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Every game has had them. Let's Talk Clones

Starlight_Lily

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Here's an obvious one, now that we know the Inklings are playable, the Octolings.

And a Dr Wario clone for Wario.
 

PeridotGX

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My clone expectations:

Yarn Yoshi for :4yoshi:

Octolings for Inkling

Galacta Knight for :4metaknight:

Isabelle as a semi-clone of :4villager:

:4luigi:,:4drmario:, and :4tlink: are made more unique from their original character by changes to the OG's moveset.

:4darkpit: getting Pit's Brawl Stuff

Maybe :pichumelee:?
 

The Smash Nerd II.0.

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My clone expectations:

Yarn Yoshi for :4yoshi:

Octolings for Inkling

Galacta Knight for :4metaknight:

Isabelle as a semi-clone of :4villager:

:4luigi:,:4drmario:, and :4tlink: are made more unique from their original character by changes to the OG's moveset.

:4darkpit: getting Pit's Brawl Stuff

Maybe :pichumelee:?
No, no :pichumelee:
Also may I add in, have :4darkpit: use his staff for his :GCB: move and not just his final smash.
 
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G-Unit

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All I'm begging is an EX Character Mode; none of the unlockable characters have EX modes. I'll give examples here:

  • EX Mario: Mario's Melee moveset with Jigglypuff's Final Smash
  • EX Samus: Match starts with Zero Suit Samus instead. Like Normal (Varia Suit) Samus, Final Smashes change between Normal and EX mid Match.
  • EX Yoshi: Yoshi with a ground pound Up B, an egg-firing B, and many others to make EX Yoshi more accessible than Normal Yoshi
  • EX Kirby: Frontal and Upward yarn twirls are done with Smash B and Up B respectively, Ice Breath for Down B, Kirby's 64 standard attacks and Luigi's SSB4 Final Smash
  • EX Pikachu: Just like Normal Pikachu, but any Electric and Psychic moves damage itself. Up B becomes Agility, Skull Bash also takes damage, Pikachu's 64 standard attacks and taunt, and a final smash just like Normal Pikachu's, but constantly hurts itself throughout.
 

EpicElliot

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My clone idea so far list:
Dr.Luigi
Daisy
Dry Bowser
DK jr.
Impa
Young Link (bring him back as a clone i wouldn't care)
Phantom Gannondorf
(Marth & Ike to get the bowser jr treatment & just add other sword useres instead of alt colors)
(olimar/alf just add more alt charaters from pikmin)
galacta knight
Dr.Wario
igglybuff
ash hat pikachu & bring back pichu
wartortal & bulbasuar if Ivy & squrts return
make R.O.B & Robot 2 diffrent charaters they are IMO the japan model & western model
Ms pac man
evil ryu
shadow mewtwo
blood falcon
wii fit u trainer
hitmonchan
Bride Dress Mario <3

um thats it i think?
 

PSIGuy

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I thought this over a bit; the best way to implement clones would be to treat them like they were custom moves.
This means a few things;
  • Customs must be turned on for them to appear as their own roster slots and ergo, as their own characters.
  • As alternate palettes, clones only keep their taunts; everything else about them is the same.
  • Clones and palettes can be added for free in the game. Existing palettes can gain custom stats in updates. Some DLC characters come with a clone of that character.
  • Like all custom moves, clones have to be unlocked. You do this by clearing Classic/1P mode with the base character and then defeating them.
  • FINALLY, this means the people crying about 'wasted slots' can just turn off customs. like come on how is getting mad at clones real like just turn 'em off lmao
Here are a few ideas for characters that could gain clones in this way along with the changes I'd propose.
EXISTING CLONES
Mario/Dr. Mario
Ness/Lucas

Let's just get these out of the way.
EXISTING PALETTES, NEW CLONES

CLONES FOR VETERANS

Ryu/Ken
A classic clone! Ken has multi-hit attacks and faster attacks that lack killing power.

CLONES FOR NEWCOMERS
 
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CrusherMania1592

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I can't help but noticed how people feel Celica should be a semi-clone of Robin. Can someone explain to me how that will even work with her moveset?
 

MrRoidley

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my ideas:
-Donkey Kong Jr. as a quicker but weaker DK clone. New Final Smash involving the Klaptraps
-Jeanne as a Bayonetta clone. Stronger, her Witch Time is way harder to pull out but has better results. Basically the differences Jeanne has in comparison to Bayo in her games
-Daisy as a flower-themed Peach semiclone, instead of hearts and rainbows. Completely new specials and Final Smash but mostly unchanged otherwise. btw Daisy really can't be an alt, it would make no sense for Daisy to have Peach's FS, pluck vegetables or use Toad as a counter
-Alph as an Olimar clone that uses Rock Pikmin (I genuinely want this more than anything)
-Octoling as an Inkling clone, maybe the Smash team would have to come up with some key differences in stats to them



Some characters I disagree for being clones:
-While I do think Celica could function somewhat similar to Robin, she has way too different tomes and moves, she could be unique
-After Hyrule Warriors, the last thing I want to see is Impa being a Sheik clone. She deserves better and has the potential to do better
-Same with Isabelle being a Villager clone. A moveset based on the public projects and constructing stuff out of nowhere could be way cooler
-Dark Samus has potential to be way more unique than a Samus clone/semiclone but we all know Smash's history with dark characters
 

TCT~Phantom

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My current clone expectations

Funky Kong (DK semi clone )
Ninten (Ness/Lucas semi clone)
Yarn Yoshi ( Yoshi clone)
Tails/Knuckles ( Sonic Semi Clones)
 

Roberk

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While not exactly similar to clones, I'd love some more costumes in Smash 5. Costumes like Alph, M/F Robin and Corrin/WFT, Villagers, and definitely Koopalings are what I want to see when it comes to similar character representation. Characters that deserve to be in Smash, but not enough to get a new moveset or even be a clone. If implemented well, model swaps for existing characters can be one of the best new forms of representations in Smash. Masked Luigi, Masked De De De, generic FE swords being Marth costumes, and many others can be nice compromises between being clones and existing characters.
 

Diddy Kong

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For those that want Yarn Yoshi to be more aerial-based:

Regular Yoshi already has the best aerial game in the series, do you really want an even MORE broken air fighter?
Well.. Then make Yarn Yoshi more floaty and feather weight so that the offset becomes far more noticable.
 

Violenceman

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I know a Guest Character would never be used as a simple clone, but I would love to have Ryu Hayabusa as a clone of Greninja (with a little bit of Shiek mixed in).
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

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I mean, it's possible for a guest character to have a clone, sure... but it'd probably just be a clone of that particular guest character. I.E. Akuma for Ryu. Or at least keep to the same franchise.
 

osby

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What do you mean by this? Can you elaborate?
You said they can make generic FE swords as Marth costumes. There are no humanoid swords in Fire Emblem (and they wouldn't be generic anyway). They can't give them Marth's moveset.
 

Shock3600

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You said they can make generic FE swords as Marth costumes. There are no humanoid swords in Fire Emblem (and they wouldn't be generic anyway). They can't give them Marth's moveset.
Are you making a joke about no literal swords being humanoid or saying that Marth is the only humanoid sword user
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

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Are you making a joke about no literal swords being humanoid or saying that Marth is the only humanoid sword user
It's the former. And also kind of a silly joke that is now going on too long.

Marth could indeed get some alternate costumes of various FE users, but, imo, I think having slight references via colors works better here.
 

UserKev

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As far as Echoes, please give me Doc Louis and Alph. Give Doc star punches and Alph the rock pikmin.

Knuckles would be amazing, but won't get in before Shadow.
 
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