum for your reasons, but there's definitely the side of the coin where he could be town for those same actions but under these reasons. Ultimately, I don't see how the differentiation can be made and a solid read can come out of it.

Okay, putting the sassiness aside for a bit: I already explicitly told you that I have no interesting in lynching soup at the moment.

If this is seriously what you were trying to get to me the whole time, then youre either really misunderstood or youre just incoherent.

I would assume it's the latter, since you clearly do not have a problem in the articulation department (although you could work on the patronizing a bit)

 

[Make it Rain!]

EBWOP: What I mean to say with that is, people should move their vote and actually do something with it. Just used my own wagon as an example. Put pressure instead of just parking it. That goes for Gova too, btw (**** you Alex). He's not trying to get anything out of us.

 

[Make it Rain!]

that ebwop was for 627

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Damn enoilgagrag going IN.

Dabuz still does feel like how he did in luigis. He's kinda just there when it comes to things that aren't Garg; he's thrown comments here and there cuz he's been pushed to do so. Iz liek wut dafuq

 

[Make it Rain!]

@ Make it Rain!

What do you make of Gorf and Kantrip's scum read on Dabuz and the reasons they've stated? I could care less about your Dabuz read. I do want it, but this is more important to me.

I think their main points on Dabuz are from an entirely wrong angle. They're burning him for playstyle rather than looking at Dabuz as a whole, their awkward wording at times doesn't help any either ("doesnt want to step on any toes"? make that: isnt putting pressure anywhere).
Another thing that's off to us is that Gorf latched pretty hard on the "scum needs to scumhunt" bone that Alex threw out pages ago. Now, I can understand this being because he's been in an F+L before and he's been burned by it before, but he's overstating it.

And even though the set-up makes it less of an awkward point, it's still definitely noteworthy that two players who were in a PvP situation joined together on a wagon.
On that note, Kantrip, talk to me about Gorf. What do you think of him now?

 

[Top Deck BLS]

Try your best with the Soup angle, MiR. You have nothing since we've replaced in.

Let me tell you what my problem is.
The Soup wagon started as some stupid RVS and actually gained some value later on. Then you come in, you make a buncha posts which all literally come down to "MiR's Raz read is out of whack". Then you spend some more time pretending that is actually a point, IGNORING EVERY REQUEST WE MAKE ABOUT ELABORATION, instead DODGING THE POINT or going "we made it clear youre talking about Raz" but never ACTUALLY talking about what the ACTUAL issue is that you have with us. Then when we make a point about elaborating our issues with Soup, you straight up twist the point to make it look like we want to delve into a WIFOM wall trade.

This is why I don't want to talk with you. You're not actually interested in getting anywhere. You're interested in yelling a lot and turning posts sideways.

I didn't threaten, I promised to make WIFOM wall trades because that's what you have on Soup, a case heavily based in WIFOM based on what Soup does under pressure as town/scum. I also didn't avoid anything. I legitimately thought it was obvious and, MiR, I REPLACED INTO THE GAME. I AM ALLOWED TO HAVE PEOPLE MAKE IT TO POINTS BEFORE I DO WHEN I AM NOT HERE.

As for not disagreeing with your read list, I haven't even said I agreed on it.
As for the questions you posed, I've read from page 10 onwards, you didn't follow up on ANY questions, and then come in with a random-*** read list where I won't even be able to see ANY ****ING THOUGHT PROCESS which is what matters when I want to see YOUR ****ING READS.

and before you turn that around, I am actually wanting to do more with some questions I've asked, but I spent the entirety of yesterday with YouPorn girl, Andrew
(I want to talk with Alex about them)

Wait, wait, wait. I'm not allowed to turn it around, but I'm also not allowed to do more with things I've asked later? That's a double standard if I've ever seen one. If you take issue with that read's list, you could mention it. You could make an effort to obtain some of this mysterious information that you are complaining about me withholding that I have made no effort to hide. Instead, you sit and scream. That's cool though, you can die instead.

The points later are when Raz actually participates and comments on the Soup thing, aka the opposite of what he did in the earlier posts. Clear? Clear.
Clear.

WILL YOU. POST. WHEN. THIS. STARTED.

Answer all this because you got. to. be. ****ting. me.

You make another post this antagonistic, I will take it as proof you aren't actually trying to read anymore and you're just fishing for a lynch. I'll just start ignoring you.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

Nonono, stop this right now. You don't get to lecture me when I'm not even blowing up at the game, let alone when you're not in the same slot as me. People spent 5 pages proving that they missed my points so gloriously that we've now spent 8 pages just arguing about that fact. Who wouldn't get frustrated, even just a little bit, at that?

Me, for one.

Neither of you have deigned to give me those multiple posts that could possibly clear up these issues. I would straight up be off of your slot if you could prove to me with posts in this thread that show you weren't floating Raz out there to see if he would take. No, I wouldn't be off if you made some weak backdoor exit about Raz, but if you had actually said you thought he was town or something similar despite taking issue with him, then cool.

Instead, you ignore the request after simply alluding to "those posts" and go back to yelling.




Also, I'll lecture you every time I see a horrid AtE like this:

Wasn't sure, right now the game's become a run-on of hate for my slot and you two were the only two I remember who seemed not to at least partially hate us.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

My take on Dabuz is that I saw and agree with the Luigi's Mansion sidelining with stuff no one cares about comments. However, he started doing things as soon as he saw something or was asked something. I can't remember him making a post like the back and forth with Glarg throughout the entirety of Luigi's Mansion.

 

[Top Deck BLS]

Then, at the point of this post, what did you think about Kantrip's shift in look on us between 441 and 449?

Didn't care. The reason I'm considering moving him to null is because I don't like his Dabuz scum read. It seems to be hopping on the popular thing after you and I for reasons I just outlined I don't agree with.