Fate/Mafia 2 - ENDGAME: And just let him ****ing die? - TOWN VICTORY

[Deleted member]

Grkh. . .be proud of me. . .Golden-Senpai. . .*dies*

You have made me proud.

 

[Opossum]

Also they were out of parfaits.

 

[vaanrose]

Absolutely nobody vote.

If there's three mafia left and one of them is double voter, that's 4 out of 5 votes necessary just from them.

We are taking out this double voter today.

 

[Opossum]

Now, hang on a second.

This establishes that White and Uni are not on the same team. White is, at worst, third party. They would not claim the same role if they were working together.

And again, White was not one of the double voter candidates.

He still claimed to be a poisoner. That's not someone I want around.

 

[vaanrose]

If White and Uni are not on the same team, it stands to reason Ura is not mafia either. Recharging the poisoner makes no sense in that case.

White needs to get in here and confirm/deny he's got his poison back.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Welp, got taken out due to a shaky claim.

It’s the first Fate game all over again, except I actually died.

So I guess I technically did even worse?

Either way, I’ll be on my way to the graveyard. See ya whenever I feel like ****posting.

 

[Opossum]

If White and Uni are not on the same team, it stands to reason Ura is not mafia either. Recharging the poisoner makes no sense in that case.

White needs to get in here and confirm/deny he's got his poison back.

Theory time: does Ura's recharge ability give the target a double vote as well? Thematically it'd make sense.

 

[vaanrose]

He still claimed to be a poisoner. That's not someone I want around.

We can take the third party out after the double voter. Two more deaths (this lynch and the nightkill tomorrow) put the mafia at the numbers advantage when they have a double voter.

Voting for anyone else is town suicide.

 

[Opossum]

Unvote

For now.

 

[vaanrose]

Theory time: does Ura's recharge ability give the target a double vote as well? Thematically it'd make sense.

Elaborate?

But also, White was not part of the BardulL train.

 

[Opossum]

Elaborate?

But also, White was not part of the BardulL train.

I'm saying, because Ura is a recharger (allowing someone to essentially act twice), could making his target also VOTE twice be a side effect?

 

[vaanrose]

I'm saying, because Ura is a recharger (allowing someone to essentially act twice), could making his target also VOTE twice be a side effect?

Not an impossible option. But if he knew this was one of his powers, he'd tell us if he was town, and I don't think he'd use it on White if he were mafia.

 

[Opossum]

Not an impossible option. But if he knew this was one of his powers, he'd tell us if he was town, and I don't think he'd use it on White if he were mafia.

I'm not saying he left it out purposely, but maybe he just didn't notice it.

Ura
Any chance your refresh gives a double vote?

 

[Natz~]

katts maddness voting tracker~
so everyone can keep track of ****​

know the drill by now, want an update just tag me
No votes

Spoiler: vote log (PST)

ura: votes maven (7:20 pm)
ura: unvotes maven (8:11 pm)
Opossum: votes white (8:42 pm)
uni: votes white (10:26 pm)
Opossum: unvotes (6:12 am)
Uni: unvotes (7:42 am)
Opossum: votes uni (11:19 am)
Opossum: unvotes (12:17 pm)
Opossum: votes white (12:17 pm)
Opossum: unvotes (12:25 pm)

strike outs mean they don't matter for the actual voting but they still remain for history

 

[vaanrose]

BardulL died with votes from

Ura
Praline
Pokechu
Golden
Opo
Myself

I'm ruling myself out because I'm me, but also I'm the one who noticed this in the first place.

Pokechu is out for obvious reasons.

I genuinely believe I have Praline's full role and the idea that the role I need to function is mafia would legitimately ruin the game for me, so I'm putting faith in this one.

If Ura recharged White, that clears him, imo. If the mafia were planning on taking out Pokechu anyway, why not just claim to use it on Chu and not risk allowing a mafia teammate to get poisoned? I'm going to tentatively rule him out.

So I honestly think it comes down to Golden and Opo.

 

[vaanrose]

Wolfie557

This is the most important question of the day. Was your poison recharged?

 

[vaanrose]

Opo had no part in the mafia kill, we can know this for certain, at least. He also has some kind of night action.

 

[vaanrose]

I thought Uni might be a roleblocker, hence him targeting me, but it seems he really was some kind of follower. Unfortunately, that means I can't rule out there still being a mafia roleblocker, because Golden couldn't lie detect White.

There could also be a rolestopper, though, used on White, which would prevent Golden's check and Ura's recharge.

 

[praline]

Hot damn I knew Uni was mafia! You *******!

 

[vaanrose]

I can at least rule out Opo was the mafia roleblocker/rolestopper, because again, redirected on to himself.

 

[vaanrose]

I can't definitively rule out Ura as the rolestopper. Targeting White with his rolestop would show he targeted him if he was tracked while also preventing Golden's check, and Ura could claim to be blocked, too, if White didn't get recharged.

Ura, is, however, eager to hear White's results, too.

 

[vaanrose]

Actually, would rolestop affect Golden? Does lie detector count as using an action ON a player? Since it's used on a message he'd received and theoretically could be used to check the message of a player that's already died. In which case, Golden would need to blocked. Rolestopping White wouldn't cut it.

 

[Deleted member]

So I honestly think it comes down to Golden and Opo.

Simple solution; have only me and Opo vote someone we think is scum.

Assuming you are right, then whichever lynch goes through will expose who the doublevoter is. Then you and praline do your combo tonight.

 

[vaanrose]

Simple solution; have only me and Opo vote someone we think is scum.

Assuming you are right, then whichever lynch goes through will expose who the doublevoter is. Then you and praline do your combo tonight.

No. Not fond of that at all. That's a guaranteed mislynch, as the doublevoter will win. It's much better to pick one definitively over the other and risk only a 50/50 mislynch.

 

[Deleted member]

No. Not fond of that at all. That's a guaranteed mislynch, as the doublevoter will win. It's much better to pick one definitively over the other and risk only a 50/50 mislynch.

Again, that's assuming you are even right to begin with that it's one of us.

 

[vaanrose]

White's liking posts now, I'll wait for his judgment.

 

[vaanrose]

Again, that's assuming you are even right to begin with that it's one of us.

Assuming's gotten me this far.

 

[Deleted member]

If neither of us are the doublevoter, then we're down to a 50/50 mislynch while both of us have proven our innocence on the matter.

 

[Wolfie557]

Ura - Claimed recharger. Refused to recharge Pokechu, despite me strongly insisting.

Unikorn - Claimed follower. Targeted me night one. Pokechu confirmed he targeted me. Yellowlord confirmed he targeted me, too. His results are in line with what I'd expect them to be.

Coricus - Day action. If things go as I expect them to, you'll all know this one before the day's up.

Yellowlord - Claimed tracker. Tracked Uni night 1. I know who he's targeted tonight, but I'll wait for him to show up first.

Golden - Claimed Lie Detector. I gave him my full role details night one, he checked it, found it to be true. I don't know who he checked tonight. Hopefully he got some good results.

WhiteEagle - Claimed one shot poisoner, and that he used it on Nabe night one. Also claimed some unique form of tracking where he can tell how many actions are done TO and BY someone. I believe I know who he used it on.

Praline - This one's unique. Claimed to be able to turn people into dragons, which cures them of poison. An odd one, but I believe it, because...

Vaan - I kill dragons. I'm the Vig, but I can only kill people who have the Dragon trait that Praline applies. I'm also immune to being killed by said dragon, and it appears the people who are given the dragon trait aren't told. Which means, if Praline's and my suspicion is correct, at least one mafiaso can't touch me tonight.

Notice anything missing?

Yeah. Maven and Opossum. I asked everybody if they'd heard anything about these two, and no one had. Nobody has any idea what they can do or what they did night one or two. Both of them fell into my Shiny trap.

And guess what? Seconds, I mean seconds before Pokechu was killed, someone told him not to target Maven.



This after a good hour of back and forth where I tried to convince Chu to redirect Maven on to Opo.

Instead, Chu wanted to redirect Ura to himself to steal his recharge.





And now he's dead as a result.

All this going on and here I am wondering where the **** Wolfie557 is to confirm the recharge.

Get down here White. Please and thank you.

Fortunately, we can prove you acted at night.

@Yellowlord Just need the results of the check.

If you acted at night, imo, it's unlikely you're also a double voter. Not impossible, but unlikely.

Well with that out of the way.

Unvote


Vote: White

 

[Wolfie557]

Wait hold up I'm in a forest that wasn't supposed to happen lmao

 

[Deleted member]

To Hell with it, I'm just going to make my vote and be done.

I really don't care if it's considered "anti-Town" or not. Been feeling a lot of stress the last couple of days and I need to just stop playing for the rest of the irl day.

Vote: Maven

 

[Wolfie557]

I'm also on phone so forgive me for tags.

Just refer to the intended quotes above. 1 is first quote 2 is second and so on.

1. vaanrose
I'm curious who do you think I trapped?

Spoiler

It was yellow. He was the second tracker and didn't know much about him yet not nothing like opo or maven who or planned to deal with later.

I found out that Yellow had one action related to him last night

2 Ura
Sorry guys I went on holiday so was busy getting on plane etc etc.

Yes Ura did recharge me. Thank you very much!

3. vaanrose
Well that proves to me that it was Yellow that targeted someone. Easier than expected honestly...lucky only one action I guess.

4 Opossum
Why vote me?


Thoughts:
The moment I found out unis ability I knew he was mafia. It was simple.
I even went to his pm and said he is mafia and offered to work with them lmao. He wasn't cooperative anyway so I wanted to vote him first thing. Of course mafia didn't take the bait but worth the try XD

@GoldenYuiitusin
Man I was hoping you would put an end to the I'm a 3rd party accusations....
Perhaps someone who knew you would do this blocked you? I think you should give us a list who did know this.

Also like I said Vaan 2 trackers and 2 anti poisoners. One of the antis has to be against me/bardul I believe and therefore mafia.

Which is why I'm so happy Coricus blew up Uni. I had some suspicion of Coricus being mafia but he was in tier C priority anyway so great he wasn't. Proud of you also Coricus

 

[Wolfie557]

Can I also vote I rrly wanna vote Maven too.

 

[Natz~]

Which is why I'm so happy Coricus blew up Uni. I had some suspicion of Coricus being mafia but he was in tier C priority anyway so great he wasn't. Proud of you also Coricus

cori's a girl

 

[vaanrose]

Can I also vote I rrly wanna vote Maven too.

Please don't. I trust you but I want to decide between Golden and Opo.

 

[vaanrose]

Can I also vote I rrly wanna vote Maven too.

You being recharged proves Ura's not mafia to me. So it can only be between Golden and Opo.

 

[Wolfie557]

Please don't. I trust you but I want to decide between Golden and Opo.

Wait why golden? And why opo he is a doc.?

 

[vaanrose]

Wait why golden? And why opo he is a doc.?

Bardul got lynched at only six votes when he needed a majority of 7. We have a double voter.

Ura - Confirmed town by you
Praline - Confirmed town by me
Pokechu - Confirmed town by death
Golden - ?
Opo - ?
Vaan - I'm the one who spotted the double vote in the first place.

 

[Wolfie557]

Well if you are wrong everything has to be re-evaluated

 

[Wolfie557]

Why not maven?