Elma for Smash Ultimate: Strength comes from experience. That’s true on any planet.

[Sunny-Zee]

I been predicting for months now that we will probably be getting 2 characters revealed at E3. If no newcomer is revealed at E3 after waiting this long, I'm leaving speculation until the whole Season Pass is out.

Remember this: just when you think you’re out of the speculation and hype game, it will manage to pull you back in. No matter if it’s good or bad, it will always find a way to get people talking.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Remember this: just when you think you’re out of the speculation and hype game, it will manage to pull you back in. No matter if it’s good or bad, it will always find a way to get people talking.

I remember how unsatisfied I was with the majority of the newcomer selection back in Smash 4 and seeing Bayonetta as the only character to come out of the Smash Ballot in that game, that I almost left Smash speculation forever and probably would have had every veteran didn't return for "Everyone Is Here!" in Ultimate. The hype was so surreal for me seeing every veteran return in that first trailer for Ultimate, that I wasn't even thinking about how crazy it was seeing Ridley finally getting in who was my 2nd most wanted character after K. Rool. I would have never thought the sight of seeing every veteran return would have blown my mind more than seeing any of my most wanted characters. My mind process of who I think could be in or out completely shattered after seeing the whole Smash segment of that Direct.

Speculation is more fun to me now that I know all my past mains are back and two of what use to be my most wanted characters K. Rool and Ridley are all in. And of course I wouldn't be too upset if I don't get Goemon, Banjo & Kazooie, Dixie Kong, or Porky in the DLC for Ultimate, but I will have a lot more fun speculating knowing at least a large portion of my Smash dream is now a reality.

 

[Wolfie557]

do people here know of the elma discord / assist alliance? (with spirits lol)

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Remember this: just when you think you’re out of the speculation and hype game, it will manage to pull you back in. No matter if it’s good or bad, it will always find a way to get people talking.

Yup. Although things outside the support threads are currently, well, pic-related.

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Honestly, I'm worried about this forum community's mental welfare if bupkis happens at E3.

 

[Sunny-Zee]

Hmm... that bad, huh?
As for how the forums will cope, well... does swapping Miis, custom stages, fan creations, etc. sound alright to you?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Hmm... that bad, huh?
As for how the forums will cope, well... does swapping Miis, custom stages, fan creations, etc. sound alright to you?

Honestly not sure. That can only fill the void for so long.

What gets me the most is that recently, I had just wanted to post some fan art on the Joker thread, and it somehow led to a waifu argument. We need E3, badly.

So, um, have you guys found any neat Elma fan art recently?

 

[Sunny-Zee]

Waifu wars, seriously? Has the Joker thread really descended to that combative *Skreeonk*-show of a discussion? I agree, E3 just cannot come soon enough.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Waifu wars, seriously? Has the Joker thread really descended to that combative *Skreeonk*-show of a discussion? I agree, E3 just cannot come soon enough.

Well, it was really just one user that was stubborn about it for silly reasons, and it ended quickly enough. And I'll leave it at that, so mum's the word on this issue.

 

[Sunny-Zee]

Well, it was really just one user that was stubborn about it for silly reasons, and it ended quickly enough. And I'll leave it at that, so mum's the word on this issue.

Good to know! Let’s try to keep it contained and NOT have it spread like wildfire, shall we?
BELATED ADDITION: Speaking of relationships...

So, um, have you guys found any neat Elma fan art recently?

Well, would some (rather crack-ish) speculation about interspecies hereditary genetics count?

Spoiler: True!Elma/Cross Headcanon rambling past this point.

https://shiro-hunter.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F149797380642

So, what do you think about this?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Good to know! Let’s try to keep it contained and NOT have it spread like wildfire, shall we?
BELATED ADDITION: Speaking of relationships...

Well, would some (rather crack-ish) speculation about interspecies hereditary genetics count?

Spoiler: True!Elma/Cross Headcanon rambling past this point.

https://shiro-hunter.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F149797380642

So, what do you think about this?

I think I would get the fuller picture if I get to play XBX someday.

 

[Sigman]

Honestly not sure. That can only fill the void for so long.

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What gets me the most is that recently, I had just wanted to post some fan art on the Joker thread, and it somehow led to a waifu argument. We need E3, badly.

So, um, have you guys found any neat Elma fan art recently?

There is always fan art to find on sites such as Deviantart, Tumblr, Twitter, Pixiv, Artstation, etc.

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[Sunny-Zee]

Nice, nice! Of particular note, I especially like the retro Gundam send up and Kira-Vera’s little domestic piece with casual KOS-MOS, small!Shulk, and small!Rex. But all in all, this is a great set you’ve got here.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

A writer (Yuichiro Takeda) for all the Xenoblade games and Xenosaga (the DS port thing) as well as the F-Zero anime retweeted an E3 announcement. There's a 50% chance it's nothing, a 40% chance it's not Xeno related, a 9% chance it's not Xenoblade X related, but there's a golden 1% chance that

Spoiler: brace yourselves

F ZERO IS BACK BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
haha but really pls X

Kinda late but

What if

This ties into Caitlin Glass’s supposed NDA, confirming it is related to Xeno X in some shape or form??

Could be a Xeno X port with new content, or Xeno X 2

... or Elma in smash

Or any combination of those!

I hope...

 

[Jocario Zero]

Kinda late but

What if

This ties into Caitlin Glass’s supposed NDA, confirming it is related to Xeno X in some shape or form??

Could be a Xeno X port with new content, or Xeno X 2

... or Elma in smash

Or any combination of those!

I hope...

I'll take all 3 of those, thank you very much. (Not that i would be the only one) ^^

 

[Calamitas]

Kinda late but

What if

This ties into Caitlin Glass’s supposed NDA, confirming it is related to Xeno X in some shape or form??

Could be a Xeno X port with new content, or Xeno X 2

... or Elma in smash

Or any combination of those!

I hope...

Come to think of it, we still don't know what her NDA role is, do we? Or Sawano's secret project, for that matter.
(I mean, I get that there's now also the chance that it's for Borderlands 3 but still)

 

[ColtonS25]

Is the NDA role the same one as the one where they had a character she voiced as a reference? Just curious.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Is the NDA role the same one as the one where they had a character she voiced as a reference? Just curious.

Yeah, which, correct me if I’m not mistaken but didn’t Mike Pollock say something similar before his NDA role was revealed and it turned out to be Eggman once again?

 

[Pallex]

Found another custom stage of Elma.

Not bad at all.

Nice, nice! Of particular note, I especially like the retro Gundam send up and Kira-Vera’s little domestic piece with casual KOS-MOS, small!Shulk, and small!Rex. But all in all, this is a great set you’ve got here.

You mean the Badass Armfold Elma with the Wels/Verus Black Skell? According to the artist of that piece, it is inspired by Gunbuster and the Wels/Verus Black Skell is painted like that instead of the usual red because it represents..."something important to Elma."

 

[Flyboy]

I love seeing Saga and X crossover art. Elma and chaos meeting....dream come true

 

[Jocario Zero]

Yeah, which, correct me if I’m not mistaken but didn’t Mike Pollock say something similar before his NDA role was revealed and it turned out to be Eggman once again?

I don't know anything about that, but i think i read somewhere that Mike Pollock had to re audtion for Eggman when they where changing the entire voice cast with Sonic Colors and Free Riders. He was the only voice actor to be unchanged because no other actor was good enough. (and it's for the better. Mr. Pollock is a treasure. Just listen to him in the last Sonic Twitter Takedown.)

 

[Abade]

Come to think of it, we still don't know what her NDA role is, do we? Or Sawano's secret project, for that matter.
(I mean, I get that there's now also the chance that it's for Borderlands 3 but still)

Has been it confirmed what was the toy mech for Sakurai bought for a project?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Has been it confirmed what was the toy mech for Sakurai bought for a project?

It's a Vifam figure, which apparently was bought specifically to use the rifle as a reference for something.

At least one person thought it could be for , but we just don't know at this point.

Or it was just for a kitbash figure project all along, lel.

 

[Calamitas]

Has been it confirmed what was the toy mech for Sakurai bought for a project?

Not to my knowledge.
Kinda makes you think, too - we have quite a number of rather concrete points that point towards Elma (toy mech, Glass' NDA role, Sawano's secret project, the entire thing with Elma in 2, no X music in Ultimate, the internal Spirit listing. . .), none of which are really resolved yet. Whenever I see what "evidence" people have for other, more frequently discussed characters, I'm actually always surprised that they don't have anywhere near the same amount of stuff as we do.

 

[GolisoPower]

Not to my knowledge.
Kinda makes you think, too - we have quite a number of rather concrete points that point towards Elma (toy mech, Glass' NDA role, Sawano's secret project, the entire thing with Elma in 2, no X music in Ultimate, the internal Spirit listing. . .), none of which are really resolved yet. Whenever I see what "evidence" people have for other, more frequently discussed characters, I'm actually always surprised that they don't have anywhere near the same amount of stuff as we do.

At this rate, I don't give a crap on how long I have to wait if Elma does make it. I'll be happy if she's confirmed nonetheless.

 

[toonito]

supports elma

 

[Calamitas]

A writer (Yuichiro Takeda) for all the Xenoblade games and Xenosaga (the DS port thing) as well as the F-Zero anime retweeted an E3 announcement. There's a 50% chance it's nothing, a 40% chance it's not Xeno related, a 9% chance it's not Xenoblade X related, but there's a golden 1% chance that

Spoiler: brace yourselves

F ZERO IS BACK BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
haha but really pls X

Also a bit late on that, but has this guy retweeted any relevant things in the past?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

At this rate, I don't give a crap on how long I have to wait if Elma does make it. I'll be happy if she's confirmed nonetheless.

Waiting half a year or 2 for DLC in Ultimate is nothing compared to waiting 8 to 10 years for Smash 6.

 

[SorrowOfAcheron]

Elma will be the 3D retro rep when we finally move to the 4th dimension and are playing Smash 53.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Elma will be the 3D retro rep when we finally move to the 4th dimension and are playing Smash 53.

I don't think a old forgotten character from a ongoing series would be considered to be called the retro rep. I think a old character from a one shot gaming franchise like Duck Hunt and Ice Climbers should considered to be called the retro rep. I'm not saying Elma will be forgotten, but you know what I mean.

 

[Abade]

Sakurai likes the idea of Super Smash Bros at Super Nintendo World Theme Park which is under construction at Universal Studios Japan, intended to open in time for the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo.
It reminds me of how one of the developers wanted to build a theme park in Xenogears.
https://xeno-underground.net/media_xenogears_concert.html

"I heard from Honne, who was directing for the map and graphics, that Kato was about to build a theme park in Lahan Village. Apparently, he didn't even talk to Honne about it and just went to the people who can get it done, and Honne about it and convinced him at the last second that it wouldn't work out for the kind of game that Xenogears is."

Would Xeno work like a Skell simulation with Colonel Elma herself giving instructions just like those directs...

Or will it get shot down again?

 

[Sunny-Zee]

Sakurai likes the idea of Super Smash Bros at Super Nintendo World Theme Park which is under construction at Universal Studios Japan, intended to open in time for the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo.
It reminds me of how one of the developers wanted to build a theme park in Xenogears.
https://xeno-underground.net/media_xenogears_concert.html

"I heard from Honne, who was directing for the map and graphics, that Kato was about to build a theme park in Lahan Village. Apparently, he didn't even talk to Honne about it and just went to the people who can get it done, and Honne about it and convinced him at the last second that it wouldn't work out for the kind of game that Xenogears is."

Would Xeno work like a Skell simulation with Colonel Elma herself giving instructions just like those directs...

Or will it get shot down again?

Dude, that sounds a lot like Transformers: The Ride. I think *this* speaks for what I think of this idea.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Few more days till E3... here’s hoping we see Elma for Smash and/or something Xenoblade X related there...!

 

[Flyboy]

X port!!!

...I say as I finally set up my Wii U again...

 

[Jocario Zero]

Few more days till E3... here’s hoping we see Elma for Smash and/or something Xenoblade X related there...!

Yeah. That would be cool. e3 could be pretty amazing this year (and please let the Banjo-rumors be true as well...)

It's hard to believe, that we are this close to e3 already.

 

[Calamitas]

I'm just going to keep my expectations low and my hopes high. At least I doubt that they'll find a way to make this more disappointing than I already fear it is.

Slightly related though, did anyone else get some major Xenoblade vibes from the Wild Areas shown in the recent Pokémon Direct for Sword and Shield?

 

[ColtonS25]

So the next game from Monolith has apparently been in production for like 10 months and map design is done!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mo...no2-sold-1-73m-copies-4gamer-jp.121584/page-5

Exciting to know that Xenoblade Chronicles X2 could be on its way! I really hope that it is and that Monolith doesn’t keep cranking out the fantasy stuff. The X series could represent a sci-fi, more realistic side of the Xenoblade series. Also could be the medieval game that they’ve teased.

I didn’t like the more anime style that they went for with 2 as much as the style of the original/X. Maybe change the faces from X to be just better in general, and it’d look pretty cool. I personally think that the style looks much more distinctive and allows for a more interesting environment (Sylvalum and Noctilum at night say hello). Again, I just feel the need to express how darn pretty Xenoblade X is. The world is so alien and unique. It’s something I missed while playing 2.

As far as E3 goes, I am really hoping for that Xenoblade X port. I would rebuy it, and I don’t rebuy games very often. I just want to see Elma in something again so bad. X would do so much better on Switch and get so many more people playing. Then I’d bet we would get some more support for Elma around here for sure.

 

[PSIGuy]

It'll probably be some time until we even hear what this project is, so I'm not gonna hold my breath. Short of an X-port coming out of nowhere to fill an empty release schedule I can't see anything from Monolith Soft in the near future that'll tickle my fancy. Hell, they don't even mention Xenoblade X once in that whole interview, not even as a throwaway "we learnt a lot from map design with it". Not surprising, just... the same kind of disappointment I'm getting used to.

 

[Pallex]

So the next game from Monolith has apparently been in production for like 10 months and map design is done!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mo...no2-sold-1-73m-copies-4gamer-jp.121584/page-5

Exciting to know that Xenoblade Chronicles X2 could be on its way! I really hope that it is and that Monolith doesn’t keep cranking out the fantasy stuff. The X series could represent a sci-fi, more realistic side of the Xenoblade series. Also could be the medieval game that they’ve teased.

I didn’t like the more anime style that they went for with 2 as much as the style of the original/X. Maybe change the faces from X to be just better in general, and it’d look pretty cool. I personally think that the style looks much more distinctive and allows for a more interesting environment (Sylvalum and Noctilum at night say hello). Again, I just feel the need to express how darn pretty Xenoblade X is. The world is so alien and unique. It’s something I missed while playing 2.

As far as E3 goes, I am really hoping for that Xenoblade X port. I would rebuy it, and I don’t rebuy games very often. I just want to see Elma in something again so bad. X would do so much better on Switch and get so many more people playing. Then I’d bet we would get some more support for Elma around here for sure.

Here you go:

 

[ColtonS25]

Here you go:

Oh believe me, I know. I still haven’t unlocked her since I’ve been busy with other things, but I’m close! I still want more Elma, whether it’s Smash, an X port, or just a full sequel with her as main character.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

Honestly, I'd rather have another Final Fantasy rep or a character from a new series, i.e. Phantom R from Rhythm Thief and the Emperor's Treasure.