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DOUBLE POST OF JUSTICE!
Yeah, no offense taken man, I'm just trying to defend my hosting ability a little bit.
You missed an eyesore of johns. Have fun reading 2 pages of people *****ing =D
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Wafles,
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... paid for stuff? Spikes had to use all of his $900 pepsi sponshorship to run this, you guys paid $5 each, the fact that you paid 1/180th of what Spikes paid really doesn't compute to me as backing for your argument. I'd like to take this time to say this was beautifully ran, and hopefully all the negative comments do not defer an excellent TO like Spikes to run more tournaments
23 hour drive to play brawl johnsThe best from the NE will be there.
No Johns
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You got a first seed in pools and you beat rofa.
The TO alone doesn't make a good tourney, the attendees are a part of that equation. I'm sorry if I missed the point where people got angry but Razor and the others can work that out themselves, I'm just saying it goes both ways and he has the right to bring his opinions to the table. If you don't want people to complain then just work it out better for your next tourney.
All I have to say is, you can seed pools by location or brackets by location, but trying to do both will not work. It is as simple as that, I'm sorry if that's really that hard of a concept.
actually, you're where i got the 23 hour drive stuff from and what i semi base that statement on
Basically what i said b4, poks and brothers think too much alike
Gary, FBT7 shall be Fudge But **** Tentacles, since 7 is the "1337" t
im late to the thread but i guess im obligated to respond to this 
Well, Wisconsin brawl scene is dead because of a bunch of immature jerks, I'm ****ing 13 and it seems that I'm one of the only people that can appreciate the time and effort that spikes and wafles put into this tournament. Thank you to all the people that didn't even attend take out Wisconsins best host, GG.D: RIP 18spikes
There was not a 64 man bracket because less than 64 people entered. Eliminating 27 people based on how they perform in 8 pools of 7-8 people is SIGNIFICANTLY more fair and efficient than arbitrarily giving 5 people byes in a giant bracket. We had 15 setups going and a 64 man bracket starts with 32 matches. That is very difficult to keep smooth. If a match gets neglected it causes huge delays when people on both sides of the bracket are waiting for the results of an early match. Furthermore, giving people a pity bracket advancement is redundant as far as efficiency is concerned. This is why I chose to use the extra time originally scheduled for the 64 man bracket on teams pools instead. There were 21 teams and whittling that down to 16 was far more productive than throwing everyone into a randomly seeded 32 team bracket with 11 byes just so everyone could get another pity try in singles. Perhaps this will help you see things from the TO's perspective instead of your own; I announced many times that top 4 were going through to a 32 man bracket, and I doubt it's a coincidence that the "issue" of a 32-man bracket was brought to my attention only after pools finished and some oos'ers were eliminated.
On the subject of pools, you have to understand that I don't know many brawl players. I'm terrible at Brawl so I'm not quite as savvy when it comes to memorizing what players are from what state. That is why after reading off the players in every single pool, I asked over the microphone if there were any problems with that pool. We re-shuffled pools 3 times and then started manually moving players. If you didn't come up and tell me there was a problem with your pool then you seriously have no excuse. Also even though I wasn't the person you asked about the teams pools, I probably also would have told you that it was not a big deal. We shuffled the pools once because one pool was literally ALL Wisconsin, but beyond that I wasn't terribly concerned with the teams pools. Seriously, only one team got eliminated per 5 team pool, and that's a lot more generous in terms of match variety and placement fairness than the random bracket you expected coming in the door. I can't imagine how many more angry posts I'd have to put up with if we actually did do a random bracket. Oh well. You give people an inch and they take a mile.
And that right there is the reason I am now just so disappointed in the Brawl community. I'm not even going to talk about how much effort I personally put into the tournament -- effort doesn't really add up to anything objective when it comes to TO. But everything was right there for all of the players -- an overnight tournament in a giant venue in a reasonably accessible location with a huge pot bonus and free drinks all for only $5 (or free with a setup). All that drew only 59 people? Where the hell is the community? And from what I can tell from the passive-aggressive essay I quoted above, the only problem with the organization itself was that there were like 5 sets (of several hundred) where a state played itself. That doesn't sound too bad to me. Yet I have people that couldn't bring concerns up to my face running around on the internet calling this a terribly run tournament, and children that didn't even attend insulting my entire state. Why should I put up with this immaturity to please such a small community? There's no real answer for that, and that is why this will be the last Brawl tournament I ever run. There's just so much more I have to offer this community than what it can appreciate.
P.S. June 6th is the quasi-confirmed date for a melee-only tournament at UWO
wafles, youve got the tio, get a results thread up so i can leave shouts to the cool people
First of all, pools should've determined the seeding and there should've been a 64 man bracket. The 5 byes in singles would've been given to the 5 highest placing people in pools, so it wouldn't have been random at all. Brackets were interesting, I heard, because THREE OF FOUR MO PLAYERS played each other. This was especially interesting because according to seeding from pools, Jordan (from MO) was set to play Hunger (from WI), but that got switched so that Jordan had to play ASC (from MO). I'm not really sure why this happened, but the fact that pool seeding was ignored made no sense - why did pools even happen then?!
Pools weren't set up well according to skill. ASC (my doubles partner from MO), went 12-0 in his pool; he's not good enough to do that in a balanced pool. Jordan, 1/2 of Team Real Team (which got third in doubles) BARELY made it out of his pool, scraping by with 4th. His pool had Hunger, Scythe, and Wafles from WI (who are all good players) and Jlo and Blank from IA (who are also good players!).
I already said in my last post that I suck at Brawl and don't know much about the community. That's why I specifically asked over the mic if there were any problems with each pool as I read them off. I heard no complaints after the 4th or so reshuffle so we started playing. I really don't know what more a TO could possibly be expected to do in such a situation.
