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Echoes between Worlds - Princess Hilda Support Thread

DeltaSceptile

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Kind of a **** move to bash other characters while trying to bring yours up, you only think they deserve more of a spot because those are the only zelda games you played, Skull kid is extremely iconic, and has as much personality as they do. Also skull kid was in 3 zelda games, and in one spin off, not just one, but you wouldn't know cause you only played two games.
Yeah, but he was only the main character in one from what I’ve seen. Also sorry if I don’t think Skull kid is very likely, I just think that if their going with an iconic pick, it would be Impa, as she would be a lot easier to implement as a semi-clone of Sheik, and has appeared in more than double the games (granted her appearance has changed several times) that Skull Kid has.
Also your argument against skull kid can be flipped on Hilda she was also a one off villain. Tetra was also a one off to extent aswell, alot of zelda characters are, so why are you trying to make it seem like some are more worthy than others.
Yeah, but they both have clone potential, meaning they are way easier to implement, and I’m sure no one would complain about their inclusion as having the echo label makes people not have to hate characters for “taking up spots”
 
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Yeah, but he was only the main character in one from what I’ve seen. Also sorry if I don’t think Skull kid is very likely, I just think that if their going with an iconic pick, it would be Impa, as she would be a lot easier to implement as a semi-clone of Sheik, and has appeared in more than double the games (granted her appearance has changed several times) that Skull Kid has.

Yeah, but they both have clone potential, meaning they are way easier to implement, and I’m sure no one would complain about their inclusion as having the echo label makes people not have to hate characters for “taking up spots”
Yes please fill the Zelda series up with even more clones, that would be awesome.
Who the hell would tetra echo?
Also Skull kid is way more likely than you think, if you could sit back and look objectively at the evidence it would be super obvious,
Well just because you think somethings not iconic doesn't mean it's not sorry.
 

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Yes please fill the Zelda series up with even more clones, that would be awesome.
Who the hell would tetra echo?
Also Skull kid is way more likely than you think, if you could sit back and look objectively at the evidence it would be super obvious,
Well just because you think somethings not iconic doesn't mean it's not sorry.
Ok, so I guess Tetra couldn’t be much of an echo, unless you really tried hard to make it work on toon link. But you can’t argue that it would be cool to have her in. Also what evidence points to Skull Kid? I’d like to know, because just because we haven’t seen the AT doesn’t mean it’s not there, and if you try to say the background of the previous direct, don’t because that could just as easily be pointing to Shantae, who would easily generate more hype being the first indie character to make a playable appearance (that’s a much bigger deal than another Zelda rep)
 
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Ok, so I guess Tetra couldn’t be much of an echo, unless you really tried hard to make it work on toon link. But you can’t argue that it would be cool to have her in. Also what evidence points to Skull Kid? I’d like to know, because just because we haven’t seen the AT doesn’t mean it’s not there, and if you try to say the background of the previous direct, don’t because that could just as easily be pointing to Shantae.
The background doesn't point to Shantae, but whatever, the background doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things,
i did some research and found out, each Zelda assist trophy is from a different title, now this is small but if skull kid was still a assist don't you think they would chose another title in the series to keep this assist trophy representation thing? Now the moon is replacing him because it's redundant to have 2 majoras mask assists in the game, the termina field theme also got remixed, young links final smash is being hidden which i think will be fierce deity and it's being saved for skull kid trailer, and skull kid's final smash is gonna be majoras wrath which those two go very nicely together if you ask me.
when skull kid was announced as assist in smash 4 sakuraimadesure people knew he was a assist early on so people didn't get their hopes up, i think he would have already deconfirmed him by now if he was still a assist cause he knows it's highly requested. In fact skull kid's assist was the first revealed for smash 4, Item's like the evil ramblin mushroom is replacing some of his abilities.
MM was Aonumas first Zelda game as director, and he still remains in charge the series making it an important game for Nintendo.
A lot of Demand for Skull Kid to be playable in Hyrule Warriors, which had a lot of excitement when Koei Tecmo finally added him to the game.
 
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i did some research and found out, each Zelda assist trophy is from a different title, now this is small but if skull kid was still a assist don't you think they would chose another title in the series to keep this assist trophy representation thing? Now the moon is replacing him because it's redundant to have 2 majoras mask assists in the game, the termina field theme also got remixed, young links final smash is being hidden which i think will be fierce deity and it's being saved for skull kid trailer, and skull kid's final smash is gonna be majoras wrath which those two go very nicely together if you ask me.
Ok? That assist thing is just another fan rule waiting to be broken, and no it wouldn’t be redundant to have two majora’s mask assists if they do different things. That was then, this is now. And now there is still one last massacre waiting to happen. Not many other characters left who could actually get promoted. Kat&Ana, Isaac, Shadow, and Isabelle are the only other ones in that competition currently though, which could help his situation. But honestly do you know how boring this smash game’s speculation period would be if we only got the top fan picks? That’s why I wouldn’t get too hype. You saw what happened to the Ashley community, don’t let it happen to the Skull Kid fans. Most Skull Kid popularity can be chalked up to simple bandwagon at this point just because the assist happens to be missing (although I’ll admit, he does have some real popularity mixed in there, but if he gets deconfirmed I guarantee you will see a drop in popularity). So what? Isaac was extremely popular too, and he was completely skipped in smash 4 after being present in brawl (didn’t even get a simple trophy). Popularity isn’t going to give Skull Kid a free spot, and people should figure that out before assuming anything.
 
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Ok? That assist thing is just another fan rule waiting to be broken, and no it wouldn’t be redundant to have two majora’s mask assists if they do different things. That was then, this is now. And now there is still one last massacre waiting to happen. Not many other characters left who could actually get promoted. Kat&Ana, Isaac, Shadow, and Isabelle are the only other ones in that competition currently though, which could help his situation. But honestly do you know how boring this smash game’s speculation period would be if we only got the top fan picks? That’s why I wouldn’t get too hype. You saw what happened to the Ashley community, don’t let it happen to the Skull Kid fans. Most Skull Kid popularity can be chalked up to simple bandwagon at this point just because the assist happens to be missing (although I’ll admit, he does have some real popularity mixed in there, but if he gets deconfirmed I guarantee you will see a drop in popularity). So what? Isaac was extremely popular too, and he was completely skipped in smash 4 after being present in brawl (didn’t even get a simple trophy). Popularity isn’t going to give Skull Kid a free spot, and people should figure that out before assuming anything.
Can't you see that he's a assist trophy being replaced like shadow and Isabelle . and it would be redudant in terms of whole Zelda series representation
Ashley situation is different to skull kid, he has solid evidence Ashley's evidence was terrible, and I wanted her it was jsut "she's popular and her assist is missing" skull kid has wayyyyyy more evidence. They're going for popular picks this time around. Your arguments are not that valid.
Okay you wouldnt get hype but everyone else would why should smash characters cater to you?
Plus it would not be boring we usually never get to many top picks but we are now, like krool which you're gonna main!, so obviously a popular character wasn't boring for you so far, your arguments for him not being in is YOU not wanting him in.
You're just being **** for no reason, cause you don't want a character in a game, and you had to go out of your way to **** on a character out of context because you don't want them.
Hell your original post was about how you didnt like him
FYI probably not gonna respond after this post because augmenting on the internet gets exhausting after awhile.
 
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Man, why does all the crazy stuff always happen while I'm asleep?

Let's get this clear, this is the Hilda Support Thread, not the disparage other character's thread.

With the possible exception of Chrom, no character has ever denied another character's appearance (and that got resolved come 8/8/2018) so let's keep things civil and friendly.

Here's to topic to get things rolling, what do you like about Hilda?
For me, it's that she's an interesting look at what Zelda would be without Wisdom, while remembering that intelligence and wisdom are two different things. Saying any more would be spoiling.
 

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With the possible exception of Chrom, no character has ever denied another character's appearance (and that got resolved come 8/8/2018) so let's keep things civil and friendly.
And the Chrom / Robin thing was because they were heroes from the same game, not to mention that Chrom finally got his chance through echoes, as originality was his problem.

Anyway...

Here's to topic to get things rolling, what do you like about Hilda?
Personally I mentionned it earlier, but it's her role in the game that I like, and she is also another serious version of Zelda. This and her theme of course (not mention Lorule Castle's theme).
 

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Man, why does all the crazy stuff always happen while I'm asleep?

Let's get this clear, this is the Hilda Support Thread, not the disparage other character's thread.

With the possible exception of Chrom, no character has ever denied another character's appearance (and that got resolved come 8/8/2018) so let's keep things civil and friendly.

Here's to topic to get things rolling, what do you like about Hilda?
For me, it's that she's an interesting look at what Zelda would be without Wisdom, while remembering that intelligence and wisdom are two different things. Saying any more would be spoiling.
it was quite interesting that each of the lorule counterparts were missing the main trait of the hyrule versions
 

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it was quite interesting that each of the lorule counterparts were missing the main trait of the hyrule versions
Yeah it is.

Yuga lacks power, relying on backstabbing and one, albeit effective, magic trick.
Hilda lacks Wisdom so while she ultimately wants to save her world, she worked with Yuga and deviced Link in order to take Hyrule's Triforce
Ravio, Link's counterpart, lacked the courage to stand up to Hilda and fled to Hyrule to find someone who could.

In the end, Yuga absorbed Ganon, Hilda and two thirds of the triforce but for all the power gained was outdone by Link using the light arrows and Yuga's own gimmick against him.
Ravio was able to find the courage to tell Hilda that she's being no better than those that plotted to steal Lorule's triforce in the past.
Hilda is able to see the error in her ways and sends Link and Zelda back to their own world, accepting the fate of her world with dignity..

Link and Zelda, with the Triforce reassembled, wish for Lorule's Triforce to return, restoring the ruined land.

Amazing how a story can get so much deeper in the last twenty minutes.
 

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Can't you see that he's a assist trophy being replaced like shadow and Isabelle . and it would be redudant in terms of whole Zelda series representation
Ashley situation is different to skull kid, he has solid evidence Ashley's evidence was terrible, and I wanted her it was jsut "she's popular and her assist is missing" skull kid has wayyyyyy more evidence. They're going for popular picks this time around. Your arguments are not that valid.
Okay you wouldnt get hype but everyone else would why should smash characters cater to you?
Plus it would not be boring we usually never get to many top picks but we are now, like krool which you're gonna main!, so obviously a popular character wasn't boring for you so far, your arguments for him not being in is YOU not wanting him in.
You're just being **** for no reason, cause you don't want a character in a game, and you had to go out of your way to **** on a character out of context because you don't want them.
Hell your original post was about how you didnt like him
FYI probably not gonna respond after this post because augmenting on the internet gets exhausting after awhile.
You do realize we can get both right? And were Simon, and ESPECIALLY Richter popularity picks? I might not like Skull Kid, and I’ll openly say it, doesn’t do anything to his chances. He could still happen, whatever. Metroid got two new characters, and DK is seemingly going to as well (because if we go by popularity, Dixie Kong heavily overshadowed Dark Samus). It’s not to hard to think we can get multiple characters from a franchise, especially if one takes less work. I, along with most smashers in general have wanted K. Rool for years, and he was literally number one most wanted for almost a decade. Also you’re right about that last part, arguments can get a bit repetitive after a while, sorry for quite possibly dragging this on longer than it had to. :)
 

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Yeah it is.

Yuga lacks power, relying on backstabbing and one, albeit effective, magic trick.
Hilda lacks Wisdom so while she ultimately wants to save her world, she worked with Yuga and deviced Link in order to take Hyrule's Triforce
Ravio, Link's counterpart, lacked the courage to stand up to Hilda and fled to Hyrule to find someone who could.

In the end, Yuga absorbed Ganon, Hilda and two thirds of the triforce but for all the power gained was outdone by Link using the light arrows and Yuga's own gimmick against him.
Ravio was able to find the courage to tell Hilda that she's being no better than those that plotted to steal Lorule's triforce in the past.
Hilda is able to see the error in her ways and sends Link and Zelda back to their own world, accepting the fate of her world with dignity..

Link and Zelda, with the Triforce reassembled, wish for Lorule's Triforce to return, restoring the ruined land.

Amazing how a story can get so much deeper in the last twenty minutes.
yeah it was a great story
 

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Man, why does all the crazy stuff always while I'm asleep?

Let's get this clear, this is the Hilda Support Thread, not the disparage other character's thread.

With the possible exception of Chrom, no character has ever denied another character's appearance (and that got resolved come 8/8/2018) so let's keep things civil and friendly.

Here's to topic to get things rolling, what do you like about Hilda?
For me, it's that she's an interesting look at what Zelda would be without Wisdom, while remembering that intelligence and wisdom are two different things. Saying any more would be spoiling.
I can chime in!
So, if you were to ask me, Hilda and Ravio are two of the best characters in the entire Zelda franchise, whether it be their designs or their characterization. Simply put, I was enraptured by how they were written. They prove that there is so much more to the concepts of courage and wisdom than their conventional definitions. As you play through the game as Link more and more, you realize that Hilda's missives and messages are, while at first glance a benign beseeching for help, have a hidden bitterness to them. She is envious of Hyrule's prosperity, she covets the wonders and brightness of the Triforce, and she will stop at nothing - absolutely nothing - to ensure her kingdom's survival. Though it's easy to see coming, the crumbling of her facade at the end is no less meaningful and you as the player personally feel the repercussions of Lorule's tragic history.

What you DON'T see coming - or I didn't at least - is when Ravio cheerfully flies in with Sheerow, a bag of riches over his shoulder and his usual charm over the other. His bunny mask falls away and it's revealed that he's Link's Lorule counterpart. In a way, he's "dark" Link. And that's what I love about both him and Hilda. They are the dark counterparts, but that doesn't have to necessarily mean darkness in the expected sense. You know, the edginess of someone like Shadow to Sonic, or Dark Samus to Samus, or even the previous incarnation of Dark Link to Link back in OoT. In this case, it's darkness in the most substantial interpretation possible: Ravio, though overtly a coward, has his own brand of courage - one in which he risks treason, in which he traverses dimensions without any guarantee he'll ever make it home, just so he has the chance of helping both Hilda and Lorule through such troubled times.

Hilda, though her ambition and desperation have seized her and caused her to make these extreme decisions, in her heart of hearts just wanted to see her people thrive again. And so when Ravio comes back, when Link and Zelda selflessly restore Lorule using their Triforce, she is overcome. Her particular brand of wisdom is one of, dare I say, self-awareness. At first, she CERTAINLY isn't very aware of her own actions, but she learns from her mistakes at the conclusion. She was prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice - of herself and her own integrity - just to keep things from falling apart. Her wisdom is a more realistic sort than Zelda's: it's one that understands the harsh realities of the world and only comes about from experience, and trial and error. Long story short, Link Between Worlds is a game that shows people there's always more to someone than meets the eye, and labels are meant to be discarded in favor of real motivation, and that's why I love Hilda and Ravio so much.

*Deep breath* Okay I'm done I'm sorry I ramble so much I suck but that's why I really want Hilda in as an Echo Fighter lol
 

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I can chime in!
So, if you were to ask me, Hilda and Ravio are two of the best characters in the entire Zelda franchise, whether it be their designs or their characterization. Simply put, I was enraptured by how they were written. They prove that there is so much more to the concepts of courage and wisdom than their conventional definitions. As you play through the game as Link more and more, you realize that Hilda's missives and messages are, while at first glance a benign beseeching for help, have a hidden bitterness to them. She is envious of Hyrule's prosperity, she covets the wonders and brightness of the Triforce, and she will stop at nothing - absolutely nothing - to ensure her kingdom's survival. Though it's easy to see coming, the crumbling of her facade at the end is no less meaningful and you as the player personally feel the repercussions of Lorule's tragic history.

What you DON'T see coming - or I didn't at least - is when Ravio cheerfully flies in with Sheerow, a bag of riches over his shoulder and his usual charm over the other. His bunny mask falls away and it's revealed that he's Link's Lorule counterpart. In a way, he's "dark" Link. And that's what I love about both him and Hilda. They are the dark counterparts, but that doesn't have to necessarily mean darkness in the expected sense. You know, the edginess of someone like Shadow to Sonic, or Dark Samus to Samus, or even the previous incarnation of Dark Link to Link back in OoT. In this case, it's darkness in the most substantial interpretation possible: Ravio, though overtly a coward, has his own brand of courage - one in which he risks treason, in which he traverses dimensions without any guarantee he'll ever make it home, just so he has the chance of helping both Hilda and Lorule through such troubled times.

Hilda, though her ambition and desperation have seized her and caused her to make these extreme decisions, in her heart of hearts just wanted to see her people thrive again. And so when Ravio comes back, when Link and Zelda selflessly restore Lorule using their Triforce, she is overcome. Her particular brand of wisdom is one of, dare I say, self-awareness. At first, she CERTAINLY isn't very aware of her own actions, but she learns from her mistakes at the conclusion. She was prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice - of herself and her own integrity - just to keep things from falling apart. Her wisdom is a more realistic sort than Zelda's: it's one that understands the harsh realities of the world and only comes about from experience, and trial and error. Long story short, Link Between Worlds is a game that shows people there's always more to someone than meets the eye, and labels are meant to be discarded in favor of real motivation, and that's why I love Hilda and Ravio so much.
*Deep breath* Okay I'm done I'm sorry I ramble so much I suck but that's why I really want Hilda in as an Echo Fighter lol
Woah, very well said. I read your whole post and it’s basically my exact feelings for ALBW and it’s characters. Hilda is such a great Zelda character and it’s a shame why so many people hate the idea of her as an echo fighter.

Hilda was a pure ruler who had to experience her kingdom fall to darkness and despair and in the process..she became emotionally impacted and was driven to the absolute extreme (willing to destroy another kingdom and its people to save her own) but in the end, she realizes her mistakes.
 

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Here's to topic to get things rolling, what do you like about Hilda?
I liked how she wasn't just a BWAHAHA I'M EVIL villain and that she was motivated to save her land. Aside from maybe Ganondorf she's probably the most interesting and deep Zelda antagonist.
 

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I hope I don't come across as a faker considering I've never played ALttP, but I really want more Echo Fighter villains in this game and after doing a bit of research Hilda would be an absolutely perfect fit for Ultimate, especially given the ALttP Zelda we have already, sign me up as a supporter!

It's a far-fetched wish of mine but next Direct I hope we see a "March of the Villains" moment where Hilda, Medusa, Black Shadow and the Black Knight all get revealed together. That's a little bit too crazy to be reasonable, but a man can dream can't he?
 

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Here’s everything we have for Hilda to recap:
There is a villains theme going on so far, which might be good. Now on to more secure reasons:
- Ike lost his Chrom costume and Chrom was confirmed. Samus lost the Dark Samus costume and look who decided to show up? Zelda had her design changed to A Link Between Worlds, yet there isn’t a Hilda-Based alt. This can also apply to Peach as of now, seeing as Daisy has been confirmed and we still haven’t seen the costume yet. (This is the biggest reason by far)
- Echo fighters are easy to make
- haven’t gotten any new Zelda reps since brawl, and Hilda actually has a personality so she may be looked at by Sakurai.
 

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its funny how 3 out of 8 new comers are villains and everyone thinks this is the new trend
 

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its funny how 3 out of 8 new comers are villains and everyone thinks this is the new trend
I think it was mainly the K. Rool trailer that put the theme in there. But we all know that more villains are very likely right now, mainly Shadow, but we could easily get more than just him.
 

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- Ike lost his Chrom costume and Chrom was confirmed. Samus lost the Dark Samus costume and look who decided to show up? Zelda had her design changed to A Link Between Worlds, yet there isn’t a Hilda-Based alt. This can also apply to Peach as of now, seeing as Daisy has been confirmed and we still haven’t seen the costume yet. (This is the biggest reason by far)
The nuance with this is that Zelda never had a Hilda color in the first place. Despite the design chance, she retains all of her colors, in the same order. Obviously, the ALttP reference became a TP reference.
But colors do not matter that much, Pit and Dark Pit both have a black and white color respectively.
 

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The nuance with this is that Zelda never had a Hilda color in the first place. Despite the design chance, she retains all of her colors, in the same order. Obviously, the ALttP reference became a TP reference.
But colors do not matter that much, Pit and Dark Pit both have a black and white color respectively.
Yeah unfortunately it seems she never had a hilda inspired costume, however this new purple/black one is likely not meant to represent Hilda because there’s so many colours that are off. If anything, it’s just dark Zelda. It’s weird that they changed her design to this ALBW/ALTTP and no Hilda costume.
 

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Yeah unfortunately it seems she never had a hilda inspired costume, however this new purple/black one is likely not meant to represent Hilda because there’s so many colours that are off. If anything, it’s just dark Zelda. It’s weird that they changed her design to this ALBW/ALTTP and no Hilda costume.
Well, the costume order is the same since Brawl actually, and there's already the Dark Zelda. (note: I love how Smash Ultimate revert the dark zelda jewelry to blue, instead of a more generic evil purple).

To me, Zelda have no Hilda colors for two reasons.
First, and it's stupid: it's Zelda, and Zelda stays Zelda.
Secondly: We already have OoT3DS and TP alt colors, as well as the Dark Zelda. That's a lot of purple, and I believe that having a Zelda reference was a priority over a Hilda reference. OoT3D being purple with red lines, I can see why we don't have it. Although the white part of the dress is now pink (making the alt way better than Smash 4 weird color choices for OoT3D reference)
 
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Well, the costume order is the same since Brawl actually, and there's already the Dark Zelda. (note: I love how Smash Ultimate revert the dark zelda jewelry to blue, instead of a more generic evil purple).

To me, Zelda have no Hilda colors for two reasons.
First, and it's stupid: it's Zelda, and Zelda stays Zelda.
Secondly: We already have OoT3DS and TP alt colors, as well as the Dark Zelda. That's a lot of purple, and I believe that having a Zelda reference was a priority over a Hilda reference. OoT3D being purple with red lines, I can see why we don't have it. Although the white part of the dress is now pink (making the alt way better than Smash 4 weird color choices for OoT3D reference)
That makes sense actually, hmmmm... and they probably also didn’t make her an alt version like Alph and the Koopalings because their magic and skills are completely different so it wouldn’t fit Hilda. Either Hilda would’ve been an echo or nothing at all it seems. Sadly she got popular when it was already too late and the game and it’s characters were decided long ago. I feel if she had been requested the way she’s now maybe Sakurai would’ve implemented her in the game but people obviously didn’t expect to see Zelda in the new ALBW/ALTTP design.
 

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If she doesn’t appear this game there’s always the next game right? (I’m sure they’ll make another one but long from now)
 

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If she doesn’t appear this game there’s always the next game right? (I’m sure they’ll make another one but long from now)
Even before that, there's DLC.

Namely, they make a new Zelda stage for DLC and package it with Hilda.

Anyone got ideas for a Link between Worlds stage?
 

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A Dark World one might work. The stage goes from the peaceful Hyrule Castle to the treacherous Lorule Castle filled with hazards and back again.
This. The transition effect would look really cool, too.

Or something similar (a transition Hyrule / Lorule) but with Link's house as a stage instead, and the castle in the background.
 

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A Link Between Worlds is one of my favorite games of all time. I would love to see Hilda in Smash. Add me to the supporters list.
 

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how would you all feel about a mega Zelda reveal that reveals Impa, Demise, Ravio and Hilda as echo fighters and Skull Kid as unique all while playing to the 2017 Botw trailer theme https://youtu.be/GJm2k1yI-Zw
Something along the lines of this, but obviously with better direction https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76959525
I'm not sure who Ravio would Echo and I'd prefer Toon Ganondorf over Demise, personally but I think the general concept would be cool.
 
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I'd love to play as Hilda in Smash Ultimate, she is actually my most wanted Echo Fighter. Zelda doesn't have a Hilda Skin - this boosts her chances of being a seperate fighter for sure. Shortly after the E3 presentation I already said her chances are extremely high and that she is the 3rd most likely Echo Fighter (just behind Dark Samus and Chrom). I love A Link Between Worlds, I love Hilda's theme and I love Hilda & her plottwist in the game. I even think one big reason why they chose the ALBW-design (instead of the TP-design or BotW-design) is so that they can include Hilda as an Echo. It's going to happen, I strongly believe we will see her in Smash.
 

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how would you all feel about a mega Zelda reveal that reveals Impa, Demise, Ravio and Hilda as echo fighters and Skull Kid as unique all while playing to the 2017 Botw trailer theme https://youtu.be/GJm2k1yI-Zw
Something along the lines of this, but obviously with better direction https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76959525
that would be great but itll never happen

I'm not sure who Ravio would Echo and I'd prefer Toon Ganondorf over Demise, personally but I think the general concept would be cool.
hed be an echo of link
 
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Guybrush20X6 Guybrush20X6 sign me up for the Hilda support.

Hilda has alot of momentum, first off Zelda is in her LBTW attire so that makes Hilda her counterpart very likely to happen.

Also Skullkid's rumors suggest more Zelda characters and who better to echo a new Zelda character than Princess Zelda herself and Hilda is the perfect choice for her echo.

Hilda would be so awesome. Instead of the phantom knight, you could give her Ravio as her attack. Then add different Lorule affects to her attacks and maybe Yuga painting as her FS then we might have something.
I was thinking instead of the Phatom, it could be like some sort of phantom of monster Ganon, and Hilda's final smash would be that she summons Ganon like she did in LBTW.
 

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Did you guys see the LeakyPandy leak that says skull kid will be a boss? They literally said they are so sure of it they are willing to put their reputation on the line. This bodes well for Hilda (or Impa, depending how you look at it).
 

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Did you guys see the LeakyPandy leak that says skull kid will be a boss? They literally said they are so sure of it they are willing to put their reputation on the line. This bodes well for Hilda (or Impa, depending how you look at it).
I saw, I also saw a new mess with Loz18 saying that SkullKid is in and Isaac isn't.

I'll wait for someone to properly summarise it when the dust settles.

I'm still of the mind we could get both Hilda and Impa tho.
 

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I saw, I also saw a new mess with Loz18 saying that SkullKid is in and Isaac isn't.

I'll wait for someone to properly summarise it when the dust settles.

I'm still of the mind we could get both Hilda and Impa tho.
I want so badly for both Hilda and Impa to be in, and to be honest, the more you think about it, the more you realize skull kid could easily be a boss.
 
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