Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Jab is definitely useful too, so yeah. Add that.
Those are his top five moves.
Those are his top five moves.
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Falcon's Moveset In-Depth Analysis: Week 2 - Falcon F-Tilt
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All wrong.
It's
1. Dtaunt
2. Uair
3. Jab
4. Bair
5. Nair
BigLord
Smash Lord
How the heck did they forget about SMYM?
Utilt is also great. But getting back on topic, who else uses F-tilt for edgeguarding?
Most guys I've played against don't see it coming, even if it's a slow starter... they're expecting me to jump and uair them.
Utilt is also great. But getting back on topic, who else uses F-tilt for edgeguarding?
Most guys I've played against don't see it coming, even if it's a slow starter... they're expecting me to jump and uair them.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Rofl at where Falcon Board's discussions go.
As far as ftilt...
I think I can utilize this in my overall game more, and of course always angle it up.. Use it when you're too far away to jab and not far away enough to safely utilt.
Ftilt isn't too bad overall for Falcon. It's average speed for a tilt. Sometimes I'll go with jab>jab>ftilt instead of a grab to mix things up. Down angled can set up some nasty wall locks, it's just not likely to happen much. Down-angled ftilt x3 > Dsmash is brutal.
-jumbled thoughts- 3.5/5 Knees.
As far as ftilt...
I think I can utilize this in my overall game more, and of course always angle it up.. Use it when you're too far away to jab and not far away enough to safely utilt.
Ftilt isn't too bad overall for Falcon. It's average speed for a tilt. Sometimes I'll go with jab>jab>ftilt instead of a grab to mix things up. Down angled can set up some nasty wall locks, it's just not likely to happen much. Down-angled ftilt x3 > Dsmash is brutal.
-jumbled thoughts- 3.5/5 Knees.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Whoa, wait, what?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Wall lock...
You can lock opponents that fall on the ground (what's the term for that?) but not only is it situational it's also percent dependent.
You can lock opponents that fall on the ground (what's the term for that?) but not only is it situational it's also percent dependent.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Oh, I see. So a good setup for that would be a flubbed knee, if I get you correctly?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
No, when they're flat on the ground lol. They're in a different animation after a trip.
The most practical use would be after Falcon pushes a shielding opponent off a platform.
The most practical use would be after Falcon pushes a shielding opponent off a platform.
mlorenzo
Smash Journeyman
The name for it is Tilt-lock and we should try to footstool more with falcon :D
BigLord
Smash Lord
Interesting... never thought about doing that. Gotta practice!
PS: I footstool a lot when I'm trying to gimp, but it's mostly accidental, lol.
PS: I footstool a lot when I'm trying to gimp, but it's mostly accidental, lol.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
The closest thing I've done to the Fanfus Loop in a tournament match was [on ROB, obv] FH Nair -> Footstool -> FH Nair -> Jab -> Jab -> Ftilt.
Pulling it off on a good ROB is hard though. Samus, probably much easier.
Pulling it off on a good ROB is hard though. Samus, probably much easier.
This reminds me I still havent published the entire list of chars the fhanfus loop works on, lol.
I hope I saved it as a .doc somewhere
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
You should, that would really help. lmao
All I know is ROB and Samus.
All I know is ROB and Samus.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
It works on Marth? I'm going to have to practice that. It won't be too useful against him though since a Marth shouldn't be standing on the ground all that much for it to work.
And approaching him by trying to get a FH Nair is sorta silly. lol
And approaching him by trying to get a FH Nair is sorta silly. lol
Yes, it works on him.
Though the timing is even more strict, as they'll be mashing up b. =P
True.
But FHN's happen in the progress of the game, most of the time.
No need to approach with it, or go out of your way, to get one in.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Oh, I wonder what P3 has to say about this 
You're weird.Oh, I wonder what P3 has to say about this
BigLord
Smash Lord
And proud of it.
P3, you say Marth is Captain Falcon's worst matchup, or at least one of his worst match-ups. Am I missing something here?
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Marth is definitely one of Falcon's worst match-ups at a professional level.
Meta Knight, Marth, Olimar, Pikachu
-; in no particular order.
Meta Knight, Marth, Olimar, Pikachu
-; in no particular order.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Not really.
I got wrecked by one at my last tourney. It was only after the set I remembered you don't play defensive against Snake.
Snakes tilts>falcon
Not to mention the wide variety of strats. and **** snake has up his sleave.
Both long range and close range.
So yes, its safe to say he's heavily underrated here.
I'll give you that, but not that good, either.
Good for you. No sarcasm intendedz.
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I personally think Falco is worse for Falcon than Marth since his physics make him harder to juggle and because his spotdodge occasionally does really gay things to Falcon. Not saying that Marth isn't super horrible for Falcon though.
And people need to use more F-tilt for anti-airs. Aside from say, Bowser's F-tilt, Falcon has one of the best anti-air F-tilts in the game.
And people need to use more F-tilt for anti-airs. Aside from say, Bowser's F-tilt, Falcon has one of the best anti-air F-tilts in the game.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
People here do underrate Snake, but I don't think it's nearly as bad for Falcon as a lot of his match-ups.
†Slader7†
Smash Ace
Good to see this is a MU Thread 
I'll be adding Dtilt info later.
I'll be adding Dtilt info later.
Every thread on this board becomes either MU thread V2.0 or social thread V2.0Good to see this is a MU Thread
I'll be adding Dtilt info later.
BigLord
Smash Lord
^Lol, agreed on that one.
About Dtilt: a very nice move, has good range and at low percents it sets up easy follow-ups. It's also fast if you don't crouch before using the move (if you smash your joystick down and press A, Falcon will crouch and attack. If you just tip your joystick downwards and press A, Falcon will go from standing animation to Dtilt animation).
Not a killer move, not the best Dtilt of the game, but I like it regardless.
About Dtilt: a very nice move, has good range and at low percents it sets up easy follow-ups. It's also fast if you don't crouch before using the move (if you smash your joystick down and press A, Falcon will crouch and attack. If you just tip your joystick downwards and press A, Falcon will go from standing animation to Dtilt animation).
Not a killer move, not the best Dtilt of the game, but I like it regardless.
PZ
Smash Lord
Sorry sir but after an FF aerial I learn you can do a buffered dtilt by hitting down c stick at the end of the frames of the landing lag. Very much like it after FF uair or FF FH nair. Not sure for the timing.
BigLord
Smash Lord
... And you say you're sorry why? I never said the Dtilt was awful. In fact, it's great! I just said it isn't the best.
PZ
Smash Lord
I was correcting you.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
The only time I use Dtilt is:
1.) After a FH Nair, low as it can possibly go, on a floaty character.
2.) After a FH Nair -> Jab -> Jab on the remainder of the roster.
Too much cooldown time and awkward frame-rate to be viable otherwise.
1.) After a FH Nair, low as it can possibly go, on a floaty character.
2.) After a FH Nair -> Jab -> Jab on the remainder of the roster.
Too much cooldown time and awkward frame-rate to be viable otherwise.