Fact 54 - Mewtwo Is On The Way [Social/General Discussion]

[ミスティック Speed]

I think it would be insulting to have him as a DLC as much as to have him as a Pokeball. I don't know why it's just because DLCs are usually not given much attention and aren't really important.

If he's not in the initial roster, he's not going to be at all. He's far too important to be included in any other way.

 

[strawhatninja]

If he's not in the initial roster, he's not going to be at all. He's far too important to be included in any other way.

If they are having problems with him and need more time, I would have no problem getting him as DLC over not getting him at all.

 

[Supersmashbrothers.]

If he's not in the initial roster, he's not going to be at all. He's far too important to be included in any other way.

Exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Masonomace]

I think it would be insulting to have him as a DLC as much as to have him as a Pokeball. I don't know why it's just because DLCs are usually not given much attention and aren't really important.

You know how hyped then salty I got when I was reading up the Mario Kart 8 DLC featuring F-Zero content via stage tracks AND THE FREAKIN BLUE FALCON BUT WITHOUT THE CAPTAIN HIMSELF?

I then thought, "Maybe some other time. . ." Yeah. . . I'd be grateful if Mewtwo was DLC. If Mewtwo was DLC, people would notice & give a stain about it.

If he's not in the initial roster, he's not going to be at all. He's far too important to be included in any other way.

That's a bit pessimistic Speedster. Mewtwo DLC as a Game Company move is logical & foresee-able imo. If he isn't on the 3DS roster, he would of been held back on purpose to be the top selling DLC. This would occur around WiiU's time however. Don't give up.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

I need Mewtwo!I mean 4/5 of my top 5 in smash hell yes!Mewtwo,Charizard,Greninja,Lucario and Sceptile.

 

[CryoGX]

If they are having problems with him and need more time, I would have no problem getting him as DLC over not getting him at all.

I personally don't like the idea of DLC for the game, but Mewtwo would definitely be one of the few exceptions for me.
as of today, green is my default text, btw

If I've had any doubts whatsoever about Mewtwo in the past, they're gone entirely. If not in the initial release, it could be added later, as DLC hasn't been completely de/confirmed yet.

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Daily Reminder that

MEGA MEWTWO ANNIHILATES NONBELIEVERS!

 

[LIQUID12A]

My hopes are up for a Friday reveal. However, it could just a so easily end up being a reveal for Bowser Jr or Duck Hunt Dog, so I'm worried

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Get out :| mewtwo dosent look terrible greninja does

I meant moveset. Design-wise, I have nothing against

 

[Smashbro596]

Oh my God. Thanks for altering my words. I said it's POSSIBLE Bayonetta could be revealed, along with Mewtwo to coincide with Skyblade's prediction.

*cough* Japanese Direct *cough*
I mean come on, surely that was at least a LITTLE unexpected, right? Sakurai didn't say ANYTHING about it.

Thanks for speaking for all of us, emperor Rabbidz. -_- I personally think Greninja looks pretty cool. He's very original. His tongue is his scarf, he has a pretty unique color scheme...I mean sure, I would rather have Mewtwo over Greninja, but I like both. He's not terrible.

i like greninja tho.... :<

 

[Jade_Rock55]

i like greninja tho.... :<

Me too!

 

[Joeyd123]

My hopes are up for a Friday reveal. However, it could just a so easily end up being a reveal for Bowser Jr or Duck Hunt Dog, so I'm worried

Did they announce a nintendo direct for friday?

 

[LIQUID12A]

Did they announce a nintendo direct for friday?

Nope. Then again, we just had a [japan only] Direct. I think that it'd be a day when a trailer is pulled out of the blue, kinda like Little Mac.

 

[Wise Multishine]

Nope. Then again, we just had a [japan only] Direct. I think that it'd be a day when a trailer is pulled out of the blue, kinda like Little Mac.

Pfft. Well he better hurry up. If Sakurai doesn't put out something soon, massive leaks are going to take over the internet within a week.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Pfft. Well he better hurry up. If Sakurai doesn't put out something soon, massive leaks are going to take over the internet within a week.

Do you actually think that those guys that got access to the full game at PAX would risk their jobs for 10 minutes of fame?

And besides, unless our ESRB jerk took more than what we saw, who else has full access? Nobody.

 

[plumpythepanda]

Leak specifically said 8 alts for each character.

Samus has 8 alts; direct leak support.

This is absolutely on point so that's good. Like even down to the move set.
BUT LUCAS WAS MY MAIN WHAT NOW
OTHER THAN MEWTWO

 

[Wise Multishine]

Do you actually think that those guys that got access to the full game at PAX would risk their jobs for 10 minutes of fame?

And besides, unless our ESRB jerk took more than what we saw, who else has full access? Nobody.

I'm not just referring to those guys, after all, Pokemon XY broke it's street release date by about a week. People were posting gameplay everywhere.

 

[LIQUID12A]

This is absolutely on point so that's good. Like even down to the move set.
BUT LUCAS WAS MY MAIN WHAT NOW
OTHER THAN MEWTWO

First off, hi, welcome to SmashBoards(beat ya @ Masonomace ).

And yes, that leak is becoming more and more true. Sorry for Lucas, though.

I'm not referring to those guys, after all, Pokemon XY broke it's street release date by about a week. People were posting gameplay everywhere.

We still have a month to go for Smash 3DS in the West. How'd XY break it's street release anyway?

 

[Wise Multishine]

We still have a month to go for Smash 3DS in the West. How'd XY break it's street release anyway?

Indeed, but Japan's release is in 10 days. We'll know the entire roster by then. Almost every game breaks it's street release. Simply because you've got people that either work at a video game retailer, people that steal them, or you've got independent video game retailers that sell them to people early.

 

[LIQUID12A]

or you've got independent video game retailers that sell them to people early.

What's independent to you?

 

[Wise Multishine]

What's independent to you?

If you're asking me what independent means, it's commonly a sole-proprietorship, and/or anything that isn't part of a corporate chain or franchise. Small business, privately owned, etc.

 

[DakotaBonez]

So, any good mewtwo leaks lately?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

So, any good mewtwo leaks lately?

Unless you count Vanroose....no.

 

[Wise Multishine]

So, any good mewtwo leaks lately?

Nah, unfortunately. All we've really got is Sakurai's "we're thinking about it" and that 4chan leak with question mark over Mewtwo's face. Other than that, it's all text-only leaks that only mention Mewtwo's name.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Unless you count Vanroose....no.

Who or what is this Vanroose.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

Who or what is this Vanroose.

It's the alternative name to the Ninkata leak.

 

[Arthreeteseven]

I'm worried that if Mewtwo can't be DLC character simply because he doesn't match up with any upcoming releases. AS and OR are Pokemon games but they don't feature Mewtwo in any prominent way. I hope Mewtwo is in the Launch roster because if he isn't I'm afraid Mewtwo has very low chances of being released as DLC.

Imagine how annoying it would be if we got Blaziken DLC but never got Mewtwo in the game.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I'm worried that if Mewtwo can't be DLC character simply because he doesn't match up with any upcoming releases. AS and OR are Pokemon games but they don't feature Mewtwo in any prominent way. I hope Mewtwo is in the Launch roster because if he isn't I'm afraid Mewtwo has very low chances of being released as DLC.

Imagine how annoying it would be if we got Blaziken DLC but never got Mewtwo in the game.

Mewtwo could always be released as DLC to promote ORAS, since Blaziken has no reason to get in over him. I know you're gonna say "well blaziken is oras promotion", but if Mewtwo needs more time and could be timed for ORAS, it'd be perfect.

 

[Arthreeteseven]

Mewtwo could always be released as DLC to promote ORAS, since Blaziken has no reason to get in over him.

The point of the DLC would be to promote some aspect of the upcoming title, so in that sense a prominent ORAS character would have significant priority over Mewtwo.

If the DLC ignores marketing for other games (which I think is unlikely) then Mewtwo's chances would be far more likely as DLC.

However, I am still holding out hope for Mewtwo's inclusion in the launch roster.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

The point of the DLC would be to promote some aspect of the upcoming title, so in that sense a prominent ORAS character would have significant priority over Mewtwo.

If the DLC ignores marketing for other games (which I think is unlikely) then Mewtwo's chances would be far more likely as DLC.

However, I am still holding out hope for Mewtwo's inclusion in the launch roster.

His inclusion at the start is his best and safest bet. I can't deny that unless a remake for Blue/Red/Green/Yellow is done AGAIN...it's extremely unlikely we'll get Mewtwo as DLC. It's all or nothing in the next few weeks.
Luckily, there's a lot going for him, regardless.

 

[Arthreeteseven]

His inclusion at the start is his best and safest bet. I can't deny that unless a remake for Blue/Red/Green/Yellow is done AGAIN...it's extremely unlikely we'll get Mewtwo as DLC. It's all or nothing in the next few weeks.
Luckily, there's a lot going for him, regardless.

Absolutely, and there is still a 50/50 chance that we will get more characters then the leaks have revealed. I firmly believe Mewtwo has the strongest chance of being included if we get any more characters. He/She has been highly requested by fans all over the world since the Sm4sh was first announced.

 

[CryoGX]

I'm worried that if Mewtwo can't be DLC character simply because he doesn't match up with any upcoming releases. AS and OR are Pokemon games but they don't feature Mewtwo in any prominent way. I hope Mewtwo is in the Launch roster because if he isn't I'm afraid Mewtwo has very low chances of being released as DLC.

Imagine how annoying it would be if we got Blaziken DLC but never got Mewtwo in the game.

I believe Mewtwo would become DLC under the situation that they've already began working on it but never finished it, as I doubt they'd let their work go to waste. (Even though I'm making a lot of assumptions right now)

Although, one of the designers managed to squeeze in that extra Zero Suit Samus costume, so if Mewtwo wasn't one of the original characters to be included on the roster, I wouldn't underestimate their dedication to get Mewtwo in there.

Besides, these characters also go somewhat on popularity and demand, especially from Pokemon (This is why Charizard, Greninja and Lucario are all in the game). There is over a literal crap-ton (it's a measurement, apparently) of positives going for Mewtwo, with little to no reason not to have him.

It'd be more unfortunate than logical to not have Mewtwo, if you ask me. ("Unfortunate" includes things like time constraints, too, but I doubt that's going to happen.)

Even moreso, I'm pretty sure that the overall team dedication for this project is craaaaazy high compared to the previous 3, because of a couple of reasons (nowhere near every possible reason)

-Dual-console game
-Characters have been cut before due to restraints; pretty sure they wouldn't allow themselves to do that as easily again.
-(Synergizes with previous point) They'll definitely make sure to finish what they started.

Actually, with that third part being said, I believe the possibilities are that they're working on Mewtwo as we speak, have finished it already, or never decided on it in the first place. Although, reasoning can moreso point to the former possibilities. (I'm expecting to see some Mewtwo within the next 2 weeks)

Absolutely, and there is still a 50/50 chance that we will get more characters then the leaks have revealed. I firmly believe Mewtwo has the strongest chance of being included if we get any more characters. He/She has been highly requested by fans all over the world since the Sm4sh was first announced.

The recent pic of the day that Sakurai showed of All-Star mode boosts the odds to 90/10 if you ask me, as the pic leaked after the original huge roster leak, and essentially implied that the roster isn't finished yet, and given that Sakurai knows about the roster leak and made that POTD about All-Star mode, I'm pretty sure there may be some implication, there. (For those who wonder why people use this evidence in favor of Mewtwo, it's because it almost ensures more characters, and more characters means more chances that one of them will be Mewtwo)

 

[The Quarter Master]

Me too!

Well, I guess I like them both equally. But at this point, I just REALLY want to see Mewtwo.

"Great balls of fire..."

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I believe Mewtwo would become DLC under the situation that they've already began working on it but never finished it, as I doubt they'd let their work go to waste. (Even though I'm making a lot of assumptions right now)

Although, one of the designers managed to squeeze in that extra Zero Suit Samus costume, so if Mewtwo wasn't one of the original characters to be included on the roster, I wouldn't underestimate their dedication to get Mewtwo in there.

Besides, these characters also go somewhat on popularity and demand, especially from Pokemon (This is why Charizard, Greninja and Lucario are all in the game). There is over a literal crap-ton (it's a measurement, apparently) of positives going for Mewtwo, with little to no reason not to have him.

It'd be more unfortunate than logical to not have Mewtwo, if you ask me. ("Unfortunate" includes things like time constraints, too, but I doubt that's going to happen.)

Even moreso, I'm pretty sure that the overall team dedication for this project is craaaaazy high compared to the previous 3, because of a couple of reasons (nowhere near every possible reason)

-Dual-console game
-Characters have been cut before due to restraints; pretty sure they wouldn't allow themselves to do that as easily again.
-(Synergizes with previous point) They'll definitely make sure to finish what they started.

Actually, with that third part being said, I believe the possibilities are that they're working on Mewtwo as we speak, have finished it already, or never decided on it in the first place. Although, reasoning can moreso point to the former possibilities. (I'm expecting to see some Mewtwo within the next 2 weeks)

One problem.
The longer we wait, the less relevant he becomes. They aren't going to add ANOTHER Pokemon that isn't even relevant to the games that are out. Mewtwo had a starring roll in X and Y; the very last legendary, just like in Red/Blue. This IS his shot, and his last shot for a while.

 

[Arthreeteseven]

I believe Mewtwo would become DLC under the situation that they've already began working on it but never finished it, as I doubt they'd let their work go to waste. (Even though I'm making a lot of assumptions right now)

Although, one of the designers managed to squeeze in that extra Zero Suit Samus costume, so if Mewtwo wasn't one of the original characters to be included on the roster, I wouldn't underestimate their dedication to get Mewtwo in there.

Besides, these characters also go somewhat on popularity and demand, especially from Pokemon (This is why Charizard, Greninja and Lucario are all in the game). There is over a literal crap-ton (it's a measurement, apparently) of positives going for Mewtwo, with little to no reason not to have him.

It'd be more unfortunate than logical to not have Mewtwo, if you ask me. ("Unfortunate" includes things like time constraints, too, but I doubt that's going to happen.)

Even moreso, I'm pretty sure that the overall team dedication for this project is craaaaazy high compared to the previous 3, because of a couple of reasons (nowhere near every possible reason)

-Dual-console game
-Characters have been cut before due to restraints; pretty sure they wouldn't allow themselves to do that as easily again.
-(Synergizes with previous point) They'll definitely make sure to finish what they started.

Actually, with that third part being said, I believe the possibilities are that they're working on Mewtwo as we speak, have finished it already, or never decided on it in the first place. Although, reasoning can moreso point to the former possibilities. (I'm expecting to see some Mewtwo within the next 2 weeks)

I think if they began development on Mewtwo, then he will be released as DLC shortly after the 3ds launch, possibly to promote the purchase of the Wii U. My doubts on him being DLC hinge on the idea that he isn't in the starting roster, and he was not planned to be.

Of course, I think it is all together foolish that we need to have this conversation in the first place, Mewtwo should have been a day one choice for character inclusion by the design staff. After all, Mewtwo has been in the top three (often top one) requested fighters by the fan community and general public worldwide, since the game was first announced. Furthermore his absence from Brawl has sparked a heap of fan anger and frustration. It would be foolish to not have Mewtwo in the game, especially when other Pokemon that had far fewer supporters were added in (looking at you Greninja). You would think Mewtwo was a guaranteed character on these facts alone.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I think if they began development on Mewtwo, then he will be released as DLC shortly after the 3ds launch, possibly to promote the purchase of the Wii U. My doubts on him being DLC hinge on the idea that he isn't in the starting roster, and he was not planned to be.

Of course, I think it is all together foolish that we need to have this conversation in the first place, Mewtwo should have been a day one choice for character inclusion by the design staff. After all, Mewtwo has been in the top three (often top one) requested fighters by the fan community and general public worldwide, since the game was first announced. Furthermore his absence from Brawl has sparked a heap of fan anger and frustration. It would be foolish to not have Mewtwo in the game, especially when other Pokemon that had far fewer supporters were added in (looking at you Greninja). You would think Mewtwo was a guaranteed character on these facts alone.

"Orokana..." ("Foolish...")

 

[Arthreeteseven]

"Orokana..." ("Foolish...")

I love Falco in the corner, he isn't even looking at Mewtwo.

 

[ミスティック Speed]

I love Falco in the corner, he isn't even looking at Mewtwo.

:3 He can't stand to face the fact that he got decimated by the 3rd to last on the tier list. xD

 

[strawhatninja]

Well like it or not I'm guessing early next week we will hear the whole roster and if Mewtwo is in.

 

[Jade_Rock55]

9 more days(Probably less cause leaks),All in all this speculatiting was fun.I can't believe wel'll have the roster next week!!!!

 

[MewtwoX825]

Mewtwo could always be released as DLC to promote ORAS, since Blaziken has no reason to get in over him. I know you're gonna say "well blaziken is oras promotion", but if Mewtwo needs more time and could be timed for ORAS, it'd be perfect.

Blaziken was promoted during XY through the Torchic event so whos to say Mewtwo cant get some type of promotion for ORAS via a new form or somthing (unless Z comes into existence).