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Final Fantasy VII: Mafia [GAME OVER]

Ronike

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A name claim now is not ideal, even tomorrow may not be ideal, it depends on the lynch and nks.

Consider claiming Riddle, you are getting close to your lynch.

At the same time, he is more scummy than most and his "defense is accusing others".

Disagree.
 

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Omni, if he doesn't want to claim he doesn't have to. However, you cannot guarantee that everyone will switch off of him and go for Hando., or a no lynch.

Anyways, Tiddle has said it is not a good idea to claim. Well that's already alluding to quite a bit, so by him saying that he's already got a bright red target on his ***. I don't think he can do much more damage.
 

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That makes no sense, lol.

3) What I mean by it is what you said. And it is by accusing Omis of being a scum mason.

I meant a thin air lynch from all of the town. If we're going to change lynch targets we need more than a few hours. So I think it best if you claim sometime today or tomorrow.

Omni, no. A nameclaim is not a good idea on D2.
Okay:

3) here was the thought process:

It is late in the day and only two people really have a chance of being lynched, Omis and me.
I know for a fact that I am not town and so it would hurt town if I was lynched.
Omis might be scum for all I know and he has been acting scummy.
Since Omis has a higher chance of being scum FMPOV I should push for an Omis lynch to avoid being lynched myself.
Oh look Kevin claimed mason for Omis. There are often scum masons. Omis is scummy so he could very well be a scum mason.

4) The whole point of my Omis lynch was to avoid getting lynched myself.

Does that answer your question? I would also probably want to avoid a nameclaim, but if everyone name claims or I have enough pressure on me I will.

I lol'd at Tiddle. What an awful typo.
 

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*sigh* so many slip ups.

stupid, riddle. if he's town im going to be so pissed
 

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*sigh* so many slip ups.

stupid, riddle. if he's town im going to be so pissed
This post sticks out to me. You have said in several posts that you think I am town and you have been defending me somewhat. And now just because I accidently put the word "not" in which is an obvious typo you post this?

If this is a joke I apologize, but that just seems like an odd reasons to chagne your opinion so drastically.
 

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shut up riddle.

you've been making these **** mistakes way too much for me to write it off as just "mistakes".

that's how i've been approaching it. but it looks REALLY bad that you do these mistakes very often. not just typos, but asking if i used my power and other bs.

you're playing a horrible town game by making yourself look really bad constantly throughout the limelight.
 

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This post sticks out to me. You have said in several posts that you think I am town and you have been defending me somewhat. And now just because I accidently put the word "not" in which is an obvious typo you post this?

If this is a joke I apologize, but that just seems like an odd reasons to chagne your opinion so drastically.
This, because it's kinda obvious he says it will hurt town if he is lynched. With town on mind, it could be easy to slip and put town instead of scum.

Also, I thought it was odd Riddle said he has never been in a game with me and only heard what I do, and then turns around in his bigger post that he C/Ped and said he has seen me play and that I have more potential than this.
 

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This, because it's kinda obvious he says it will hurt town if he is lynched. With town on mind, it could be easy to slip and put town instead of scum.

Also, I thought it was odd Riddle said he has never been in a game with me and only heard what I do, and then turns around in his bigger post that he C/Ped and said he has seen me play and that I have more potential than this.
I've seen you play well and I have seen you scumhunt well. However, the majority is telling me that this is just how you play. Therefore, you have potential however most of the time you don't live up to it. That's what I meant.

Omni said:
shut up riddle.

you've been making these **** mistakes way too much for me to write it off as just "mistakes".

that's how i've been approaching it. but it looks REALLY bad that you do these mistakes very often. not just typos, but asking if i used my power and other bs.

you're playing a horrible town game by making yourself look really bad constantly throughout the limelight.
I've been making horrible amounts of mistakes throughout the game for assorted resons. However, you have made allowances for it and defended me which I appreciate. Now, however I basically say in a post "I am no town" right after saying "my lynch will hurt town". This is an obvious typo and a very bad time for you to change your mind about me. I don't think of the people that were/are on my bandwagon as scummy but this sudden change of heart seems scummy to me now.

Do you think scum would seriously come right out and say "I am scum?" What a stupid idea. My mistakes haven't helped town one bit.
 

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You have got to be kidding me. Nobody would ever come out and say "I am not town" unless it was reverse mafia. Do you even know what WIFOM is? There is no way scum would say "I am not town" to convince people that they are in fact not town, because scum would not say that.
 

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riddle. let me explain something to you.

after making many mistakes up to this point, any mistake you make at this point doesn't seem "obvious". each slip-up ruins your credibility. one slip-up can be written-off. two slips can deem you reckless. however the more slip-ups you produce the harder it is to keep writing them and essentially you off as just a wreckless townie. that's why that typo wasn't "obvious"

you're asking me to ignore you're mistakes but if you would just stop making them then none of this would happen. you keep planting seeds of doubt with each slip you make. its like im a lawyer and you're the defendant and you keep saying stupid stuff to the jury that makes you look bad.

im still in favor of a Hando lynch or a No Lynch at this point. the reason why i called you stupid is because in this position you are not helping yourself by making "obvious" mistakes. i still think you're townie but scum is going to have a great time nailing you for your slip ups i.e. possibly scumfever.
 

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You have got to be kidding me. Nobody would ever come out and say "I am not town" unless it was reverse mafia. Do you even know what WIFOM is? There is no way scum would say "I am not town" to convince people that they are in fact not town, because scum would not say that.
Riddle, there's a gambit for that. BBB was playing a game once and said "This town is to powerful, I am scum. Lynch me." Well, they didn't lynch BBB and he won the game.

Thus BBB's Gambit came into works.
 

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Riddle, there's a gambit for that. BBB was playing a game once and said "This town is to powerful, I am scum. Lynch me." Well, they didn't lynch BBB and he won the game.

Thus BBB's Gambit came into works.
Fine I will amend my thought. It is clear that it is a typo, because in the exact same post I had said it would hurt town to lynch me. This makes it obvious that I meant that I am town. There is nothing to read into that particular typo.
 

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Care to chalk up the mistake tally? To many for your own good.
 

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Care to chalk up the mistake tally? To many for your own good.
1) Asked for a vote count after Omni claimed
2) Asked Omni if he used his powers
3) Said "I know I am not town" on accident

I agree that that is too many. I need to learn how to proofread.
 

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including myself in your posts
Riddle makes way too many little slip ups. As Chomni said, one or two are excusable but when you keep making more, and defend yourself everytime with WIFOM it is hard to trust you in the least bit. Be a lot more careful.

PROD CHILL
Where are you?
 

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as i said earlier, i still want to hear more from chill, marshy, hando, and jungle. chaco, ronike, and rockin seem to be a bit more active.

i believe that riddle shouldn't reveal himself. he's convinced me that he at least should survive for another day. i can believe that all of riddle's mistakes were mistakes. i do think that whoever daykilled Kevin was attempting to break the mason and setup riddle at the same time.

i still dont understand why no one cares to apply any kind of pressure on Hando. rather, a few certain select people are chalking up Hando's play to "this is how Hando" plays. that's bs considering the fact that regardless if this is Hando's play or not it is unhelpful. also, if hando has been working under Rule #1 for the past few games and his playstyle is consistently the same why does this not make him look more suspicious?
 

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dayvig could actually be scum due to flavor and not seeing much anyone suspicious of kevin. they're really rare though

tom gives his scumbags safeclaims and roles that appear town off of flavor but can be scum. nameclaim's not happening

First of all, I never said I was above reasoning. I just said I don't feel like actually posting them. There is a difference.
vote hando die already

no one said "hando posted that he's above posting suspicions" it's that your play is half ***** and seems to suggest that you do what with your posts having lacked content throughout the entire game just like you do every time you're scum

the "hando does this every game" as a reason to not lynch him is silly. he's usually scum when he does this (aka nothing). fos chaco some more
 

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Marshy, Im saying he doesn't give two ****s. I don't wanna lynch a jester.
 

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that's dumb. jesters should just be lynched immediately anyway. think i said this earlier but i guarantee you that there's no jester. tom hates them
 

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100% confirming that Tom despises Jesters.

what say you now, Chaco? interesting that u didnt like playing Kevin's "kill the weakest link" play style but ur okay with Hando's "don't do anything like usual" play style
 

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We disagree there Marshy. I don't think we should appease them with a victory. And hate them or not, they shouldn't be ruled out.

Omni, stop riding Marshy. Lynch Hando if you want, but Im not appeasing him.
 

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so omni and i are both lying about tom hating jesters? what makes you think hando is jester when he's playing the same way he has here as scum? hando hasn't even been jester before
 

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huge fos: chaco considering he is in the LoD backroom. Tom has mentioned in several occassions that he hates jesters. he didn't include one in Disney Mafia and he exclaimed a few times in the current Grammys Mafia that he hates Jesters. he doesnt accept jesters as a fun and fair entity. it isn't just preference
 

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Tom has told me personally he hates jesters. It doesn't mean he will not use one. You're ruling out a possibility that you have no backing on other than preference. Unless you know the set up, you can't be sure. Stop being dumb.

FoSing me for not ruling something out? You need to rethink how you're playing if that's the case.

I see where you're coming from, but never rule it out unless the game rules say so.
 

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no. you're ignoring hando and assuming that he's jester off of nothing. that's why i'm fosing you

i do have backing. if a mod hates something they're probably not going to put it in the game. hando has barely done a pro-town thing all game and you just keep repeating "yeah leave him be and ignore both meta that dictates that tom wouldn't put a jester in here and that hando would play like this as scum"
 

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All Im saying his, don't focus on him TODAY. Pushing a lynch on Hando this late in the game isn't going to end good. Late day lynches never do. I'm saying jester is a possibility, not that it is fact.
 

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If I was a jester, I would have won already.

I won Spidermafia as the politician which is waaay harder than a jester.
And I won TNM in 3 days with a minimum of 2 possible as warlock (could have done two, but I made a little mistake).

Also, Tom hates jesters.

lol @ this talk.

I still think Riddle is the way to go. His actions have been puzzling, and don't really add up (har har. c wut I did thar). It just gives me bad feelings.
 

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if you honestly believe Hando is jester than you should be fine with lynching him considering a current riddle lynch right now may not be the best idea.

the problem with your ignoring Hando or suggesting that people ignore Hando is that you're ignoring the fact that Hando could WELL indeed be scum. not only have u confirmed that he has played like this in past games (where he has been scum), but you're telling people not to focus at him at all. i've been on his *** since D1 for legit reasons and you havent had a word to say about hando except "forget about him for now" wtf? why are you automatically ruling out that Hando is probably jester in the first place?

there is nothing wrong with lynching hando with 5 days left. riddle's scummy behavior is based on mistakes on his part. hando's scummy behavior is based on actual tells, coasting, and making inaccurate/false claims (regarding knowing how a Townie Omni plays).
 

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His actions have been puzzling, and don't really add up (har har. c wut I did thar). It just gives me bad feelings.
i can say the same for you, hando. plus it's interesting that you've finally decided to put in your 2 cents on something when the possibility of being lynched is slowly moving in your favor
 

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If people talk to/about me, I like to post. I dunno. I feel I always have more input regarding that, but otherwise I just like to sit back and watch and make decisions.
 

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Seriously Hando? My god. Yeah, you're definitely on the list. I'd rather Riddle claim, but if that's not going to happen...dunno.

Omni, I wasn't ignoring it. I was saying jester was a greater possibility.
 

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for the last time, very comfortable with hando lynch. if hando lynch isn't passed then i'll go with a no lynch. very uncomfortable with riddle lynch.

hando is pretty much saying he doesn't mind coasting and making votes. all of his votes have been bandwagon votes and none of them have had any real content.
 
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