Fate/Mafia 2 - ENDGAME: And just let him ****ing die? - TOWN VICTORY

[Natz~]

@ShinyLegendary can ya invite pokechu to the graveyard please? :V

 

[Ura]

Vote: Maven89

I should have never doubted Vaan in the first place. At least now my role is proven.

Maven has mafia written all over him based on the way he's been acting. Ignoring PM'S and avoiding giving out his role.

 

[Deleted member]

@ShinyLegendary can ya invite pokechu to the graveyard please? :V

I thought I was revived for a second but okay.

 

[vaanrose]

I'm about to out all of you, best prepare yourselves.

 

[Natz~]

I thought I was revived for a second but okay.

sorry lol, i can't tag ya in the pm

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Night Results?

None.

 

[vaanrose]

None.

None, or "No Result?"

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

None, or "No Result?"

"No result"

 

[Deleted member]

At least now my role is proven.

I'm sorry, but how?
The only one who could verify your role is dead. :/

 

[Ura]

I'm sorry, but how?
The only one who could verify your role is dead. :/

I recharged White. He and Vaan can confirm this.

 

[Deleted member]

.....unless I'm being a dumbass and missed part of what was said in a PM I didn't get to read until the Day already started....

 

[Deleted member]

I recharged White. He and Vaan can confirm this.

.....yep, just caught up.

Never mind.

 

[vaanrose]

Ura - Claimed recharger. Refused to recharge Pokechu, despite me strongly insisting.

Unikorn - Claimed follower. Targeted me night one. Pokechu confirmed he targeted me. Yellowlord confirmed he targeted me, too. His results are in line with what I'd expect them to be.

Coricus - Day action. If things go as I expect them to, you'll all know this one before the day's up.

Yellowlord - Claimed tracker. Tracked Uni night 1. I know who he's targeted tonight, but I'll wait for him to show up first.

Golden - Claimed Lie Detector. I gave him my full role details night one, he checked it, found it to be true. I don't know who he checked tonight. Hopefully he got some good results.

WhiteEagle - Claimed one shot poisoner, and that he used it on Nabe night one. Also claimed some unique form of tracking where he can tell how many actions are done TO and BY someone. I believe I know who he used it on.

Praline - This one's unique. Claimed to be able to turn people into dragons, which cures them of poison. An odd one, but I believe it, because...

Vaan - I kill dragons. I'm the Vig, but I can only kill people who have the Dragon trait that Praline applies. I'm also immune to being killed by said dragon, and it appears the people who are given the dragon trait aren't told. Which means, if Praline's and my suspicion is correct, at least one mafiaso can't touch me tonight.

Notice anything missing?

Yeah. Maven and Opossum. I asked everybody if they'd heard anything about these two, and no one had. Nobody has any idea what they can do or what they did night one or two. Both of them fell into my Shiny trap.

And guess what? Seconds, I mean seconds before Pokechu was killed, someone told him not to target Maven.

well, i think i may have gotten intel on maven's role from someone

and i don't think it's something i should redirect

in fact i think it'd be a WASTE of a redirect

This after a good hour of back and forth where I tried to convince Chu to redirect Maven on to Opo.

Instead, Chu wanted to redirect Ura to himself to steal his recharge.

why redirect maven to opo when it'll be my last action this game? ura's 99% not recharging me ever, I honestly think the mafia is someone who has us 100% fooled

so
idk i might just steal ura's recharge

And now he's dead as a result.

 

[Deleted member]

Ura - Claimed recharger. Refused to recharge Pokechu, despite me strongly insisting.

Unikorn - Claimed follower. Targeted me night one. Pokechu confirmed he targeted me. Yellowlord confirmed he targeted me, too. His results are in line with what I'd expect them to be.

Coricus - Day action. If things go as I expect them to, you'll all know this one before the day's up.

Yellowlord - Claimed tracker. Tracked Uni night 1. I know who he's targeted tonight, but I'll wait for him to show up first.

Golden - Claimed Lie Detector. I gave him my full role details night one, he checked it, found it to be true. I don't know who he checked tonight. Hopefully he got some good results.

WhiteEagle - Claimed one shot poisoner, and that he used it on Nabe night one. Also claimed some unique form of tracking where he can tell how many actions are done TO and BY someone. I believe I know who he used it on.

Praline - This one's unique. Claimed to be able to turn people into dragons, which cures them of poison. An odd one, but I believe it, because...

Vaan - I kill dragons. I'm the Vig, but I can only kill people who have the Dragon trait that Praline applies. I'm also immune to being killed by said dragon, and it appears the people who are given the dragon trait aren't told. Which means, if Praline's and my suspicion is correct, at least one mafiaso can't touch me tonight.

Notice anything missing?

Yeah. Maven and Opossum. I asked everybody if they'd heard anything about these two, and no one had. Nobody has any idea what they can do or what they did night one or two. Both of them fell into my Shiny trap.

And guess what? Seconds, I mean seconds before Pokechu was killed, someone told him not to target Maven.



This after a good hour of back and forth where I tried to convince Chu to redirect Maven on to Opo.

Instead, Chu wanted to redirect Ura to himself to steal his recharge.





And now he's dead as a result.

If I had time before the Night ended, I could have relayed what Opo's role was. He told me earlier today.

Trust me when I say you don't want to take him out.

 

[vaanrose]

If I had time before the Night ended, I could have relayed what Opo's role was. He told me earlier today.

Trust me when I say you don't want to take him out.

Then what's the alternative?

All the cards are on the table now.

 

[vaanrose]

It's pretty clear to me we have to decide between White and Uni. They have a very similar role claim.

Uni says he can follow and see yes or no if someone performed an action.

White says he can check how many actions are done BY and TO someone. A far superior version of the same skill. White has also claimed a second skill, something Uni has not done.

 

[Deleted member]

Then what's the alternative?

All the cards are on the table now.

The only option whose cards aren't on the table.


....Maven.

 

[vaanrose]

The only option whose cards aren't on the table.


....Maven.

Yes. But we don't have a one person mafia.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

It's pretty clear to me we have to decide between White and Uni. They have a very similar role claim.

Uni says he can follow and see yes or no if someone performed an action.

White says he can check how many actions are done BY and TO someone. A far superior version of the same skill. White has also claimed a second skill, something Uni has not done.

That second skill is highly anti-town though, being a poisoner.

 

[vaanrose]

That second skill is highly anti-town though, being a poisoner.

Indeed. Which is why I find it so peculiar Ura would not even entertain the thought of recharging Chu but would recharge White.

 

[Deleted member]

It's pretty clear to me we have to decide between White and Uni. They have a very similar role claim.

Uni says he can follow and see yes or no if someone performed an action.

White says he can check how many actions are done BY and TO someone. A far superior version of the same skill. White has also claimed a second skill, something Uni has not done.

You said Yellowlord was a Tracker, right?

Then that's three people with "similar" roles.
I should know; the last Fate Mafia, people kept accusing me of being a liar because they couldn't understand what the actual differences between the roles were.

Before implicating ANY of them, first think deeply on what each claim is.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Indeed. Which is why I find it so peculiar Ura would not even entertain the thought of recharging Chu but would recharge White.

Especially after White claimed to have used his poisoning after night 1.

Why would he recharge someone who claimed a harmful ability over someone who has not one, but TWO highly useful one-shots?

 

[Ura]

I would have recharged Chu had it not been for Nabe's PM misleading me and my doubts on Vaan/Chu. I feel partially responsible for what went down.

Even worse is that my recharge went to a guy I suspected being third party and useful in taking out Mafia.

Regardless, it's pretty clear as day that Maven is Mafia and we need to weed him out.

 

[vaanrose]

I highly suggest not quick lynching Maven.

 

[Ura]

Unvote: Maven89

I feel unqualified to take charge of voting again after what happened and I fully trust Vaan now.

 

[vaanrose]

You said Yellowlord was a Tracker, right?

Then that's three people with "similar" roles.
I should know; the last Fate Mafia, people kept accusing me of being a liar because they couldn't understand what the actual differences between the roles were.

Before implicating ANY of them, first think deeply on what each claim is.

Oh, I have.

Yellow is a traditional tracker. He sees who you target.

Pokechu was a watcher. He sees who targeted you.

White seems to be some buffed form of motion detector, seeing how many actions were done by and to someone.

You called Uni a follower, but that actually feels more powerful than his actual role. All he sees is if you acted or not.

 

[vaanrose]

Especially after White claimed to have used his poisoning after night 1.

Why would he recharge someone who claimed a harmful ability over someone who has not one, but TWO highly useful one-shots?

At this point, please explain your role so I'm not misinterpreting it.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

At this point, please explain your role so I'm not misinterpreting it.

I kinda see it as a weaker version of follower, since it doesn't specify the action itself.

 

[Deleted member]

If it doesn't specify the action, that sounds like Motion Detector.

 

[Maven89]

Christ

I’ll make a post when I get back to a computer. I have a great reason to not role claim, but since Vaan just outed every known PR there’s no longer a reason to not post it

I’m a jack of all trades backup. I gain a one shot when a PR dies, specifically the jailer, tracker and vig. The only person I told this to was Pokechu, who I told not to tell people. Pokechu said Vaan pressures him so he told Vaan someone else told him my role, but that’s not true. I dunno if Vaan was told my role or not.

I have the jail, I have not used it. I can prove it tonight if you guys want. Since Vaan is claiming the vig with the right conditions I can only assume he’s town. He should have really asked for mine and possims role before outing everyone

 

[vaanrose]

I kinda see it as a weaker version of follower, since it doesn't specify the action itself.

It seems based on the result you received last night, it doesn't work the way I expect it to based on my knowledge of it. I need a more precise explanation.

 

[Maven89]

Oh and I’m Merlin, my flavor is I shape shift

If it wasn’t clear, I inherit their one shots after the PR dies, hence the backup

 

[vaanrose]

Christ

I’ll make a post when I get back to a computer. I have a great reason to not role claim, but since Vaan just outed every known PR there’s no longer a reason to not post it

I’m a jack of all trades backup. I gain a one shot when a PR dies, specifically the jailer, tracker and vig. The only person I told this to was Pokechu, who I told not to tell people. Pokechu said Vaan pressures him so he told Vaan someone else told him my role, but that’s not true. I dunno if Vaan was told my role or not.

I have the jail, I have not used it. I can prove it tonight if you guys want. Since Vaan is claiming the vig with the right conditions I can only assume he’s town. He should have really asked for mine and possims role before outing everyone

I told Pokechu I was told your role because I was, but it was a misunderstanding based on Ura misreading your conversation. When that became clear I told Pokechu that as well.

I did ask for Opossum's role. I didn't see much point asking for yours when you obviously didn't trust me, either.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

It seems based on the result you received last night, it doesn't work the way I expect it to based on my knowledge of it. I need a more precise explanation.

Goldie's "Motion Detector" thing kinda nails it.

 

[vaanrose]

Goldie's "Motion Detector" thing kinda nails it.

Then your role is just a weaker version of White's.

 

[Opossum]

We should test Maven tonight. Have him jail a known power townie and see if they get a jail message.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Then your role is just a weaker version of White's.

His seems much closer to a Role Cop, honestly, because it tells how many night actions one can do.

 

[praline]

We shouldn't lynch Maven today. We should figure out another mafia to lynch

 

[Deleted member]

Oh and I’m Merlin, my flavor is I shape shift

....in other words, you give people *****.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

His seems much closer to a Role Cop, honestly, because it tells how many night actions one can do.

But it's not quite Role Cop since it doesn't specify the actual actions?