Fastest Uair OoS, and Easiest perfect wavelands

[CluelessBTD]

Out of Shield Uair:
Uair probably the safest and best Out of Shield option, and it's got decent range in front of you. For you Ganon kids who didn't know, the fastest way to perform this from shielding is to tap up on the C-stick TWICE. The first tap makes you jump, the second tap performs a Uair.

Perfect wavelands:
perfect wavelands are easier to do when you fast fall just before hitting the ground for the same reason that L-cancels are easier when you fast fall. The window of input stretches when you are fast falling. Hopefully this diagram will explain what I mean

The fast falling window has less divisions, therefore it is easier to time the perfect waveland.

 

[-ACE-]

Also fastfalling a DJ (neutral/forward DJ animation) makes perfect wavelands easier than fastfalling a full jump or short hop.

EDIT: Really diggin the artwork, Clue. : >

 

[MoblinMan]

Cool! I didn't know that, and it really helps since I'm working on my platform wavelanding right now. (<---melee noob)

I also am digging the diagram :D

 

[CluelessBTD]

Thx, I put a lot of heart into that drawing

 

[spider_sense]

haha cute drawings. :3

 

[DippnDots]

So, fast fall into a black hole before i waveland. GOT IT.

But seriously, thanks, i didnt know about either of these. And I thought I had plateaued...

 

[KoSa!]

Cool pictures I found it to be very helpful, like I never knew you could tap the cstick up would make you jump.

 

[CluelessBTD]

So, fast fall into a black hole before i waveland. GOT IT.

But seriously, thanks, i didnt know about either of these. And I thought I had plateaued...

Lol, I suck at shadows. Glad to be of service.

 

[4Serial]

i'm not completely sure what this thread is about

but 5/5 for the drawing

sticky this

 

[pockyD]

i really really doubt that tapping up on the c-stick twice is the fastest way to uair OOS, since you have to reset the stick to something resembling a neutral position in between

 

[Renth]

i really really doubt that tapping up on the c-stick twice is the fastest way to uair OOS, since you have to reset the stick to something resembling a neutral position in between

Agreed, I either tap x and immediately up on the c-stick or up on both sticks almost at the same time.

 

[CluelessBTD]

Agreed, I either tap x and immediately up on the c-stick or up on both sticks almost at the same time.

Two points:
1. I think it actually takes a while to move your thumb from X to C-up
2. If you tapped up on the control stick to short hop you would likely sacrifice full horizontal DI, or accidentally full hop.

When it comes down to it, just do what works for you I guess. Maybe it isn't the fastest option for some.

 

[No_Face]

purple ganon represent

EDIT: Just so this post isn't COMPLETE spam, what i use for the shield hop U.air is the X button to jump and A to do the attack. I just tilt the control stick from forward to up and the beginning momentum usually gives me enough horizontal movement to satisfy.

 

[mostwins]

Those drawings are priceless.

very useful advice on the OoS Uair

 

[Hazygoose]

i think that's the greatest image ever.

 

[Bizzarro Flame]

How Great. These things that were not too clear are explained well now

 

[JJfox]

LOL i didn't he remember Up on the C-stick makes you jump. Now I can JOOS Uair! useful

 

[DrewB008]

i read this thread and i thought the double up on the c stick was a really dumb idea

then i tried it and its one of the best ideas ive ever heard, its literally impossible to accidentally up smash out of shield doing it that way, which is my usual mistake

 

[CluelessBTD]

i read this thread and i thought the double up on the c stick was a really dumb idea

then i tried it and its one of the best ideas ive ever heard, its literally impossible to accidentally up smash out of shield doing it that way, which is my usual mistake

Lol, actually I thought it was a dumb idea when I came up with it, I just felt like contributing something to a nearly dead board. I actually don't use it, I'm a hypocrit kind of I guess. I'm just not used to this method.

 

[Mogwai]

I would say the "fastest" way to uair OoS, albeit awkward, would be to hold up on both c-stick and control stick while in shield stun, and then just tap A as soon as you're airborne. c-stick buffers the jump for as soon as you're out of shield stun and control stick + A uairs without having to reset to neutral position.

 

[CluelessBTD]

I would say the "fastest" way to uair OoS, albeit awkward, would be to hold up on both c-stick and control stick while in shield stun, and then just tap A as soon as you're airborne. c-stick buffers the jump for as soon as you're out of shield stun and control stick + A uairs without having to reset to neutral position.

Well yes, assuming you're in shield stun. I've actually thought about using that to get out of shield pressure from fox and falco before.

 

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It doesn't take much practice to get close to frame-perfect uairs oos using Clue's method imo. I like it.

 

[soap]

ganons jump is so slow u can get from the button to cstick in plenty of time. Ive jced usmashes going from y to cstick 2 fast.

buffered jump could be useful i guess since he really needs the extra frames