FF6 Mafia - GAME OVER! Mafia wins!

[BSL]

also, i am seen as indy when investigated.

Cello didn't get indy results. He got results of mafia or not mafia.

just went back and looked at this again. i said i am seen as indy. never said cello would get an indy result.

what happens when cello investigates an indy? thats the result he would get when investigating me.

just saw who i have to track. dont worry about telling me.

well, rPSI needs to tell me who he's vigging.

 

[BSL]

back to homework now. ill check the thread again in a few hours.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

You say that your PM says that you investigate as indy.
You are seen as indy when investigated. Same thing.

But we know that Cello gets two results: "mafia" or "not mafia". Mafia is... mafia, and not mafia is everything besides mafia. Pretty simple, right?

Town and indy both investigate as not mafia. Therefore, you wouldn't be a townie who investigates as indy, because that's like a townie who investigates as town. So, either:

a) You're lying, and mafia.
b) You're telling the truth, and you're mafia (the only faction that would need the ability to investigate as not mafia).

That's why this is a scumslip. It proves you are scum.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

GLG, are you stuck Sketching BSL, or can you Sketch more than one person and choose between them?

In fact, please refresh us on your sketch ability in general.

 

[BSL]

Mafia and not mafia. Indy is not mafia. OS just trolled town hardcore style. Lynch me.

 

[BSL]

Proves I am scum? Why isn't your vote on me?

 

[vanderzant]

@DH: Start at page 36 (40 ppp obv) and read my other posts please.

I'm losing interest in this game tbh. I gave all my thoughts and said what we should do, but largely feel ignored (except for that odd buddying by J). And now people are calling me scummy for no reason, or questionably at best wtf?

Can't we just hurry up and decide on a lynch already >.<.

I don't like Swiss either. So scummy it hurts.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Proves I am scum? Why isn't your vote on me?

I'm waiting for an answer from GLG on whether or not he has to sketch you toNight. And if the answer is no, then he'll need time to sketch someone else. Hence the waiting.

Vand, why are you so antsy? Go a-scumhunting.

 

[Swiss]

+ 1 on 'what does sketching actually do?'

We can have J hammer DH, and depending on the flips, have rPSI shoot either Vanz or Nabe. I'm leaning Nabetown, Nabe will be confirmed town if BSL flips scum. So shoot Vanz.

 

[Swiss]

But unless someone can explain me to me how the **** DH could be scum - we'll just lynch J.

Let me do some maths, we could probably lynch him toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

But unless someone can explain me to me how the **** DH could be scum

The only real reason is that i'm a roleblocker. Some people (like vand) don't believe that there are two town roleblockers, even though we're not the same type of roleblocker.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

My only problem with DH staying alive is that if he is scum RB, he knows every role in this game that needs blocking. It's precautionary if anything.

Swiss, how would you feel about Vand hammering DH, BSL tracking you, GLG sketching BSL, and J getting shot? That leaves you/me/GLG/BSL/InCom assuming rPSI gets mafkilled, and finding the remaining scum should be trivial. Ideally, J would hammer DH, but he's made it very clear that he won't be here.

@Vand: if you're town and losing interest in this game like you say, then this plan should satisfy you as well. DH still goes.

@ GLG: What happens if you sketch a Mafia Goon? Do you get their killing ability?

I visited Tandora simply because she alluded to having a Power role, yet I didn't trust her saying she was town.

This, for the record, is MK admitting that he visited Tandora Night 1. Meaning BSL really is a tracker. Scum tracker to find PRs? Could clear DH.

I'd still like to lynch DH, though. The problem is that without a tracker, we have no one to police DH at Night. So if it's DH/BSL, I'd like DH to go first.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Don't assume I'll die toNight.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Sketch: Use targeted player's ability on targeted player.

Ie: If I target Are-Sigh then I kill Are Sigh. I can't pick a new target, nor do I get to use it every night.

I will be open up to target other players, in fact...

The only real reason is that i'm a roleblocker. Some people (like vand) don't believe that there are two town roleblockers, even though we're not the same type of roleblocker.

Sketch.

But unless someone can explain me to me how the **** DH could be scum - we'll just lynch J.

Let me do some maths, we could probably lynch him toMorrow.

Sketch.

@DH: Start at page 36 (40 ppp obv) and read my other posts please.

I'm losing interest in this game tbh. I gave all my thoughts and said what we should do, but largely feel ignored (except for that odd buddying by J). And now people are calling me scummy for no reason, or questionably at best wtf?

Can't we just hurry up and decide on a lynch already >.<.

I don't like Swiss either. So scummy it hurts.

Sketch.

 

[vanderzant]

But glg how are you targeting like 3 players then?

I'll hammer if J isn't around and we wouldn't rather just lynch J and shoot DH.

Just make sure we lynch Swiss if it's LYLO

 

[BSL]

heads up for anyone who doesnt remember.

ill be V/LA from saturday to friday (11th to 17th) because of exams/studying. i may be able to squeeze a post or two in, but nothing substantial or worthwhile. ill try to keep up as best as i can.

 

[vanderzant]

Oh and Nabe scum hunting is pointless at this stage. At least by looking at motives and connections. Seph and Zen really didn't do anything. Getting rid of the claimed roleblocker/bomb and claimed miller is really the best option no matter what way you slice it.

 

[Swiss]

Oh and Nabe scum hunting is pointless at this stage. At least by looking at motives and connections. Seph and Zen really didn't do anything. Getting rid of the claimed roleblocker/bomb and claimed miller is really the best option no matter what way you slice it.

DIE DIE DIE DIE

I reeeeeeeally wanted to think you were town.

WTF IS THIS.

 

[vanderzant]

^ Lol cos you've really scum hunted this game haven't you swiss

 

[Swiss]

^ Lol cos you've really scum hunted this game haven't you swiss

Seph, Zen, MK, Xatres have been my top scum picks. I was right in three (dropped Xatres when he claimed).

Don't get mad just 'cuz you lack that extra 'je ne sais quoi' as scum.



Now let me finish working on operation do-exactly-as-Swiss-says-and-win.

 

[vanderzant]

I'm just mad cause Cello's dieing breath was "Kill DH and Swiss" yet you're saying the exact opposite and no one seems to notice.

 

[Swiss]

Yeah well Cello isn't here to admit he was wrong.

 

[Swiss]

Quick notes.

1. giraffelasergun TOWN
3. Inferiority TOWN
4. Dark Horse TOWN
5. Nabe
9. J (MUST DIE BEFORE 5 MAN)
11. RocketPSIence TOWN
12. Vanderzant
13. Swiss TOWN
16. BSL


2 scum, 5 man




5. Nabe
9. J (MUST DIE BEFORE 5 MAN)
12. Vanderzant
16. BSL


Lynch J. (8)
Shoot Vanz/Nabe. (7) maf kill (6) If flips town Lynch other.
If scum lynch BSL.

GLG sketches Vanz/Nabe. The other gets tracked.


Lynch Vanz. (8)
If Vanz scum shoot BSL, if town shoot Nabe. (7) Maf kill (6).
GLG sketches ?

I like the second plan more. Much more.

Let me finish my read, I've skipped the last 10 pages.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Vand I'm not targeting all three i'm just giving myself the option to target them.

 

[vanderzant]

Swiss you forgot the part where you explain why. All you've done is say "ok guys, I re read yep these players are town and these players aren't scum."

For starters:

Why is Nabe scum?

Why is DH not scum.

Gogogo

 

[vanderzant]

Oh and for ****s and giggles why am I scum?

 

[Swiss]

DH is willing to die. If he were scum he would AT LEAST have pushed for someone other than J to hammer him, because he is a BOMB. He is willing to DIE and REMOVE scum's backup lynch? He didn't even roleblock last night ffs, what scum does that?

He is PAINFULLY obvious as lost town.

One of you/Nabe is scum because I say so. I'm sure I had some reasoning around here somewhere.


Also, GLG, do NOT tell us who you are sketching toNight. Why? Because if scum want to NK, they have to risk being sketched (and as such NK'd) by you. O hai scum u riskin' it? LOL NO. Well, maybe. I don't mind either way.


InCom needs to goddamn post and tell us his results. Even better, we can request a replacement. Cello will happily replace in.

Also whoever suggested there might still be an indie alive is a total idiot.


I think it's highly likely that the last two scum lurk in Vanz/Nabe/BSL. Easy win.

inCom>rPSI>GLG>DH.

Order of confirmed townyness. FYI.

Now let me finish my re-read in case all this is wrong.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Quick notes.

1. giraffelasergun TOWN
3. Inferiority TOWN
4. Dark Horse TOWN
5. Nabe
9. J (MUST DIE BEFORE 5 MAN)
11. RocketPSIence TOWN
12. Vanderzant
13. Swiss TOWN
16. BSL

Minor nitpick, the mod votes can't kill. He won't automatically be killed.

Vanz, you're starting to fasten -*coughcoughcoughcough*-ey (saying "it's too obvious he's scum, there's no doubt, etc etc.) and looked what he flipped.

 

[Swiss]

DH, if he is alive in 5 man LyLo (and we somehow don't hit either scum by then) this means that scum can quickhammer J (if he's town, which he is) for the win.

It actually doesn't really matter when J dies if we lynch/shoot a scum toNight. Considering we have two townies capable of shooting and a cop result about to come through, we can deal with him.

 

[Overswarm]

Incom has requested a replacement.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Right.

My bad >_>

Also, in my last post, "fasten" should be "dastrn"

 

[vanderzant]

Oh the indy shenanigans was me.

I thought that rPSI might of been a SK, but totally forgot the fact that Cello investigated him.

Lol at no one picking that up... Not even rPSI

DH didn't roleblock anyone because town told him not to and he would of seen that BSL was tracking him regardless.

And we don't even know if his bomb thing works how he has claimed.

 

[vanderzant]

MY PLAN OF PRO TOWNIE BROWNESS

Kill these scummy *****s
-DH
-Swiss

Kill this guy so game isn't over if we mislynch
-J

I don't ****ing know anymore
-BSL

Replace this townie brown
-InCom

Don't lynch these Townies
-Whoever I didn't mention

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

DH didn't roleblock anyone because town told him not to and he would of seen that BSL was tracking him regardless.

I had no idea that BSL was tracking me, knowing that he was tracking me was not why I didnt roleblock. Everyone telling me not to is a valid reason IMO.

 

[Swiss]

@ Mod who is replacing in? Not Kat....please

@Vanz - explain why DH aint confirmed town I might be pissed but WTF U MAD? LOL DONT TRY IT. U wanna get lynched? LOL U MAD? U MAD BRUV?

Cello, please replace in and admit you were wrong. I don't want to believe Vanz is scum, but he is.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I'll kill off J toNight if he can't hammer/something goes wrong. But like. Killing Swiss toNight if something else happens.

 

[vanderzant]

...because auto assuming that a claimed Roleblocker/Bomb is confirmed town is ridiculous? Please tell me you at least see the logic in this.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Well, I'm excited to see InCom get replaced, since then we can hear that cop report and put this day to bed.

I've been busy with family stuff, but just checking in to let everyone know my current view of the plan, assuming that Swiss refuses to hammer DH:

We lynch J. rPSI shoots Swiss. DH RBs Vand, BSL tracks DH, GLG sketches BSL. Me and I assume Kat sit around and play chess idk.

@GLG: In your best estimation, would sketching a Mafia Goon result in that Goon's death?

 

[giraffelasergun]

@GLG: In your best estimation, would sketching a Mafia Goon result in that Goon's death?

Yes, unless os decides to be weird and consider Goon Kill not to be an ability.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Also, GLG, do NOT tell us who you are sketching toNight. Why? Because if scum want to NK, they have to risk being sketched (and as such NK'd) by you. O hai scum u riskin' it? LOL NO. Well, maybe. I don't mind either way.
.

Swiss I'm sketching italics