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Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

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Let's keep this about Mewtwo and less about whining over Ganondorf.
 
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Igzex said:
Has a low tier character ever really amounted to anything better than mid tier in this series? Like, Ness and Zelda seem to be bad in every game they appear in and I don't think I've ever seen Link not be sup-par. Mewtwo will at least probably rank better than it was in Melee even if it is just an updated version of its Melee counterpart. The slower pace favors Mewtwo more than Melee, Mewtwo's meteor would not scream "Punish me with an Up B cancel", and Mewtwo would be the undisputed throw champion.

It doesn't matter to me anyway because I'm not that big into the meta game. I play zany matches with my friends.
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Yoshi and Ness are top tier contenders in Smash 4 and Mr. G&W went from low tier to upper-mid from Melee --> Brawl, but I think those are the only three (unless you count Sonic as low tier in Brawl). I'd say Mewtwo has a fair shot at getting to the higher tiers if he does end up being based off of Melee. No edgehogging buffs his recovery a lot and kill throws are really useful in this game. The current air dodge will allow his floatiness to be quite as much of an issue as it was in the past since he will be able to do it multiple times and the floatiness will also help him escape from certain combos easier.

All he really needs is is a more useful Confusion + Disable, a better jab and better ground speed and he'll be fine.
 
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Jaguar360 said:
Yoshi and Ness are top tier contenders in Smash 4 and Mr. G&W went from low tier to upper-mid from Melee --> Brawl, but I think those are the only three (unless you count Sonic as low tier in Brawl). I'd say Mewtwo has a fair shot at getting to the higher tiers if he does end up being based off of Melee. No edgehogging buffs his recovery a lot and kill throws are really useful in this game. The current air dodge will allow his floatiness to be quite as much of an issue as it was in the past since he will be able to do it multiple times and the floatiness will also help him escape from certain combos easier.

All he really needs is is a more useful Confusion + Disable, a better jab and better ground speed and he'll be fine.
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I'm going to be as bold to say that Mewtwo needs a complete 180 to be a much better character in this new Smash Day and Age of ours. Because so much has changed in the last couple of years Mewtwo was last seen in a canon Smash Game.

And they are taking quite the time to work on Mewtwo is I do not expect him to play like anything from Melee...now que the people who dispise anything that is not Melee
 
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Deathlightning21 said:
I'm going to be as bold to say that Mewtwo needs a complete 180 to be a much better character in this new Smash Day and Age of ours. Because so much has changed in the last couple of years Mewtwo was last seen in a canon Smash Game.

And they are taking quite the time to work on Mewtwo is I do not expect him to play like anything from Melee...now que the people who dispise anything that is not Melee
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Yes, I do expect quite a few changes to happen to Mewtwo given the development time the dev team is using, but I was speaking under the assumption that he would retain his Melee moveset because that's what the person I was replying to was talking about and that moveset is the only moveset that we truly know.

I don't think that he needs to be completely changed in order to be effective, however. The fact that SSB4 is so different from Melee actually helps Mewtwo far more than it hinders it since Mewtwo was not designed well for Melee's metagame at all. As I mentioned before, the new ledge mechanics, larger blast zones, air dodge and hitstun (defensively) benefit Mewtwo in a variety of ways. It is only hindered by a lack of wavedashing and hitstun (offensively), so I imagine that if you copy paste Melee Mewtwo into SSB4, it would perform much better. He would still need improvement in speed, Confusion, Disable, and his multi-hit moves to be great, but he'd still be fine with a Melee moveset in Smash 4 (not that I want one necessarily).
 
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Sorry, Spirst, but for as long as you use that avatar, Unwritten Rule of the Internets #237 states that you must end all of your messages with "kupo," kupo.
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Good call, kupo. It must've been the dancing Chocobos that threw me off. What Chocobos, kupo? The ones in my head, silly!
 
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I would use a Ganon based on Hyrule Warriors, for that matter. He just looks so badass there.
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I mean who wouldn't, he's so much cooler, I mean who wouldn't want his powerful energy, and his graceful flowing locks, his chiseled jawline and his strong masculine bod......

*AHEM*

So uhhhh..... any news on the Mewtwo front?
 
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We've known this for a while...not up to...

SPEEEED

are we.

:seuss: :troll: :seuss:

jk lol
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...oh.
Oops. -.-;
Anyways, I actually had a dream last night where I had just downloaded Mewtwo. He played very differently then what I was expecting. One of the major things was that his run speed increased over time- as in, he started off slow when you dashed, but then got to around Sonic's speed after about 4 seconds.
 
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Speed said:
...oh.
Oops. -.-;
Anyways, I actually had a dream last night where I had just downloaded Mewtwo. He played very differently then what I was expecting. One of the major things was that his run speed increased over time- as in, he started off slow when you dashed, but then got to around Sonic's speed after about 4 seconds.
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:seuss:

But did he still float when dashing?
 
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In my dreams, Mewtwo uses the Miriam Pultro voice and femtwo mannerisms :3c
 
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Sounded pretty meh if you ask me. Makes Mewtwo feel weak for such a strong Pokemon. Much prefer the Melee voice it had. The voice needs to feel powerful. It makes Bowser's grunts sound good.
 
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I always looked at Mewtwo Y's head as a gamecube drive because of the handle bar
 
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Considering who is on the development team (Bamco), I wonder if Mewtwo's going to have some influence in fighting style from a certain other white and purple creature of battle....
 
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Oh wouldn't it be great if I could pull a Krillin on Pikachu.

Both the fake kill and the real kill.
 
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