Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Mafia - Game Over!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

i never said it was good play

i did my best, was on 2 scum lynches and probably have the third in my pool (plus gorf who is the indy of the game)

and i lost interest

i replaced into a condemned-for-modkill slot that hadn't done anything all game just to keep it alive and try to help see this game to completion, and honestly did more for this game than i expected to do

so **** off

You did fine, I read you wrong with the cast outside of Ranmaru people are protecting from some reason.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also 110% back what Kantrip said there, if he didn't post, I don't blame him, I've been there before.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

scum has been shown to have standard classes in their roles

i wouldnt be surprised if gheb was scum gadgeteer

he's been pushing really hard for the whole "one of kwk, j, and ran HAS to be scum" based on who was roleblocked N2 when we don't know that roleblocks are all that were involved in blocking the kills. hell, i could see gheb bussing his mates and then purposely not night killing to throw everyone off their speculation

look at how he was on the fence on scary. i called him out for it. i called bardull out for it too. im almost sure their plan as a scumteam was to wait out the scary wagon, fence sit it, and see if they'd need to bus or not. but i replaced in, saw scary's claim contradiction that had ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP (and gheb was ignoring which he wouldnt do as town), and pushed the lynch in the right direction

only then did gheb and bardull show that they were interested in lynching scary.

I called them out on that, saying they were likely scary's mates if he flipped scum

gheb instantly agreed on bardull (never really gave more reasoning than that, and we got the bardull lynch off of basically that alone, and some strong-arming) but said I was off-base on him

classic gheb bussing, feels he is in danger, tries to throw a partner under the bus to better his position

then after he feels more comfortable with the bardull lynch done with, he switches gears to "ONE OF J, KWK, RAN IS SCUM"

then he roleblocks ran who we kept alive so he could use his 1-shot cop. WTF is okay about this??

the gorf thing happens and he hops off that previous wagon to go for gorf, yet is generally fine with switching between any of them. he's been dancing around everywhere as far as reads go

after the double bus, his plan would be a gorf, kwk, j, ran lynch in quick succession for the win

so yeah, lynch Gheb toMorrow for me, will ya?

and sorry this didn't come sooner

real life johns were real, wish you'd have given me time

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

also ruy stop advocating your own lynch

if last scum isn't gheb
make sure gorf is dead before lylo
then look between ran and vult

it isn't j, it isn't ruy, it isn't dabuz, it has a slim chance of being MC but I doubt it

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

oh wait

i was actually lynched

:C

 

[Gova]

3. Maximum Carnage ()
4. Kreative Whiz Kids (7) Vult, J, DSH, MC, Vult, Nabe, Nabe
5. Detective Sherlock Hound (3) Ranmaru, Nabe, Nabe
6. J ()
7. Gorf ()
8. Dabunz ()
10. Ranmaru ()
12. Gheb_01 (2) KWK, Gheb
13. Nabe ()
14. Vult Redux ()

Not voting - Gorf, Dabunz

A lynch has been reached!

Kweative Whiz Kids (Queen Remedi, Mafia (Ninja)) has been lynched!

Town wins!

Okay, at this point, I'm going to ask that the scum team not reveal their unique powers since most of them did not get used due to them replacing out or not being able to use them due to them botching the safe claims and as a result, not being safe to claim those powers if they wanted to.

A big thanks to Bardull and Kantrip for replacing in. This game wouldn't have existed otherwise.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

if i had done all that like... half an hour earlier

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh my.

Welp, gg town.

 

[Kreative Whiz Kids]

we actually No Killed N2 too

i was like "hey let's not kill since everyone is relying on setup speculation, it'll make people think one of the people roleblocked is scum"

then Nabe decides to roleblock us anyways

**** you Nabe

 

[Kantrip]

sorry about how the game turned out gova, kinda ****ty

thanks for modding though

ggs everyone

 

[Orboknown]

Fyi rake and I told gova fml would replace in

And we proceeded to read fifty pages in 3 days just to not end up in.

 

[Kantrip]

why didnt you replace acro?

 

[Gova]

He didn't message me until after Acrostic had been modkilled.

 

[Orboknown]

I told rake to send gova the pm a couple days after I got out of basic. Early d3

 

[Kantrip]

"hey gova we'll repla-"

acro has been modkilled

"FML"

 

[Orboknown]

Pri much that. I got to reading the d2 end and was like welp.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

My claim was totally real.

Aside from one small detail.

I was totally immune to NA's... ASIDE from factional NK's of which I had a one shot BP. It was used N1 lol. Oh and my wincon was legit so THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME WIN WITCHU SUP TOWN Y'ALL MY NIGZ FOR REAL!

 

[Dabuz]

Sad so many replacements happened, especially for KwK because with 2 scum down and having no paper trail, they didn't have a chance of making it to Lylo. Bardull also happened to replace into a slot that was marked for death.

Edit: Also, good job town!

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Btw carnage you're an idiot if you really were sincere about totally downplaying Day play. I get the whole argument of using tangible **** like claims to dwindle down, but c'mon it's not like any one of these scums died strictly cuz of tracking down those NA's. Reads are real. They're how you stopped town from lynching Ran and Gheb, and how we nailed EACH scummy. Yes, I will say that the reads are what caused all three of them to die. I was shot N1 and informed, so I was willing enough to rely on my scary read to push that out of the three of us on the chopping block, then HBW was pinned with scary, and then I feel a very solid mix of PoE and reads were used to squash KWK. We (yes, we) rocked on all levels motha ****a, and I must say that even though I don't agree with your approaches to mafia on a personal level, they sure as hell worked out.

AY YO VOTING BLOCK @ Overswarm @Ryker @ Dabuz WHERE U AT!!!!

/brofists for all

#firstindywinandevenwhileclaimingwootwoot

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Btw

****ing THANK YOU to all you guys who were vouching to keep me alive. You're the reason I can celebrate

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My claim was totally real.

Aside from one small detail.

I was totally immune to NA's... ASIDE from factional NK's of which I had a one shot BP. It was used N1 lol. Oh and my wincon was legit so THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME WIN WITCHU SUP TOWN Y'ALL MY NIGZ FOR REAL!

I'm sorry. regardless of alignment I would lynch all indies even if you were legit here.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oh and to all you guys who were talking about killing me off:

You suck

This is why (and surprisingly enough, OVERSWARM is most likely to back me up when I say this) there IS NO strictly mechanical answer to anything in mafia. Look at the nature of how I claimed. I was in no corner. I simply claimed so that I wouldn't be a distraction to finding the one answer that both me and town needed to win. What if I had fake claimed? What if I had to follow up on that fake claim and got myself caught in a corner? I'd be dead and god knows whether or not town would be led to KWK (I'm sure y'all would but ya never know feel me?), but I did and we lynched scum 3/4 successful ass times. 'Twas great working with you fellas, and I can't wait to hear Gova's setup schpeal. This role was immensely fun to work with, and I appreciate you giving it to me mang

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Am I wrong to say I though this, and OS's previous, was town leaned in power?

 

[Dabuz]

While I agree with Gorf that dayplay should always supercede claims, in this specific scenario, claim play is what won the game so shoutouts to MC for that. Also, I would never have lynched you Gorf if you just claimed town TBQH. You were on scum lynches and I knew waaaay before your claim you were judge cause of flavor knowledge.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm sorry. regardless of alignment I would lynch all indies even if you were legit here.

Well 98% of the time I'm sure I'd agree with you. But 98% of the time indy's don't claim out of their own free will, and indy's don't typically have tangible proof of helping town all game, and when there's one scum that said indy claims to share a common agenda with town on, AT LEAST let the helpful player continue to aid you until it becomes obviously uneasy keeping said indy around. There's a reason I said "lynch Ruy and KWK while I'm alive and I'll go without a fight." I thought that was the key to victory, and it was. Before and after my claim, I was helping town, even if it wasn't in as much of a verbal way as some may want. But hey, what dafuq are you gonna do when you're a voteless indy who's one shot BP is already eaten up, open up your mouth?

 

[Overswarm]

My claim was totally real.

Aside from one small detail.

I was totally immune to NA's... ASIDE from factional NK's of which I had a one shot BP. It was used N1 lol. Oh and my wincon was legit so THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME WIN WITCHU SUP TOWN Y'ALL MY NIGZ FOR REAL!

I ain't scurred of no indies.

Btw carnage you're an idiot if you really were sincere about totally downplaying Day play. I get the whole argument of using tangible **** like claims to dwindle down, but c'mon it's not like any one of these scums died strictly cuz of tracking down those NA's. Reads are real. They're how you stopped town from lynching Ran and Gheb, and how we nailed EACH scummy. Yes, I will say that the reads are what caused all three of them to die. I was shot N1 and informed, so I was willing enough to rely on my scary read to push that out of the three of us on the chopping block, then HBW was pinned with scary, and then I feel a very solid mix of PoE and reads were used to squash KWK. We (yes, we) rocked on all levels motha ****a, and I must say that even though I don't agree with your approaches to mafia on a personal level, they sure as hell worked out.

AY YO VOTING BLOCK @ Overswarm @Ryker @ Dabuz WHERE U AT!!!!

/brofists for all

#firstindywinandevenwhileclaimingwootwoot

Did you ever figure out why I asked you to be in a voting block?

Also I count votes as mechanics, not day play. That's why I posted all the vote stuff.


*pats self on back*

Good stuff from Gheb and J this game. I thought Ryker and myself played very well D1 for what we were trying to do, but it didn't work out as well as we had hoped. We were hoping to either make it to Lylo on our claim by being invincible or, hopefully, get NKilled D1 and scum get shown by our flip. When we harassed Nabe and we didn't die it made a lot of stuff clearer for us.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

While I agree with Gorf that dayplay should always supercede claims, in this specific scenario, claim play is what won the game so shoutouts to MC for that. Also, I would never have lynched you Gorf if you just claimed town TBQH. You were on scum lynches and I knew waaaay before your claim you were judge cause of flavor knowledge.

Explain @ bold?

Also, in this specific scenario, I'll give you KWK. But the rest was vastly lead by Day play analysis (shoutouts to my town mofo J ova here for sweeping up shop on Scary and HBW you rock), and the fact is that Scary almost wiggled out because of his claim. But I do feel you. The reason I claimed indy is because, idk, if I saw my claim (and it'd be hard as **** to fake it well) I'd see middle-of-the-line indy. But like I said before I don't even think I should be called "independent," cuz I'm TOTALLY not. My win was entirely dependent on an outside source's win lol.

Btw, dabuz, PLAY MORE LIKE YOU DID THIS GAME PLEASE. Sure, I get that early play isn't easy for people to do well in, and it takes time, but you've never been such a glimmering light of obvtown like you were this game to me. So grats.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Did you ever figure out why I asked you to be in a voting block?

Cuz you're a ****ing g and I should be sucking your fat **** for letting me win.

But no seriously I am curious as to why.

 

[ranmaru]

Sorry for my very bad play here. Got that silence and I was like... ****.

I still don't get the 'hey ran you don't swear' and the 'hey he's ignoring stuff... yeah he is!'

Recently I might have forgotten something.

So. I guess I did ok near the beginning, I expiremented during the middle and messed up. Sorry.

I accept the reaming from J and MC who said they would.

 

[ranmaru]

When it came down to it I advocated against 2/3 of the scum's lynches. Sorry Ryu thought you were scum for D3 man

 

[ranmaru]

Btw, dabuz, PLAY MORE LIKE YOU DID THIS GAME PLEASE. Sure, I get that early play isn't easy for people to do well in, and it takes time, but you've never been such a glimmering light of obvtown like you were this game to me. So grats.

This is the exact reason why I defended him. I didn't want a guy this obv town to die D1

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So I played like ****.

What can I do to improve it here?

 

[Dabuz]

Explain @ bold?

Also, in this specific scenario, I'll give you KWK. But the rest was vastly lead by Day play analysis (shoutouts to my town mofo J ova here for sweeping up shop on Scary and HBW you rock), and the fact is that Scary almost wiggled out because of his claim. But I do feel you. The reason I claimed indy is because, idk, if I saw my claim (and it'd be hard as **** to fake it well) I'd see middle-of-the-line indy. But like I said before I don't even think I should be called "independent," cuz I'm TOTALLY not. My win was entirely dependent on an outside source's win lol.

Btw, dabuz, PLAY MORE LIKE YOU DID THIS GAME PLEASE. Sure, I get that early play isn't easy for people to do well in, and it takes time, but you've never been such a glimmering light of obvtown like you were this game to me. So grats.

Basically in FFTA, Judges are like watchers of the battlefield, they can't interact with the fight except for giving cards and judges are what assign laws. You being voteless for 3 day phases straight told me you couldn't be anyone but the one main character judge in the game (with the other non generic judge only appearing in a a single late game sidequest) because you couldn't interact with the battlefield (vote). Then story wise it wouldn't make sense for you to be aligned with Mewt or Twen cause well, story.

And yeah, when I say won the game, I meant getting the winning lynch KWK. Scary and HBW/ Bardull were just caught by day play + poor claims which only hurt their cases IMO.

And LOL, i'll try to play more like this. The moment I saw double vote as an option the urge to hardbody scum arose.

 

[Dabuz]

Sorry for my very bad play here. Got that silence and I was like... ****.

I still don't get the 'hey ran you don't swear' and the 'hey he's ignoring stuff... yeah he is!'

Recently I might have forgotten something.

So. I guess I did ok near the beginning, I expiremented during the middle and messed up. Sorry.

I accept the reaming from J and MC who said they would.

I thought you played pretty well Day 1 and Day 2, had strong reads and just stood out as obv. town.

 

[ranmaru]

I had a hard time because J was reading me as Null because I wasn't giving 'my own work' so I tried to do that D3. Didn't go so well.

Kantrip did get me with the "It's as if he is putting those cases to garner reactions" I was sort of doing that since I was cop. I was thinking "Maybe I'll make a case on the guy I'm going to inspect" but... instead I get **** on. I put that case at the start of the day so I can get more attention and show I was putting my neck out there.

 

[Dabuz]

So I played like ****.

What can I do to improve it here?

I think you just gotta think through what you say more. You did silly things like contradict yourself when defending Scary D1 along with trying to push while not being caught up. Then D2 you whiteknighted Scary instead of letting him defend himself but you were also in agreement that his play -could- be scummy and i'm like, :L. I couldn't trust you because you seemed so on the fence for Scary AND Bardull.

 

[ranmaru]

So I know I am able to play solid it's that sometimes I have snap judgments and things don't go so well. I also realize I always have this blood thirst and overwhelming urge to show how much I want my scumread dead.

 

[ranmaru]

What really got me about Ryu was his sudden read change on J and then his "Yep" to voting me without really giving much reason. Also Ryu you seemed to have a problem with me compromising to you D1 but when I explained to you why you didn't really respond. You gotta talk it out with me if you have a problem but instead you just leave it there and then when someone brings up a case you are like "Yep" without really deciding yourself.

If you DID respond that that first thing then I'm sorry for not remembering it. Otherwise besides that I thought you may have been town D2.

 

[ranmaru]

Btw I was actively buddying Dabuz D2 especially with the likes. Buddies gonna bud.

Also I'm glad this game is over because I'm seriously busy with school.

Now some of you guys can join my game. ;o

 

[Dabuz]

I had a hard time because J was reading me as Null because I wasn't giving 'my own work' so I tried to do that D3. Didn't go so well.

Kantrip did get me with the "It's as if he is putting those cases to garner reactions" I was sort of doing that since I was cop. I was thinking "Maybe I'll make a case on the guy I'm going to inspect" but... instead I get **** on. I put that case at the start of the day so I can get more attention and show I was putting my neck out there.

It was a good idea, just gotta be careful about making stretches like that Nabe + MC connection case.

Edit: Townbuddies FTW ^^