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I swear I'll snap the 8-year old's neck who brings that up. Lucario and Greninja are the ones who're redundant, if even them. Mewtwo came first, and is arguably more deserving of a roster spot than those two.
Honestly, I see no reason for people to complain about Mewtwo's inclusion. Why waste the effort when 99% of the Smash players in the world wanted him to return?
Because she sucked in Melee, because she'll just be a Lucario clone, because she's no longer relevant (ignoring a certain stupid creampuff), because the plaintiff is simply a douchebag and unhappy about being wrong. Pick your favorite.
1. Mewtwo will obviously be buffed up and balanced like most of the characters in this game.
I've met far too many
They'd likely be too early on that, and it won't be anything close to a clone anyway.
*You have a new follower*
...Can I give you points for taking an answer to your question as an argument?
It's not really a marketing "fiasco" unless you want to think of it that way, I, personally, see it as a sort of reward for those who purchased each version. In other words the most loyal of Smash fans get something for free, but I respect your opinion and I can see where you're coming from....Can I give you points for taking an answer to your question as an argument?
I just want to see how she plays out, first. And whether or not I'll be able to get her, because after this marketing fiasco there's no way I'm buying this game on Wii U now.
Quite the understatement there, Mewtwo and Lucario are as different as Ike and Marth. Both use the similar methods of attacking (psychic/aura powers), but they use them very differently. Aside from Neutral-B Mewtwo and Lucario don't share any moves, and even in that one move there are slight differences. They get even more seperated once you count in Lucario's aura mechanic. The only reason these two characters have ever been associated with each other is because Lucario was in Brawl and Mewtwo wasn't, it seems that once Brawl came out people forgot everything about Mewtwo's moveset, stats and playstyle.
Omg yes to the max. I actually forgot about what I used to suggest for guessing palettes, but Mirage Mewtwo & Shadow Mewtwo for the spin-off games sounds pretty damn good. the Red Blue Green & Yellow aren't necessity colors for Team Battles because the bordered lines for Team Battle having all 4 of those team colors, but they're original colors that they'll likely be happening.
Oh, no, I'm not referring to Mewtwo with that, and I would rather not go over this with a fine-toothed comb for fear of infecting this thread with far more salt than is healthy, but suffice to say that Sakurai had taken on a task that could have been fulfilled at any point over the past year with three words that he never saw fit to type.
I'd honestly rather not use a costume slot for Mewtwo from ExtremeSpeed Genesect. Part of it, I suppose, is because I grew up with the masculine Mewtwo, and ES Genesect Mewtwo was just so different from what I was used to, from voice to personality. That, and I was never a supporter of Alt. Costumes changing a character's personality. It just seemed weird and off-beat to me. There's nothing wrong with including ES Genesect Mewtwo as a costume, and it wouldn't bother me much at all, but I'd rather not.
I'm sorry I'm not following you... I'm a bit confused, what marketing fiasco were you talking about then?Oh, no, I'm not referring to Mewtwo with that, and I would rather not go over this with a fine-toothed comb for fear of infecting this thread with far more salt than is healthy, but suffice to say that Sakurai had taken on a task that could have been fulfilled at any point over the past year with three words that he never saw fit to type.
Though, I suppose it's still technically not a fiasco because no one's on fire... yet...
I honestly don't see it happening. It isn't relevant to Mewtwo any longer...
Don't ****ING call him a she! HE didn't suck in Melee. You suck. He wasn't top tier but it's the player who decides how good you can be. He can't be a clone of Lucario because Lucario is a clone of Mewtwo in that case. I don't even think Lucario is anything like Mewtwo. They are just two pokémon, have a ball they can charge and they are about the same height. That's like saying Samus is a clone of Mewtwo. You're a troll or an asshole.
Hahahahaha. Troll confirmed.
Relevancy has nothing to do with it.
There must be thousands of haters demanding he be removed already
...dude. He was pointing out what other people might say... ^^; gosh...
Calm down, dude. He was just presenting arguments he'd seen before, not actually supporting him. And he can refer to Mewtwo with a feminine pronoun if he wants to. Just cause you think he should be masculine doesn't mean she has to think so, too. Mewtwo's technically gender less anyway.
There are no words that make it look that way in that post. Except maybe "Pick your favorite". But there's no "apparently" or "they would say" or quotation marks.
No I wont calm down but if he truly was acting as the stupid people who would say those things, then I apologize.
And clearly the art of explanation has flown entirely over your head. I suggest you learn how to tell a statement from a counterpoint before trying to debate.
That doesn't justify your totally over-the-top unnecessary reaction. Even if he was saying that, you should present arguments like a calm, collected person, and try to be respectful, not cuss him out.
WTF are you talking about? You did a very poor job at acting as the Devil's advocate. Learn to write better in such a case.
Hahahahaha! Aren't you a Mewtwo fan? Stop talking **** about me when I'm the one who defend Mewtwo and the fans of him. People who make no sense and who are stupid shall be treated however I want. Nice people shall be treated in a good way. So what do you want?
Overreaction much? And regardless of the argument, what happened to civility? Did that suddenly fly out the window? Eisendrachen hasn't been rude at all, so that gives you no excuse to act the way you are.
Calling Mewtwo a she is totally acceptable. Not only has he had a feminine voice canonically, but he is also gender less canonically. Therefore, any pronoun is acceptable. And, she is right in that Mewtwo's body structure resembles a feminine body structure.
He was rude. Calling Mewtwo female is stupid and wrong. It makes no sense. And he said other stupid crap but then later wasn't his own words so obviously those things do not apply to him now. I'm not over reacting when the guy doing something stupid is saying something crazy to begin with. Why the hell are you too jumping on me for helping? The **** is wrong with you people? Just cause you're afraid to speak your mind freely doesn't mean I can't. You sound like you're old or afraid of your mom. I'm just not understanding what you want.
No. No. And no. He doesn't have ****ing boobs. Are you that stupid? I'm only asking cause clearly I haven't seen many women without boobs! And SHOW ME where it says he doesn't have a gender. And tell me WHY he LOOKS, ACTS, TALKS, and is CALLED MALE by every other person and media I've seen in my life. No you can't. Just stop.
What we want is for you to just be a little less narrow-minded and acceptable of other people's opinions. There's nothing wrong with calling Mewtwo a she, and there is no reason to rudely deride them for their not only OK opinion, but their canonically supported opinion.
In the newest pokemon movie, he's voiced by a female. And the body structure is feminine, notice the hips and shoulders
He's a pokémon... you can't go by his figure... Only if you do I can say he doesn't have female breasts. Those are clearly male breasts. Any pokémon can look any kind of way. Just because he has a wide hip doesn't make him look female. I said show me, not tell me.
1. Calling Mewtwo female is not stupid nor wrong. It's his own thought. It's not like there's a strong canon in the anime anyway.
Since the games are most cannon he/she is gender-less, which means either is correct the only incorrect pronoun is "it" since he is considered either, neither, or both. So everyone is correct as along as they don't say "it".
Then why is it fine if you see him as male if he's just a pokemon? (A genderless one I might add) Most pokemon can be either gender anyway so what does it matter? this is like saying Lucario or charizard are male or female
Swedish_Otaku
: As you've been adamant in pursuing your own special brand of malicious ignorance, I'm going to warn you now: I don't deal with hypocrites any better than I deal with idiots. Argument ad hominem (which is to say, "I think you're wrong, therefore I'll call you stupid instead of making my own points") is poor form and only serves to make you look bad. Which, by the way, you've done spectacularly with no need for my input!