Elyssa Xey Hexen
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This is for awareness purposes only.
First watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFtJDxsqMs
These are all the characters that are mentioned in the video: Fox, wolf, Shiek, Captain Falcon, Falco, Ganon, Bowser, King Dedede, Link, Diddy, Donkey Kong, Meta Knight, Pikachu, Snake, Zero Suit Samus, Lucas, Sonic, Squirtle, Charizard, Ike, Pit, and Wario.
That's 22 characters and slightly over 50% of the entire roster. The animation mentioned in the video for Snake and Marth is 27 frames, I assume this might be close to other characters duration. From this point of view, Utilt ends quickly enough to allow Snake to capitalize on the Edgeslip with other attacks. But the biggest thing is that...
Snake has a jab reset -> uncharged fsmash...
Someone on battlefield platform, utilt them a shield, they fall off, jab reset, fsmash.
This to me is a pretty hefty realization that we can get a guaranteed fsmash on someone by setting up right, and while situational, it is a fairly common situation. Battlefield is among one of the most popular stages to play on, and people getting caught on those platforms is quiet common too against someone like snake. Snake's Utilt covers a good chuck of a lower platform if there is a shield to hit. The push from Utilt is high enough too. Someone not shielding on a platform is irrelevent as when the alternative means getting hit or still stuck in a bad position.
The entire situation is in Snake's favor anyway and this is nothing new since day one. However, given awareness you start to look for the situations, and knowledge allows you to properly capitalize on punishments. What makes a good player different from a great player is often times knowing what they can punish with if their opponent uses different options. Utilt is good anyway in that it can hit people if they do not shield on a platform, but if they do, you can punish them in someway still. Anywhere from a dashattack/snakeslide to a fsmash. The little bits add up.
P.S. Snake's platform game under them is pretty good.
First watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFtJDxsqMs
These are all the characters that are mentioned in the video: Fox, wolf, Shiek, Captain Falcon, Falco, Ganon, Bowser, King Dedede, Link, Diddy, Donkey Kong, Meta Knight, Pikachu, Snake, Zero Suit Samus, Lucas, Sonic, Squirtle, Charizard, Ike, Pit, and Wario.
That's 22 characters and slightly over 50% of the entire roster. The animation mentioned in the video for Snake and Marth is 27 frames, I assume this might be close to other characters duration. From this point of view, Utilt ends quickly enough to allow Snake to capitalize on the Edgeslip with other attacks. But the biggest thing is that...
Snake has a jab reset -> uncharged fsmash...
Someone on battlefield platform, utilt them a shield, they fall off, jab reset, fsmash.
This to me is a pretty hefty realization that we can get a guaranteed fsmash on someone by setting up right, and while situational, it is a fairly common situation. Battlefield is among one of the most popular stages to play on, and people getting caught on those platforms is quiet common too against someone like snake. Snake's Utilt covers a good chuck of a lower platform if there is a shield to hit. The push from Utilt is high enough too. Someone not shielding on a platform is irrelevent as when the alternative means getting hit or still stuck in a bad position.
The entire situation is in Snake's favor anyway and this is nothing new since day one. However, given awareness you start to look for the situations, and knowledge allows you to properly capitalize on punishments. What makes a good player different from a great player is often times knowing what they can punish with if their opponent uses different options. Utilt is good anyway in that it can hit people if they do not shield on a platform, but if they do, you can punish them in someway still. Anywhere from a dashattack/snakeslide to a fsmash. The little bits add up.
P.S. Snake's platform game under them is pretty good.