Pi
Smash Hero
if falco/fox fsmash/dash attack your shield, can you nair them?
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EXTENNNDUURRRRRR (samus gen. disc.)
- Thread starter Pi
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Pluplue
Smash Ace
you can down smash them.
Linguini
Smash Master
tru, my herb fund is always in need of replenishment. $10 or higher sound good? 3/5?
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
5 bucks on linguini
ihavespaceblondes
Smash Master
I would money match Linguini and then smoke him out afterward if I won.
Pi
Smash Hero
so generous IHSB
i'll put 5$ on plup
/dickriding
i'm the best.
also shielddrop downsmash or WD dsmash?
in theory they are both the same speed...but which one do you use
sigh i really thought that would be enough characters god ****it
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i'll put 5$ on plup
/dickriding
i'm the best.
also shielddrop downsmash or WD dsmash?
in theory they are both the same speed...but which one do you use
sigh i really thought that would be enough characters god ****it
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Pluplue
Smash Ace
kay. cmon down to next level lan and we shall settle it there.
Andymosity
Smash Journeyman
hmm i always punish tackles with an up b. i'll definitely try to change that to a dsmash/dtilt
Pluplue
Smash Ace
yeah I personally dont like to use up b very much, cause it USUALLY puts you in a pretty bad position unless youre on fountain or yoshis. (they usually ban fountain though 
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ThePrime
Smash Lord
plup your samus is really tight, you have great movement and can read people well. Get at this guy
Pi
Smash Hero
I've been experimenting w/ Fsmashing falcon's SHFFL's
specifically Nairs
anyone have input on this? I'm thinking because his airspeed is so quick, the duration of time that Fsmash stays out, with it's priority vs. his lack of priority on his nair, it could be viable
I mean it -has- been working for me, but it seems unreliable
specifically Nairs
anyone have input on this? I'm thinking because his airspeed is so quick, the duration of time that Fsmash stays out, with it's priority vs. his lack of priority on his nair, it could be viable
I mean it -has- been working for me, but it seems unreliable
zDuck
Smash Journeyman
i did that for a while, but then they're gonna start running at you and then jumping right out of your fsmash range, then dair->stuff while you're in lag
Geist
Smash Master
Or dj ff dair lol
But at that point it's all about yomi, unless its slow enough that they can react to it.
But at that point it's all about yomi, unless its slow enough that they can react to it.
mers
Smash Ace
I think that WD OOS is 1 frame faster than shield drop. Plus, you can respace, so its generally better.
Geist
Smash Master
Well samus's jump comes out frame 2?
Shield drop takes a bunch of frames, cant remember how many though. Moral of the story is it's not a one frame difference iirc
Shield drop takes a bunch of frames, cant remember how many though. Moral of the story is it's not a one frame difference iirc
Pluplue
Smash Ace
someone's gotta explain to me what dj is.
Geist
Smash Master
Double jump lol
Like in this example our falcon approaches with empty sh to bait fsmash and djs over samus's smash and ff dairs before samus gets out of lag.
Like in this example our falcon approaches with empty sh to bait fsmash and djs over samus's smash and ff dairs before samus gets out of lag.
Andymosity
Smash Journeyman
it's only good for predicting. fsmash falcon when your opponent isn't good, because a good falcon will just bait, like blowtoes said.
Pi
Smash Hero
shieldrop has like 14 frames of lag
wavedash consts of jumping (airborne on frame 4)
and wavelanding, 10 frames of lag
so even if you're frame perfect you're looking at 14 frames of doing nothing...it's really put a damper on wavedashing for me
also plup i do not think you can WD downsmash spacies fsmash/dash attacks reliably...but that's kinda hard to ttest on my own
i do think you can nair OoS them reliably though.
also, in marth matchup, i think extender is good, maybe sheik too, blowtoes you play KK some times yea?
going to (continue) experiement(ing) with aerial intertuping...
it's ridiculously easy to do on BF/DL..haven't tried YS
and it's by far the fastest way to traverse platforms...
i really think there is something there
this is going to replace my waveland on mid platforms i'm pretty sure...
my wavelands were getting predictable any way
i should have been perfecting this instead of practicing SHFFM...
also here's an example of what colin does to edgeguard samus lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTXVrqegds
first stock
also i'm uploading all the other matches now so...
wavedash consts of jumping (airborne on frame 4)
and wavelanding, 10 frames of lag
so even if you're frame perfect you're looking at 14 frames of doing nothing...it's really put a damper on wavedashing for me
also plup i do not think you can WD downsmash spacies fsmash/dash attacks reliably...but that's kinda hard to ttest on my own
i do think you can nair OoS them reliably though.
also, in marth matchup, i think extender is good, maybe sheik too, blowtoes you play KK some times yea?
going to (continue) experiement(ing) with aerial intertuping...
it's ridiculously easy to do on BF/DL..haven't tried YS
and it's by far the fastest way to traverse platforms...
this is going to replace my waveland on mid platforms i'm pretty sure...
my wavelands were getting predictable any way
i should have been perfecting this instead of practicing SHFFM...
also here's an example of what colin does to edgeguard samus lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqTXVrqegds
first stock
also i'm uploading all the other matches now so...
Violence
Smash Lord
Hehe... extender catching on...
So what about Dair OoS? Is it fast enough? Isn't it better?
So what about Dair OoS? Is it fast enough? Isn't it better?
Pluplue
Smash Ace
boo colin. And yeah It's probably safe to just up b. I dunno all the stuff you can do on fox anymore, my bro is still in japan =/
and GOD DAMMIT my edge guard woulda been BEAUTIFUL on 1.4
and GOD DAMMIT my edge guard woulda been BEAUTIFUL on 1.4
Geist
Smash Master
Dont use extender on a good sheik lol
At least not kk. He quickly jumps after his moves to avoid cc dsmash and stuff like that.
And if you miss a grab he gets to grab you instead. Not a good idea
At least not kk. He quickly jumps after his moves to avoid cc dsmash and stuff like that.
And if you miss a grab he gets to grab you instead. Not a good idea
Pi
Smash Hero
k
& if you see him
tell him i said he's a ***** and that next to winning the tournament, ****** him in our MM will be the most satisfying thing that weekend.
& if you see him
tell him i said he's a ***** and that next to winning the tournament, ****** him in our MM will be the most satisfying thing that weekend.
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
lol
plup is hella good
should remember to FF the shine so he auto-grabs the ledge when he's shined off
would've saved him a few stocks
plup is hella good
should remember to FF the shine so he auto-grabs the ledge when he's shined off
would've saved him a few stocks
Pluplue
Smash Ace
lol ty yo.
and gee whiz I just noticed this threads title has gone to hell.
and gee whiz I just noticed this threads title has gone to hell.
Pi
Smash Hero
shouldn't have reminded me i had this power
Andymosity
Smash Journeyman
SHFFL'd fair --> utilt = ****
Pi
Smash Hero
i did that to uuaa or pengie today...
Pluplue
Smash Ace
wish I coulda been there. I've been looking forward to playing project m =/
Pi
Smash Hero
i told everyone bout your smashfest tomorrow
maybe DS will show up w/ P:M
THE RED SPARROW
Smash Lord
I like how Darrell handles Marth. What a gay matchup.
Andymosity
Smash Journeyman
i used to hate the fact that marth can stop samus' missiles so easily, but after playing against marth recently, i realized that they can serve as an opening tool. The fact that marth has to slash at it leaves him vulnerable long enough for a dmsash, fsmash, ftilt, or dtilt. if he decides to shield it, immediately grab him. spot dodge --> dsmash ***** when he tries to grab or fmash too
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
hugs in 9th place
not bad, not bad at all consider the power players who were there
not bad, not bad at all consider the power players who were there
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
Congrats, Hugo
you have redeemed yourself loool
no but seriously
you deserve it
you have redeemed yourself loool
no but seriously
you deserve it
Andymosity
Smash Journeyman
westballz is too good
Geist
Smash Master
Sweet reppin' samussssssssss
So Jason, you still feeling confident about MMing KirbyKaze? LOL
So Jason, you still feeling confident about MMing KirbyKaze? LOL
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
he'll probably say something like kk is is overrated or he won by luck or he just plain sucks or all of the above
goooooo jason lmao
goooooo jason lmao
Geist
Smash Master
Funny, that's exactly what KK said about himself
He always does that though, usually just before he penetrates you
He always does that though, usually just before he penetrates you