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Fate/Mafia --- ENDGAME: Town Victory: The Dragon Slayer's Judgement

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Vote: Coricus

You used a night action on the mayor yet aren't the doctor, then claimed that you are the Witch of Betrayal... You're fishy, girl.

If you mean Roleblocker, then it's highly unlikely she is.
And if she is, she needs to go.
No, I mean Rule Breaker. That's the name of her dagger.

It acting as a Rolebreaker is both a nice play on words and fitting with what it's capable of.
 
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....there are a plethora of roles that target that aren't just killing and protecting.....
I'm just saying, a lot of the roles wouldn't necessarily "prove her innocence" like she said.

If she's a roleblocker, it'd be pretty pointless to use it on the mayor. Serial killer? Z25 would be dead. Reviver? Couldn't exactly revive someone alive. Cop? That's praline. Jailer? That's Shiny. Couldn't be mayor of course lol etc etc

Just in general, if she's not doctor then I don't have a clue who she could be. but idk that's probably because this is only my third mafia and I've only seen like 12 different roles lol
 

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If you mean Roleblocker, then it's highly unlikely she is.
And if she is, she needs to go.
No, Stoopid means Rule Breaker.

As in I partially brainwash a rando for three actions at Night at the cost of REALLY coming off like a Mafia.
 
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No, Stoopid means Rule Breaker.

As in I partially brainwash a rando for three actions at Night at the cost of REALLY coming off like a Mafia.
GOD DAMMIT, I AM AWARE HE'S TALKING ABOUT RULE BREAKER
 
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Oh ****. We already lost the cop?
Hey Non, you know we have a reviver? The reviver should hopefully be active and badi-boop, praline is back.
But wait, praline now knows our roles, so she can not be alive.
Meconfused, me need help.
 

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Either I'm a Heel-Face revolving door that hasn't even been notified myself yet, or Shish is deliberately trying to invoke the betrayal motif by getting ME betrayed and/or making it so that if I wasn't a crazy person with no Speech skill who outed themselves on Day 2 I could have been a mole sabatoging the mafia.
Honestly I don't think you're a threat, at least not at the moment. I do have a feeling you might be a third party based on what was said, but it's a bit early IMO to start lynching third parties.

Any chance you can tell us what you did to Z25? If that's undoable, do whatever it was to me tonight. I'll be the guinea pig.
 

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If she's a roleblocker, it'd be pretty pointless to use it on the mayor.
Unless the mayor as a nice night action

No, Stoopid means Rule Breaker.

As in I partially brainwash a rando for three actions at Night at the cost of REALLY coming off like a Mafia.
Three actions?

I doubt any of us have more than one action.
 
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Oh, and before I forget.

Unvote: Coricus

You're off the hook (for now) for being a likely third party. We need to deal with some mafiosos before considering the possibility of lynching a third party.
 
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Unless the mayor as a nice night action
Good point. But if that's the case then Z25 should have gotten a PM saying he was roleblocked, based on how previous mafia games here handled it. So maybe he'll state whether he did or didn't once he sees all these posts lol
 

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Honestly I don't think you're a threat, at least not at the moment. I do have a feeling you might be a third party based on what was said, but it's a bit early IMO to start lynching third parties.

Any chance you can tell us what you did to Z25? If that's undoable, do whatever it was to me tonight. I'll be the guinea pig.
I didn't "do" it per se, I sent the mayor an item. No repeats.

I have two left. One is an alignment check and the other allows you to contact a dead player once. No use hiding those if I'm either lynched or killed, but the mayor's stays a secret.
 

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Hey Non, you know we have a reviver? The reviver should hopefully be active and badi-boop, praline is back.
But wait, praline now knows our roles, so she can not be alive.
Meconfused, me need help.
Praline was killed off though, and as such, she can't say anything, nor like our posts.
 
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Praline was killed off though, and as such, she can't say anything, nor like our posts.
Can the reviver make her back in the game though? I thought they can revive the dead.
I am so confused.

I am about to go to sleep, good night folks.
 

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Can the reviver make her back in the game though? I thought they can revive the dead.
I am so confused.

I am about to go to sleep, good night folks.
You mean like a doctor?

It could happen, but that's up to the doctor to decide (in other words, the doctor may very well decide praline stays dead).
 
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You mean like a doctor?

It could happen, but that's up to the doctor to decide (in other words, the doctor may very well decide praline stays dead).
No, there is a reviver. The reviver can bring the dead back to life I thought.
 

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No, there is a reviver. The reviver can bring the dead back to life I thought.
Oh, then I guess I'm mixing that up with the non-forum version of Mafia.

@Shishœ would probably be the best person to answer your question since he is watching over this game.
 
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Oh, then I guess I'm mixing that up with the non-forum version of Mafia.

@Shishœ would probably be the best person to answer your question since he is watching over this game.
They ( Swamp / Shoe ) already answered it. We need the reviver right here, reviving praline! Then again, the mafia would kill her immediately at night again.
 

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Day 1: I will try to be as secretive as possible in order to hide my identity from the mafia

Night 1: I think this is starting to backfire. . .

Day 2: HERE IS MY LIFE STORY THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT
 

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lowkey going to bed because it's 11 PM where I live and I tire easily yeah i said it all yall tiring smh /s
 

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And you know what? I thought praline was exaggerating when they said they were worried about dying in my pm convo with them. I just thought they were another rando like me.

BUT NO. THEY WERE THE COP. AND NOW THEY'RE DEAD. AND I HAVE NO IDEA -WHY- THEY WERE SO SCARED.

SOMETHING had to have startled them. I know what rattled me, but it was inconclusive. Praline's fear was so much more concrete. They said they hoped we'd both make it to Night 2, but according to this thread they intended to nuke themselves first and C/D my innocence on the way out. I have no idea what to make of it.
 
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No, Stoopid means Rule Breaker.

As in I partially brainwash a rando for three actions at Night at the cost of REALLY coming off like a Mafia.
-sigh-

Sorry for snapping earlier. It's just, both you and Uni seem to not realize I was talking in reference to this:
Maybe an ability to shut down role abilities?
I wasn't speaking of the weapon itself.
That being said....brainwash....? What does that do?

Three actions?

I doubt any of us have more than one action.
....We had a Cop who was also a Suicide Bomber.
That's two actions, Uni.
 

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And you know what? I thought praline was exaggerating when they said they were worried about dying in my pm convo with them. I just thought they were another rando like me.

BUT NO. THEY WERE THE COP. AND NOW THEY'RE DEAD. AND I HAVE NO IDEA -WHY- THEY WERE SO SCARED.

SOMETHING had to have startled them. I know what rattled me, but it was inconclusive. Praline's fear was so much more concrete. They said they hoped we'd both make it to Night 2, but according to this thread they intended to nuke themselves first and C/D my innocence on the way out. I have no idea what to make of it.
Could I ask what time praline seemed to be the most scared? Because I PMd her too and she did seem frightened, but according to the times I might be able to piece why.
 

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Also Vote: Apollo Justice .

You want to be off the hook from me after that strangeness? Earn it. I'll unvote when you either prove your innocence yourself or your friends you mentioned step up to bat for you.
Could I ask what time praline seemed to be the most scared? Because I PMd her too and she did seem frightened, but according to the times I might be able to piece why.
Literally RIGHT before their death. As in Swamp came in to yell at us for talking after time even though we both stopped the minute before the Night ended.
 
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I didn't "do" it per se, I sent the mayor an item. No repeats.

I have two left. One is an alignment check and the other allows you to contact a dead player once. No use hiding those if I'm either lynched or killed, but the mayor's stays a secret.
....this is "brainwashing"?
 

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....this is "brainwashing"?
No, I. . .don't have the best grasp on how to word abilities. This is my ability along the lines of how a cop can check alignments or a jailer can jail.

The brainwashing is essentially my limit break and can only be used once. And it's not really full brainwashing, from what I read I can't tell a person WHAT to do, just WHO to do it to. So it'd take guesswork on what their actions were planned to be to use it in the first place.
 

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Also Vote: Apollo Justice .

You want to be off the hook from me after that strangeness? Earn it. I'll unvote when you either prove your innocence yourself or your friends you mentioned step up to bat for you.

Literally RIGHT before their death. As in Swamp came in to yell at us for talking after time even though we both stopped the minute before the Night ended.
this is a long shot but since I literally started talking to praline in the last few hours and it did last the rest of the phase, it does seem to fit somewhat

I think she was scared because she knew she was screwed. She told me she talked to GoldenYuiitusin. She told him her role. Opossum told him his role as well. And now praline is dead and someone attempted to kill Opossum.

Not only that, but Golden has claimed a role very similar to one I already know. Golden claimed to be able to watch someone and find out who they acted on. The role I know can watch someone and see if they were targeted. Almost the exact same thing. I told her this and she told me that she hoped Golden isn't mafia. The chance that he was mafia could have alarmed her, because the abilities are strikingly similar.

Not only that, but praline did tell me she had a hint about your role, Coricus. She didn't tell me what it was but I assume you and her talked. If praline was willing to out her role as cop to Golden, it's likely that she was speculative on your role and told Golden the hint she had. So Golden knows praline is cop. She's dead. But he also knows a bit about Coricus' role. So what does he do?

He starts the day phase off by suspecting Coricus.

I don't mean to point fingers yet as it is only day 2, but it is really strange how both praline and Opossum went to Golden and the former died, the latter was almost killed...
 
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Like what Uni said, saying "I can fight with a sword" says very little.

No, I. . .don't have the best grasp on how to word abilities. This is my ability along the lines of how a cop can check alignments or a jailer can jail.

The brainwashing is essentially my limit break and can only be used once. And it's not really full brainwashing, from what I read I can't tell a person WHAT to do, just WHO to do it to. So it'd take guesswork on what their actions were planned to be to use it in the first place.
Redirector.
But a one-time Redirector? That sounds unnecessarily restrictive....
 
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this is a long shot but since I literally started talking to praline in the last few hours and it did last the rest of the phase, it does seem to fit somewhat

I think she was scared because she knew she was screwed. She told me she talked to GoldenYuiitusin. She told him her role. Opossum told him his role as well. And now praline is dead and someone attempted to kill Opossum.

Not only that, but Golden has claimed a role very similar to one I already know. Golden claimed to be able to watch someone and find out who they acted on. The role I know can watch someone and see if they were targeted. Almost the exact same thing. I told her this and she told me that she hoped Golden isn't mafia. The chance that he was mafia could have alarmed her, because the abilities are strikingly similar.

Not only that, but praline did tell me she had a hint about your role, Coricus. She didn't tell me what it was but I assume you and her talked. If praline was willing to out her role as cop to Golden, it's likely that she was speculative on your role and told Golden the hint she had. So Golden knows praline is cop. She's dead. But he also knows a bit about Coricus' role. So what does he do?

He starts the day phase off by suspecting Coricus.

I don't mean to point fingers yet as it is only day 2, but it is really strange how both praline and Opossum went to Golden and the former died, the latter was almost killed...
She told me nothing about Coricus' role. Only that she was going to check her. That's why I went right for Coricus.

Also, Tracker and Watcher are similar, but are different roles that exist in Mafia.
I am the former. Who you're talking about (who has told me his role last night as well) is the latter.

Also, they didn't go to me. I went to them. In Opo's case to say a meme and idle chitchat.
ALSO....not only did Opo not tell me what he can do, especially since I never asked, but he claimed he was Cu PUBLICLY the previous day. So EVERYONE knew who he was.
 
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Like what Uni said, saying "I can fight with a sword" says very little.


Redirector.
But a one-time Redirector? That sounds unnecessarily restrictive....
Maybe it has to do with the fact that the items I send can be used by the recipient at will.

Anyone can be an emergency cop, anyone can host an emergency seance. . .and you don't know what the mayor got.

But aside from that. My normal power is Item Constructor A. So SOMEONE other than me can gift items at will, and likely completely different ones.
 

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She told me nothing about Coricus' role. Only that she was going to check her. That's why I went right for Coricus.

Also, Tracker and Watcher are similar, but are different roles that exist in Mafia.
I am the former. Who you're talking about (who has told me his role last night as well) is the latter.

Also, they didn't go to me. I went to them. In Opo's case to say a meme and idle chitchat.
ALSO....not only did Opo not tell me what he can do, especially since I never asked, but he claimed he was Cu PUBLICLY the previous day. So EVERYONE knew who he was.
Good points, good points. I honestly forgot how Opo did make a public claim.

Still, I'm not meaning to accuse you of anything so keep that in mind, but it must be strange for the mafia to get the cop kill night 1 by sheer luck. If Praline only talked to Z25, you, me, and perhaps Coricus, the chances of her in particular being killed are pretty low.
 

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Also Vote: Apollo Justice .

You want to be off the hook from me after that strangeness? Earn it. I'll unvote when you either prove your innocence yourself or your friends you mentioned step up to bat for you
I mean, sure. I talked to Z25, Uni and White trying to look for the cop. What I asked you last night wasn't compromising (see, when Z25 comes he can confirm you proved your role, that's how you do it), but you kept acting superdefensive, so I told them that you looked suspicious and Uni agreed. Actually, it might just been me the one who suspected you in the first place, tried to make you loosen up and talk a bit. That's why later I tried to give you advices on the game.

So that's it, do as you will with your vote now
 

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I mean, sure. I talked to Z25, Uni and White trying to look for the cop. What I asked you last night wasn't compromising (see, when Z25 comes he can confirm you proved your role, that's how you do it), but you kept acting superdefensive, so I told them that you looked suspicious and Uni agreed. Actually, it might just been me the one who suspected you in the first place, tried to make you loosen up and talk a bit. That's why later I tried to give you advices on the game.

So that's it, do as you will with your vote now
Uni does seem to be quick to suspect what I might be up to, but I'll let them confirm this story when they wake up just to be safe. If my pouring everything I know onto the playing field digs up a more likely option before they can respond, I'll unvote earlier.

As it turns out, I'm just extremely bad at trying to not look like a target to any party.
 
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Good points, good points. I honestly forgot how Opo did make a public claim.

Still, I'm not meaning to accuse you of anything so keep that in mind, but it must be strange for the mafia to get the cop kill night 1 by sheer luck. If Praline only talked to Z25, you, me, and perhaps Coricus, the chances of her in particular being killed are pretty low.
Either:

A. Z25 is a Mafia Doublevoter (those exist, people; this is why you all shouldn't be so eager to jerk off the Mayor first thing)
B. You are Mafia. (We know literally nothing about you, so it's possible.)
C. I am Mafia. (Impossible. Praline wouldn't have been my target. Make of that what you will.)
D. Coricus is Mafia.
E. One of us played telephone and word got out she was the Cop (which can't be me since I literally spoke to no one about her role since I was suspicious she could have been Jeanne Alter instead.)
 

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I mean, sure. I talked to Z25, Uni and White trying to look for the cop. What I asked you last night wasn't compromising (see, when Z25 comes he can confirm you proved your role, that's how you do it), but you kept acting superdefensive, so I told them that you looked suspicious and Uni agreed. Actually, it might just been me the one who suspected you in the first place, tried to make you loosen up and talk a bit. That's why later I tried to give you advices on the game.

So that's it, do as you will with your vote now
Woops, because editing is bad, it was the doc, not the cop lol. (I always mess those two up)
 

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Then I can add another fact to it:

I'm associated with dragons.

Is that still too vague?
. . .That has to be the most blatant "Hi I'm St. George" I've ever seen. Admittedly also the only one.

Ooh, and apparently you're also a long-haired pretty boy!

Either:

A. Z25 is a Mafia Doublevoter (those exist, people; this is why you all shouldn't be so eager to jerk off the Mayor first thing)
B. You are Mafia. (We know literally nothing about you, so it's possible.)
C. I am Mafia. (Impossible. Praline wouldn't have been my target. Make of that what you will.)
D. Coricus is Mafia.
E. One of us played telephone and word got out she was the Cop (which can't be me since I literally spoke to no one about her role since I was suspicious she could have been Jeanne Alter instead.)
D. and E. are both false on my end. Praline never said squat about their role to me, and I only spoke with Z25, Apollo, and them that entire Night.
 

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Either:

A. Z25 is a Mafia Doublevoter (those exist, people; this is why you all shouldn't be so eager to jerk off the Mayor first thing)
B. You are Mafia. (We know literally nothing about you, so it's possible.)
C. I am Mafia. (Impossible. Praline wouldn't have been my target. Make of that what you will.)
D. Coricus is Mafia.
E. One of us played telephone and word got out she was the Cop (which can't be me since I literally spoke to no one about her role since I was suspicious she could have been Jeanne Alter instead.)
I honestly agree with point A lol

Point D isn't impossible (but I don't think Coricus is suspicious), Point E doesn't seem likely since I don't think any four of us are the type to rattle off about the cop, so that leaves B and C. im hurt :^(

To be honest I still doubt we'd have both a tracker and watcher in one game so IDK if you really wanna call me out then B and C seem just as likely as each other. (plus it is odd how praline, the cop, wouldn't be your target. and if you wanna say that you can't be mafia bc praline wouldn't have been your target I could say the exact same thing too but idk)

okay now i really have to go to bed otherwise I'll just be speculating all night lol
 
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Then I can add another fact to it:

I'm associated with dragons.

Is that still too vague?
Somewhat, but it narrows down enough to a few candidates.
First one that comes to mind is "Mr. Sumanai" himself.
To be honest I still doubt we'd have both a tracker and watcher in one game so IDK if you really wanna call me out then B and C seem just as likely as each other. (plus it is odd how praline, the cop, wouldn't be your target. and if you wanna say that you can't be mafia bc praline wouldn't have been your target I could say the exact same thing too but idk)

okay now i really have to go to bed otherwise I'll just be speculating all night lol

I know something the Mafia doesn't.
THAT'S why praline wouldn't have been my target.

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