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My only issue is Ganondorf being Hubert. Since Dorf is far more physically imposing, wouldn't Robin work better?
You actually
ed me on this one, since I was gonna post it, but I agree.
Tbh, after beating three routes of Three Houses (Church, Edelgard, Dimitri), I don't know why anyone would think Edelgard would get in before Byleth. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Sorry Edelgard fans. I do quite like her character though.
Well; I guess there is a reason why siding with Edelgard it's optional, and you can still change your opinion in literally the very last moment even if you already commited for the first time (going to the coronation)... it's polarizing what she does.
I'm sure many people felt similarly about Chrom in Awakening. But guess who had to get his chance another day? Sakurai doesn't operate by any sort of sense but his own.
I've read somewhere that the three main routes can be seen as parallels for the three big Persona games: Blue Lions is P3 (moving past despair), Golden Deer is P4 (seeking hidden truths) and Black Eagles is P5 (rebelling against a stable, but troubled environment). With that in mind, picture this: if Joker and his band of thieves couldn't steal hearts to bring about change, and instead had to assassinate the corrupt people they target, would that make them less righteous? Some would argue the current method may actually be crueler for the targets than simply dying... near the very end of that game you also have a big choice to make pretty similar to the one you have in Black Eagles:
Recently I've come to become neutral on her, but I still don't think the end justifies the means, this is mainly why Verdant Wind is my favorite route, similar goals with far less extreme methods of execution, granted Edel was in fact the one who sparked the change that was sorely needed, but even so I still can't find myself agreeing with her.
and he doesn't consider himself that much of an hero.
I rather doubt that moral concerns like that would prevent an inclusion when some of the characters we have don't exactly have their hands squeaky-clean.
Heck, you can do some morally questionable stuff as
And lest we forget, we have an industrialist who doesn't use the best work ethics.
And then there's the elephant in the room.
That being said, Sakurai did voice his concern about FE swordspeople leaving little room in regards to moveset variety over time, so at this point he only would include them if he had no other choice or his hand was forced.
: Wants to blow up an island and it's inhabitants because they bruised his ego, also a terrible boss.: Extremely rude and disrespectful to almost everyone, even if she cares deep down. Loves to humiliate others.: A well-meaning ruler prone to vices of gluttony and envy. Ironically for the cutesy background of his series, is a surprisingly good parallel to Edelgard.: Also tried to overthrow his planet's regime because things weren't being run to his liking; Kirby proved him wrong, but he still has his own vice in his desire for strong opponents that has led him to make questionable decisions.: Power-hungry. What more needs to be said?
But unlike Chron, Byleth has a lot of options to be unique. Also like Robin, he's the player character.
You really sure? There's a difference between me and several people here doing an info dump on everything about Edelgard and playing the game/ watching a playthrough of it and experiencing both what the game and Edelgard offers yourself.
I dont think i will watch any playthroughs of the game soon, and i know i wont be playing it in the forseeable future. If you dont want to go too into detail on the spoilers some key bits may be good
All you need to know is that Edelgard is an Armoured lord in her unique class, giving her a towering shield and the ability to shrug off many attacks, making her an interesting type of superheavy with phenomenal defence between those traits, the throwing axes available to those users and Three Houses's newly introduced battalions that can cover a wide range (all lords have a specialty in handling them with authority). That's all before getting into the combat arts which are prime special or interesting normal move material.
Does he, really? Technically in-game he does, but Smash only really takes default characteristics as that rabbit hole's just too deep. So we have Byleth's class with specialties in sword, faith and brawling. His spell selection is far from impressive as I've only seen one offensive move in that category, Nosferatu, and they sure aren't going to make the healing moves options. Then there's brawling, which is hard to justify when you have disjointed reach with a sword, only really used for jabbing and quick interrupts as we see with Ike and Corrin. So that just leaves the Sword of the Creator, which sometimes turns into a whip. We have distinguished whips on the Belmonts, who have far more varied tools. Without any other distinguishing characteristics (Byleth has superb stats all-around, but no specialty), Byleth really does just amount to another swordfighter, with occasional extended reach like Corrin.
Female superheavy. Samus is pretty heavy in her suit.
Worse. She's shorter than Little Mac. As Little Mac is based on his appearance from Punch Out Wii, he's 5'7"/170cm. Edelgard is 5'2"/158cm and she never gets a growth spurt like Dimitri and Bernadetta do after the timeskip.
There is also the matter of the Crests, Gambits/Battalions, and Combat Arts.
She's 5'2. By Smash standards, her short stature would stand out a lot; she's shorter than Little Mac in Smash! Even if they rescale her proportions, she would probably a head shorter than Marth/Lucina!
Not gonna lie, this is an awful sales pitch. All this talk of RNG is going to make her sound terrible to a lot of people, myself included. Not to mention you went out of your way to say she'd be broken.
Probably why I am not majoring in marketing.
I understand that feeling, I was quite neutral on Dimitri during BE but now I'm Ch20 of BL and I really despise him and his story, since he does even worse things that Edelgard for no real reason, and I always hated the message that "depression/trauma excuses everything horrible you do".
Mostly because Edelgard is very prominent in all routes, and has a stand out role even in the School Phase despite the house you chose, making her the clear stand out among the 3 lords of the game.
Azura is a dancer/singer, they're terrible fighters by default and are used mainly to get other units to move twice. As we see with the Earthbound kids, you do not include moves designed exclusively to support others. Dragon Veins also are a stage feature, not a character one since any noble in Fates can use them, not just Corrin.
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Not to mention, Smash seldom pays attention to small stat details like that for FE characters. Like why doesn't Ike's Aether heal himself or do bonus damage to shields. Even if random crest effects were a thing their effects would probably be far more mild than Hero crits (double damage, FE crits are triple damage, why do you think it's relegated to a Final Smash?), like 5% extra damage or small heals based on damage done. You don't plan on crest activations in Three Houses so it's really a very minor thing to worry about.
Yes, that's another reason why I love Edelgard so much and despise Dimitri (of which I've just finished his route thankfully).
Sometimes I feel that Dimitri was designed as Camus
Absolutely. I would specify that when I say that I hate Dimitri I don't mean that he is a bad written character or that he isn't an interesting character study of a classic archetype of FE protagonist, I mean it in the semse that if I met him I would punch him in the face for how many our differences are lol.
I also see some traits of Berkut in Dimitri, mostly their slow descent into madness driven by thirst for revenge and basically being pawns of bigger powers.
That is a interesting detail to consider when we know that Marianne it's the only non-BL/Neutral Character that Dimitri supports.
My idea would be a possesed Palutena (maybe by Galeem) is fighting against Pit and Marth, and when the situation is dire she appears on top of a hill with an entire army behind her (maybe composed by other Smash characters, since Palutena is among the last characters you can unlock in WoL) coming to rescue them.
Possessed Palutena is a good call.
I imagine we'd get an animated trailer using the same style as the Three Houses cutscenes such as this one.
"Flayn told me she wants to "Smash Bros." Edelgard, I beg you, please investigate where she heard such vulgar language."
Unless this reveal is meant to segue into one for Byleth too, this is kind of lacking in buildup or misdirection.
