It'd be a shame because Ivory Coast is by far the best African team in the World Cup.
-
Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
FIFA World Cup 2010
- Thread starter Greenstreet
- Start date
Jane
Smash Hero
i hope ivory coast can pull an upset out of their arses like the swizzys did
Don't be ridiculous. Italy got through numerous times and took a lot of shots on target. Paston's **** good keeping spared NZ.
New Zealand played defensively, and rightfully so. Do you think they would have lasted against Italy if they hadn't? That's called "strategy", and a team of Italy's caliber wouldn't have been stopped by it if they'd played better and finished when they had their chances. Italy played pretty sloppy, and that's what stopped them from winning.
Serves them right
REL38
Smash Lord
Kaka got Red carded for one guy running into him and FAKING like he got bashed
While Kaka was just standing there
This is rediculous and stupid
While Kaka was just standing there
This is rediculous and stupid
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
what an awful game by ivory coast, they play like ***** except for toure yaya and maybe somebody else
and brazil sucks really, they did nothing and scored 3 goals, I'm waiting for the moment they'll play against a serious team and get *****.
however, I enjoyed the last part with the fighting stuff. kaka getting red card was the highlight of the game no doubt. go cry with dunga, you ******.
I can't believe how much I hate brazil
btw people, 2nd goal by luiz fabiano (who sucks) was handball not once but TWICE. awesome refs.
and brazil sucks really, they did nothing and scored 3 goals, I'm waiting for the moment they'll play against a serious team and get *****.
however, I enjoyed the last part with the fighting stuff. kaka getting red card was the highlight of the game no doubt. go cry with dunga, you ******.
I can't believe how much I hate brazil
btw people, 2nd goal by luiz fabiano (who sucks) was handball not once but TWICE. awesome refs.
REL38
Smash Lord
Cuz it's completely legit when you get Red Carded for a guy lightly jogging into you, completely overly exagerrating the slight bump muchly akin to brushing shoulders with someone
What a horrible ref
That 2nd goal was clearly a handball though
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
I saw Cameroon and Netherlands yesterday... I was dissappointed.
It's weird when they start dominating the beginning of the match, but then you come back later 3 minutes till the game ends and you see somehow the Netherlands land 2 goals on them...
And I was rooting for Cameroon in this match
It's weird when they start dominating the beginning of the match, but then you come back later 3 minutes till the game ends and you see somehow the Netherlands land 2 goals on them...
And I was rooting for Cameroon in this match
Italy never really got through, most of their chances were long shots. NZ are just a vastly inferior team holding on for dear life when there's no point in even trying. I mean what are they trying to achieve anyway?Don't be ridiculous. Italy got through numerous times and took a lot of shots on target. Paston's **** good keeping spared NZ.
New Zealand played defensively, and rightfully so. Do you think they would have lasted against Italy if they hadn't? That's called "strategy", and a team of Italy's caliber wouldn't have been stopped by it if they'd played better and finished when they had their chances. Italy played pretty sloppy, and that's what stopped them from winning.
Serves them right
This is why crap teams are lame.
I'm glad Kaká got sent off. He's ****ing ****.
Dunga is an idiot for not bringing Ronaldinho, especially now that Elano got crunched in the shin.
Also Keita's faking is no worse than Rivaldo in 2002. Rivaldo is a ****** though.
Teran, Ronaldinho shouldn't be in this cup. Seach in YouTube for Paulo Henrique Ganso. He's a 21 years old guys, plays in the same team Robinho does. He's really smart. There is another guy called Neymar that also plays with Robinho and Ganso. He's 18. Brazil would be amazing if they were there.
Dude, if Ronaldo was in World Cup 2006 scoring goals when he could barely walk, Ronaldinho should be in this World Cup.
Robinho is a clown, he made the bad decision of going to the premiership and now he's crap.
Robinho is a clown, he made the bad decision of going to the premiership and now he's crap.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
Robinho is a hell of a player but Toure guarded him pretty nice today
Kaka has been playing MUCH worse than Ronaldinho this year, so themike you're terribly wrong. Ronaldinho here would be awesome, especially since he's the kind of guy who can break through defenses with smart passes and genius tricks and doesn't stand there like other brazilian players do. idk about ganso and veymar, they are probably good, idk about them.. but Ronaldinho > Kaka right now. What's more, Ronaldinho and DIEGO should be there instead of some gay people like Ramires or Felipe Melo. seriously take a look at the brazilian squad. are you proud of them? cos I wouldn't. and that's because of Dunga who brings tanks and people who can't give a **** easy pass in the midfield instead of Ronaldinho, Diego or Pato (whose all 3 should be starters in my opinion)
I mean come on, Diego is way better than Elano, not to speak about gayass Melo or Gilberto Silva. Especially those 2 together in the midfield totally kills brazil's advance with the ball and you're going to regret not having better players later in the bracket, when you'll have to face somebody serious. I'm sure.
Kaka has been playing MUCH worse than Ronaldinho this year, so themike you're terribly wrong. Ronaldinho here would be awesome, especially since he's the kind of guy who can break through defenses with smart passes and genius tricks and doesn't stand there like other brazilian players do. idk about ganso and veymar, they are probably good, idk about them.. but Ronaldinho > Kaka right now. What's more, Ronaldinho and DIEGO should be there instead of some gay people like Ramires or Felipe Melo. seriously take a look at the brazilian squad. are you proud of them? cos I wouldn't. and that's because of Dunga who brings tanks and people who can't give a **** easy pass in the midfield instead of Ronaldinho, Diego or Pato (whose all 3 should be starters in my opinion)
I mean come on, Diego is way better than Elano, not to speak about gayass Melo or Gilberto Silva. Especially those 2 together in the midfield totally kills brazil's advance with the ball and you're going to regret not having better players later in the bracket, when you'll have to face somebody serious. I'm sure.
I'm talking about both. Ronaldo was in the 2006 squad when he was so fat he could barely move. Hilariously enough, he was still technically proficient enough to score goals.
Even if Ronaldinho hasn't got the same speed and agility as his younger days, he's still miles better than Kaká who's slow and crap now regardless, plus Ronaldinho's technical proficiency and level of skill, and passing ability have always been leagues beyond Kaká's ever were so...
Ronaldinho should be in the squad, and yes especially over a bunch of ******* like Ramires.
100x agreed with peyudosmith
I thought you were talking only about Ronaldinho, not Ronaldo. And I agree with you about the latter. However, besides still being fat, he's also pretty old. I do like the way Kaká is, frankly. I would also prefer Ronaldinho replacing him, but as I've said, I think Ganso would do a better job.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
don't make me laugh
Spain is way better than Brazil at this moment, but Brazil has been more efficient right now. you are such a demagogue if you are taking results like todays' 3-1 against a pathetic Ivory Coast for football quality. If we are lucky enough to see Spain play at their best, you're gonna rephrase that for sure.
ps.
Spain qualified for this cup winning a hell of forty something stright games and playing awesome football, which is really a paradox these days as we are getting to see in this world cup. the other day's loss against Switzerland was one of the very few games Spain has lost since 2006. which is kind of a shame really.
ps2.
as I don't know much about brazilian leagues, I should take your word on that Ganso guy. just sayin Ronaldinho is better than Kaka right now. I would also put Pato before Luiz Fabiano but that one is a personal opinion.
Spain better play at their best, or I'm sending a fresh barrel of AIDS to South Africa.
Well, maybe Spain can show us the good team they have and win the World Cup at least one time.
Brazil won everything we were able to win, without losing to the USA. Just saying.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
amongst teams that are playing better football at this moment I must mention Mexico and Germany. I actually think USA is a solid team and they could give more than one surprise into the bracket, if they go on.
then, Argentina, the Netherlands and Brazil are just being efficient at the moment, as they haven't surprised me one bit but they have won both their games.
I hope Spain joins the group of teams who are playing well and not the ones who are being efficient, cos just by being efficient won't take a team to win the championship.
ps.
I was expecting that kind of answer themike, but you have to take into account that Uefa level is one or two steps higher than Conmebol, at least in terms of variety of good teams.
Brazil has to play against teams who are not at their level to qualify. Winning America's Cup for Brazil is not that hard, especially since Argentina has been playing awful before this world cup. However, winning the Eurocup is serious. Spain had to face Germany in the final. And Germany is gonna go farrr in this world cup I must say.
no offense intended by the way, I'm speaking about present right now. Of course Brazil had awesome teams and players like Pele in the past and they have won 5 times the world cup, whatever. I'm not talking about the past here.
then, Argentina, the Netherlands and Brazil are just being efficient at the moment, as they haven't surprised me one bit but they have won both their games.
I hope Spain joins the group of teams who are playing well and not the ones who are being efficient, cos just by being efficient won't take a team to win the championship.
ps.
I was expecting that kind of answer themike, but you have to take into account that Uefa level is one or two steps higher than Conmebol, at least in terms of variety of good teams.
Brazil has to play against teams who are not at their level to qualify. Winning America's Cup for Brazil is not that hard, especially since Argentina has been playing awful before this world cup. However, winning the Eurocup is serious. Spain had to face Germany in the final. And Germany is gonna go farrr in this world cup I must say.
no offense intended by the way, I'm speaking about present right now. Of course Brazil had awesome teams and players like Pele in the past and they have won 5 times the world cup, whatever. I'm not talking about the past here.
Lol obsession with all efficiency and no flair is why Germany keeps getting to the final and losing.
Because they're actually not very good.
Like no really.
Germany aren't very good.
Because they're actually not very good.
Like no really.
Germany aren't very good.
Brazil won the Confederations Cup, in which Spain were also playing.
Nobody cares about the Confederations Cup.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
I actually think Germany is a hell of a team right now. In terms of good presence in midfield, keeping the ball and playing fast, especially thanks to his second row of attackers (Muller, Ozil and Podolski) they are awesome.
Maybe in the past they were a team much more obsessed with defense and cutting the other teams offensive strategies. but it's not like that right now. hopefully Germany would give us some more interesting games. I don't think the Netherlands or Brazil are playing better than them right now. Don't take results for good football, sometimes both things are not related.
Brazil for example could play waaaay better if they had different players on the field. Take Melo and Gilberto out and put Diego and Elano. In place of Elano put Ronaldinho. There you have a team with immense quality to play really good football. But right now with Dunga's strategy, they can't even progress in midfield with those two tanks without help from Maicon at the wing or Robinho going down to take the ball up.
It's not like nobody cares about it but Confederations Cup was one game for Spain, in which we lost because USA played really well, honestly. USA are a team to take into account IMO, they play serious and with order, keeping the ball and attacking when they have to and playing really good defense and counters when they have to.
And themike, Brazil won against the USA by just one goal, 3-2. They were winning 3-0 and USA came back. Brazil could have lost that game, it was really close. If Spain and Brazil would have played there, who knows what would have happened.
Maybe in the past they were a team much more obsessed with defense and cutting the other teams offensive strategies. but it's not like that right now. hopefully Germany would give us some more interesting games. I don't think the Netherlands or Brazil are playing better than them right now. Don't take results for good football, sometimes both things are not related.
Brazil for example could play waaaay better if they had different players on the field. Take Melo and Gilberto out and put Diego and Elano. In place of Elano put Ronaldinho. There you have a team with immense quality to play really good football. But right now with Dunga's strategy, they can't even progress in midfield with those two tanks without help from Maicon at the wing or Robinho going down to take the ball up.
It's not like nobody cares about it but Confederations Cup was one game for Spain, in which we lost because USA played really well, honestly. USA are a team to take into account IMO, they play serious and with order, keeping the ball and attacking when they have to and playing really good defense and counters when they have to.
And themike, Brazil won against the USA by just one goal, 3-2. They were winning 3-0 and USA came back. Brazil could have lost that game, it was really close. If Spain and Brazil would have played there, who knows what would have happened.
Dunga was a holding midfielder himself so it's no wonder he's playing such a lame strategy.
Germany's got good players but Spain's team is literally a dream team. If they don't win, they should be lined up and shot.
Germany's got good players but Spain's team is literally a dream team. If they don't win, they should be lined up and shot.
No, USA were winning 2-0 and Brazil could make 3-2.
Edit: Lol, Brazil needs Melo and Gilberto Silva. At least one of them. Otherwise the team would be really offensive. One of them is just fine, especially Melo because Gilberto is old. And Diego sucks.
Edit: Lol, Brazil needs Melo and Gilberto Silva. At least one of them. Otherwise the team would be really offensive. One of them is just fine, especially Melo because Gilberto is old. And Diego sucks.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
It happens pretty often that the best team doesn't win. I really think Spain has the best team, but winning a world cup title is no joke. Everybody is doing their best and there are many tough teams. Many times it's even a matter of good luck in decisive moments.
I don't want Spain to win the world cup. What I really want is them to play good football and show it to the world, that's what would make me proud. Listen people sayin, those guys are the best team REGARDLESS if they win or not.
I'm so hyped about bracket games rght now, those are gonna be the best. If Spain goes into the bracket, they will show something good, I'm pretty sure.
In my opinion Del Bosque messed up the first game putting Busquets and Xabi Alonso together as they play similar functions in the spanish strategy. He better put Cesc along with Xavi tomorrow and Torres with Villa at the front. That would be the best.
ps.
lol I totally do not agree with that mike. Diego is really good, you should know that fairly well as him, Robinho (and Elano secondarily) guided an awesome Santos (I think) to play aweeeesome football in the brazilian leagues some years ago. They were young and really good just as you claim those new Ganso guys to be. Diego has been progressing in Werder Bremen and he's awesome, I'm surprised you don't think the same.
Melo is worse than Silva if that's even possible. Today he tried to pull off a pass to the right wing and he sent the ball directly to the audience, awful. Worse control of the ball I've ever seen on a player wearing the canarinha, a total disgrace.
And putting out those 2 wouldn't be that much of a pain for brazil since they have got a couple of defenders Lucio and Juan who are super solid, plus an awesome keeper. People used to say the best defense is good attack. Brazil seems to have forgotten about their very own style.
I'm a firm believer in teams maximising their potential.
If the best team doesn't win, it means they weren't showing us their best, which means they're a letdown to their country and the people who watch them.
If the best team doesn't win, it means they weren't showing us their best, which means they're a letdown to their country and the people who watch them.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
that's actually a legit way to see it, but I disagree. If Spain plays good enough for me to be proud of them, I can't ask for more. Winning the world cup is so difficult, even if they are favorites, I won't ask for that much. Obviously I want them to make it, but you have to be realistic sometimes.
ps.
that's right mike, I didn't remember that game correctly. However that's it, 3-2 for Brazil and even closer for USA to make it since they were leading.
and one more time: USA IS NO JOKE. I hope they prove that they are a very solid team again. the other day's robbery wasn't fair for them. They pulled off the awesomest comeback and the second best performance we've seen so far imo, after Germany's sweeping of Australia.
Gilberto and Melo do different things from Lúcio and Juan. As I have said, we need at least one of them. And I think Diego is still good, but not at the level of a Brazilian squad for the World Cup, in my opinion. The fun fact is that Robinho, Ganso and Neymar are playing for Santo atm. :]
Yeah I'm fine if teams do well and underdogs pull out truly spectacular performances, that's what good competition is all about.
But yeah, a lot of the top teams have given their countries nothing to be proud of. Also the competition is compounded by pathetically over the top defensive tactics which I've ranted about enough but I guess never enough is what I should really be saying.
Also Gilberto and Melo are a good partnership that allow security in midfield for players like Maicon to run up and attack.
It gives the offensive players much more freedom.
But yeah, a lot of the top teams have given their countries nothing to be proud of. Also the competition is compounded by pathetically over the top defensive tactics which I've ranted about enough but I guess never enough is what I should really be saying.
Also Gilberto and Melo are a good partnership that allow security in midfield for players like Maicon to run up and attack.
It gives the offensive players much more freedom.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
as far as I know Robinho is a Santos legend, as Diego was. when they played together, the whole world was aware of it, even though we don't hear many things about the Brazilian league here in Europe.
and I would keep one of those if any of them actually convinced me but that's not the case. both are horrible imo. Mauro Silva for example was a great midfield guard at his time and compulsory for Brazil to be put. Right now, I don't think that's the case for anyone of those two, really.
but well, keeping one and putting a midfield attacker along with Elano (Diego or Ronaldingo, or both) would actually radically change brazilian style.
ps.
when Maicon runs up the wing, Bastos doesn't and then he can cover up for him side to side with Lucio and Juan. That's what Abidal does in Barça when Dani Alves goes up and it really works.
Bastos is a bit of a spastic though, and the defence has a tendency to be a bit vacant.
Slhoka
Smash Lord
Againg, I haven't seen the games today. And right now, the press mostly talks about the French team falling apart (the players refused to train today, and there were some resignations in the staff).
I'm really happy to see that Italy didn't win (and also because I like New Zealand).
Anyway, here's an update of the prediction contest :
I'm really happy to see that Italy didn't win (and also because I like New Zealand).
Anyway, here's an update of the prediction contest :
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
the thing is, Brazil should be playing way more offense with the set of players they have and DUNGA DOESN'T TAKE TO THE WORLD CUP.
this guy is a ******* just as Domenech for France. He keeps winning, because Brazil is good no matter who plays. But honestly, he is totally ruining what could be a great team and making it look pathetic even if they win. As I said, I wouldn't be proud of what that man is doing to the team if I rooted for them. It just makes me sad cos he denies us to see what could be a really awesome team.
again, I can't say no to that Ganso guy as I haven't seen any of him yet. If he comes to Europe I might see more of him. But in terms of what I've seen: Diego over Elano, Ronaldinho over Kaka and Pato over Luiz Fabiano.
this guy is a ******* just as Domenech for France. He keeps winning, because Brazil is good no matter who plays. But honestly, he is totally ruining what could be a great team and making it look pathetic even if they win. As I said, I wouldn't be proud of what that man is doing to the team if I rooted for them. It just makes me sad cos he denies us to see what could be a really awesome team.
again, I can't say no to that Ganso guy as I haven't seen any of him yet. If he comes to Europe I might see more of him. But in terms of what I've seen: Diego over Elano, Ronaldinho over Kaka and Pato over Luiz Fabiano.
So hey Slhoka what's it like watching the French team fall apart.
Then again, calling the coach fils de pute was the right thing to do. Anelka's a boss.
Then again, calling the coach fils de pute was the right thing to do. Anelka's a boss.
peyudosmith
Smash Journeyman
Domenech is a ******* but Anelka is also mentally mad. That's not something you do in the middle of a World Cup. However, the French team deciding not to train today is like total resignation.
In the first place, France should never have traveled to South Africa with a coach they didn't want to be there to lead them. They shuld have fired him before the world cup no matter what. They have been 'ridiculés' like Ribery said. The world cup is once every 4 years and it's an opportunity not to get lost in purpose like that. They should have let Ireland go if they were going to run things like this.
In the first place, France should never have traveled to South Africa with a coach they didn't want to be there to lead them. They shuld have fired him before the world cup no matter what. They have been 'ridiculés' like Ribery said. The world cup is once every 4 years and it's an opportunity not to get lost in purpose like that. They should have let Ireland go if they were going to run things like this.
France don't deserve to win anything without Zizou.