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[Swiss]

Millers always show as 'guilty' or 'mafia' to investigations. He also confirmed I did not lie about my character.

Do you have your investigation result?

 

[giraffelasergun]

It seems like everyone is confused about GLG's role even though he's stateed it multiple times and I'd just like to confirm this. GLG your sketch thing is when someone uses an ability, you get to use that ability on the person that used it correct?

Correct, and it has no affect on their ability.

Gova, do you have info on incom's targets/results etc.?

 

[giraffelasergun]

NVM I pmed OS about it and I didn't get the pm stating my action on nabe failed.

 

[BSL]

1. Your "evidence" is simply twisting my point an using it as a point. Strawmanning in a nutshell.

2. I actually don't think there's a difference between the roles in terms of stopping them: you would have to target the hitman or the person sending in the kill.

You said that sketching was pointless until there was only one mafia member left. Correct?

You said this was because you might sketch the wrong guy and nothing would happen. Correct?

This logic applies exactly with roleblocking, which, by happenstance, is your role. I am not twisting your point. I'm saying that your point makes no sense whatsoever.

I don't reverse. If I target the killer they would still kill their target.

Thanks for clearing that up. But my point still stands. DH's logic for not sketching is stupid. You have a chance of missing, so just don't do it? Lol.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

You said that sketching was pointless until there was only one mafia member left. Correct?

Yes

You said this was because you might sketch the wrong guy and nothing would happen. Correct?

Yes

This logic applies exactly with roleblocking, which, by happenstance, is your role. I am not twisting your point. I'm saying that your point makes no sense whatsoever.

You are here.

You haven't explained how trying to rb the nk is pointless and how it proves your point more. All you've done is replace "sketch" with "roleblock", and say that my point is horrible

You have a chance of missing, so just don't do it? Lol.

And now you're using appeal to ridicule. Your point doesn't stand at all.

 

[BSL]

Replacing sketch with roleblock DOES explain how it is pointless because THE REASONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME. That's why I replaced sketch with roleblock.

 

[BSL]

Again, I'm not twisting your point. If I was twisting your point, I would be trying to convince town that you are also trying to say roleblocking is pointless. I'm not. I am trying to discredit your point.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I know, and I agree that trying to roleblock the nk is poointless.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I know, and I agree that trying to roleblock the nk is poointless.

So we should let the scum kill us even though we can potentially stop them/kill them in the process?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe, if I were to flip town, what alignment is Vanz? Same question to Vanz about Nabe. What does this imply of BSL?

If you're town, Vand is scum. As for BSL, I could see him as scum with either of you. Where I'm really evaluating BSL is in the results from toNight's actions.

That's why GLG needs to be on BSL. If BSL tracks DH and GLG sketches BSL (meaning GLG tracks BSL) we'll have a big ol' chain of events to look at and we can move back to the Day scumhunt with new info.

 

[Gova]

Ok, well good news then /sarcasm

InCom didn't use his one shot cop so I still have it which is why I think DH should die. Preferably with Swiss hammering but I don't know if numbers will allow this.

 

[Swiss]

You totally failed to explain why DH should die.

He is town.

I've also just realised GLG might get my mod info, which we will confirm me as town. What scum needs info saying that Shadow isn't mafia? None. They'd know the scum team.

Investigate the one of Nabe or Vanz that rPSI doesn't shoot toNight.

 

[Gova]

If he's scum he will RB me making me waste my one-shot cop.

 

[Swiss]

If you get roleblocked then that outs him as scum anyway.

 

[BSL]

I know, and I agree that trying to roleblock the nk is poointless.

....then why argue with me....?

 

[BSL]

You totally failed to explain why DH should die.

He is town.

I've also just realised GLG might get my mod info, which we will confirm me as town. What scum needs info saying that Shadow isn't mafia? None. They'd know the scum team.

Investigate the one of Nabe or Vanz that rPSI doesn't shoot toNight.

How do we know you actually got that info in your PM?

 

[Swiss]

BSL, when he sketches me he may get said information, then he will know.

Other than Umaro actually being town, rPSI clearly not being mafia and w/e my 3rd piece of info was I can't actually confirm I'm not just guessing.

My point is if GLG does get my info, I'm brownie townie.

 

[Swiss]

^ Cyan Gyaraminde kills the psrson who hamemrs him.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

It's not just hitmans, no. I'm saying we don't actually know the scum set-up. I'm also saying that GLG will NOT be saying who he sketches.

GLG sketches Vanz, DH blocks Nabe (or the other way round, I don't care). BSL tracks whoever.

You're directing GLG's sketch in the same post that you say GLG shouldn't say who he's sketching.

"But Nabe," you'll protest, "I said or the other way around, meaning it's up to him which of the two he chooses."

But you've also told DH to target whoever GLG doesn't. So if GLG can't tell DH who he's targeting, the whole plan can't possibly take place.

You also haven't put any thought at all into who BSL tracks? Even though he's the only one of the three who we know for a fact has the ability they claim to.


After we get Gova's cop result, I'm going to say what my ideal plan is for toNight. When I do, I want you to either tell me it's good, or give me reasons why it's not. Okay? Okay.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Oh lol, ninja'd by 20 posts. One sec.

 

[Swiss]

You skimmed.

Plus I change my plans loads - what's your point?

 

[BSL]

BSL, when he sketches me he may get said information, then he will know.

Other than Umaro actually being town, rPSI clearly not being mafia and w/e my 3rd piece of info was I can't actually confirm I'm not just guessing.

My point is if GLG does get my info, I'm brownie townie.

We have to wait for GLG. Your examples are both town people. Which means mafia knows that.

Nabe, Gova has no cop result, as incom didn't use it.

 

[Swiss]

We have to wait for GLG. Your examples are both town people. Which means mafia knows that.

Which is what I said.

Do you understand what is happening in this game?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

BSL, when he sketches me he may get said information, then he will know.

Other than Umaro actually being town, rPSI clearly not being mafia and w/e my 3rd piece of info was I can't actually confirm I'm not just guessing.

My point is if GLG does get my info, I'm brownie townie.

Oh my gosh this is so ******** are you ********

Here's my ideal plan. Tell me all the reasons you don't agree with it, and please ensure that they're logical.

DH targets Vand or me, that's entirely up to him and he can keep it to himself.
BSL tracks DH so that he can tell us who DH chose.
GLG sketches BSL so that he can assure us that BSL targeted DH.
Gova cops and chooses anyone she likes, aside from Swiss who we know to be either miller or mafia.
rPSI shoots Swiss.

 

[Gova]

Who would we be lynching today then?

 

[giraffelasergun]

I've also just realised GLG might get my mod info, which we will confirm me as town. What scum needs info saying that Shadow isn't mafia? None. They'd know the scum team.

if by info you mean "100% miller otherwise vt" and by might you mean "not at all" then yes i might get info confirming your townness.

 

[Swiss]

^ J.

GLG sketching BSL is retardumb. He's already said he's sketching me and I might go into toMorrow as CONFIRMED TOWN. This is why rPSI is not shooting me. That and if I'm scum I may die.


Gova cops one of Nabe or Vanz, NOT ANYONE ELSE.

 

[giraffelasergun]

I was being sarcasting when i said I was targeting you, I'm not going to post who I'm targeting.

 

[Swiss]

if by info you mean "100% miller otherwise vt" and by might you mean "not at all" then yes i might get info confirming your townness.

Rephrase this into English.

Or just shut up.

Either.

 

[giraffelasergun]

The mod information I get is "your action failed".
My action failing only clears that you did absolutely nothing on that night, it does not mean you are a miller or anything of the like.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

^ J.

Yes.

GLG sketching BSL is retardumb.

Explain why.

Gova cops one of Nabe or Vanz, NOT ANYONE ELSE.

That's fair, except that it also sets Gova up to die. Gova should not tell us at all who she's targeting, aside from the fact that it can't be Swiss or rPSI, who Cello already copped. This gives scum less overall motive to kill her.

 

[Swiss]

I was being sarcasting when i said I was targeting you, I'm not going to post who I'm targeting.

What the ****.

Target me as I can be confirmed town toMorrow and YOU WILL NOT TARGET THE PERSON WHO RPSI SHOOTS as this removes our chance to have you kill a scum.

It actually pains me to see so many townies playing so badly.

 

[#HBC | J]

Yaaaay I can be on for 2 hours. Any questions for me? If we are lynching me we can do it now because I am gonna be back and forth within this thread. I'm at oh what is it now L-2? Someone put me at L-1 then i'll hammer.

Gova *hug* hiiiii man I wanted to play a game with you but now I gotta die ;-; My vote is cop Nabe because I'm pretty sure Vandy might be town.

TownJ
GLG
Gova
rPSI
Vandy

Meeeeeh
BSL

No likely (prob scum)
Nabe
Swiss

Kupo!

 

[Swiss]

If Gova doesn't die then we still have a VIG alive who can try to shoot scum AGAIN.

The ability to track BSL is imo useless when it cna be used on you or Vanz. Simples.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

We're not lynching until we have a plan set out. It's cool that you're here though.

Gova, clear this up for us: your gender is ?

 

[#HBC | J]

Gova is a dude.

Stay relevant Nabe =P

Kupo!

 

[Gova]

Male lol

10 lols

 

[Swiss]

Vanz is playing terribly if he's town, J. You see nothing odd?

You do not need to self hammer, we can hammer you. Give us more time toDay.

Other than that your list is correct.

 

[#HBC | J]

Vandy is town to me and he was Cello's right-hand man.

You honestly could move Vandy to meh if so pleased but that is just my opinion at the current time.

Kupo!

(p.s. get on aim Domo-kun )

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

If Gova doesn't die then we still have a VIG alive who can try to shoot scum AGAIN.

Fine. Let's put all our eggs in one basket, why not.

Gova cops me or Vand.
DH blocks me or Vand, BSL tracks DH, GLG sketches BSL, rPSI shoots Swiss.