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100 characters and no AW rep? Ouch.
Did you switch your rosters accidentally?(Paper Mario)
(Isaac)
DLC: (Goku) (Spongebob) (Shrek)
Oh, my bad. I left Shaq
out of my ideal roster! No wonder you thought I switched them.
I thought "Darker Pit" would have made it obvious.
Your roster did remind me how I want Caeda playable though. I'd have put her on my ideal roster, but then I'd have had four Fire Emblem newcomers.Oh, my bad. I left Shaq
I had no idea I wanted this so much until now.I thought "Darker Pit" would have made it obvious.
Your roster did remind me how I want Caeda playable though. I'd have put her on my ideal roster, but then I'd have had four Fire Emblem newcomers.
A Pegasus Knight in Smash would be awesome though, considering they're series staples.
The only time iconic comes in to play is if the character is an icon of sorts and hardly any character fits that criteria anymore. Rare examples of this would be Diddy in Brawl and Mac in Smash 4.I had no idea I wanted this so much until now.
However, the way Sakurai picks characters pretty much excludes any pegasus knight from getting into Smash unless they're a main character from a recently released game. I wonder if he'll get rid of that criteria and put in more iconic characters with legacy like Caeda, K. Rool, Isaac, etc. instead of just the freshest new characters on the block.
Cory transcends all of fiction and reality.
He's gotta open up a can of Shaq Fu.
What was your reasoning for removing the third party DLC characters? Including ballot winner Bayonetta?Thoughts?
Not a concious decision to remove all third party DLC characters in that sense, but I still consider third parties guest characters. Sonic is just really tight-knit with Nintendo these days, as was Mega-Man before and Pac was requested by Miyamoto during Brawl IIRC, which is why I left those three on there.
Aren't Street fighter, Final Fantasy and Bayonetta really tight-knit too though?
But him bringing up Mega Man is fine?
Not really... unless this is like 1994...
Mega Man is dead right now but up until then Nintendo platforms were its most frequent source of content, weren't they?
IIRC, the last FF on a Nintendo console was VI. Ever since, it's found home on PlayStation. That's how much, 10 games?
He kind of did for a while.
What about all the other Final Fantasy games like the spin offs? They're almost exclusively Nintendo.
I don't see why ports are a bad thing exactly.
I have a feeling we won't be waiting too much longer.
Street Fighter 2? Sure. The rest of Street Fighter? Not really. Nintendo seriously never got 3, 4, or 5. Just the first one and about 1000 different iterations of SF2.
Nintendo got 4 and the Alpha series (which are canon). No one got SF1. It was arcade only and for good reason.
But the spin offs still appear on Nintendo platforms and if that doesn't count Sakurai wouldn't have said Cloud appeared on Nintendo consoles.
So far. I have a feeling Bayonetta will stick around for quite a while.
Pac-Man games have always been multiplat.
Explain, because the Pac-Man games don't have a HUGE Nintendo original title like Street Fighter (SFII), Final Fantasy (FFI-FFVI) and Bayonetta (2) have.
I don't really care which three Fire Emblem reps are there in my roster, I only kept Ike because I thought he was more popular than Robin. But if Robin's really that important, then whatever, Robin stays then. It doesn't matter to me.Fire Emblem fandom aside for a moment, and in all seriousness, I just wanted to say something about the Robin thing.
PsychoJosh
Obviously I know it's your roster and obviously it comes down to your personal choice (hell, I cut Zero Suit Samus from mine because I dislike duplicate identities, and Captain Falcon just because I didn't like him...I fully understand the personal choice aspect, and I have no room to attack you there). That being said I believe keeping Robin is very important, even if the series is only cut down to two veterans. Fire Emblem has always been a sort of "sword and sorcery" type of tactical series. By getting rid of Robin, half of that is cut out.
So honestly, I think if you don't have any attachment to any Fire Emblem character, want to cut the six veterans down to two and add a newcomer, and who is picked doesn't matter too much, I'd say it'd be more beneficial to the roster itself to keep Marth and Robin more than Marth and Ike. Yes, Ike is the most popular, but Robin offers more to stand out and helps fully represent the series. With Marth and Robin, you get a mix of Old+New, Swords+Magic.
Just my opinion, really. Obviously if you have more of an attachment to ones on your roster currently, by all means keep them. I'm just saying that if you have no attachments whatsoever, keeping Robin over Ike may be more beneficial from a roster diversity standpoint. That's all.
A couple of things... first, Waluigi isn't part of the Wario Land series, he has NEVER appeared in any Wario Land game. Not even once. He's more of a representative of the Mario Sports series along with Daisy, since he was created solely so that Wario would have a doubles partner in Mario Tennis 64.
I didn't know SF4 came out on 3DS. That's my bad. Also forgot about Alpha, and couldve swore 1 was on some console, but I guess I'm wrong on that too. *Shrugs* What can you do?
A couple things.
Well, PM Wario is a good effort, but there's only so much they could've been able to do with him as it is just a romhack. I want a moveset that makes use of his transformations and other powerups from the WL games. I suppose the waft could still be a taunt to troll people with, like it spikes people EXTREMELY hard when they get hit by it in the air, but the hitbox is so small they have to be almost overlapping Wario to get hit by it..
You don't know Tecmo, like Bo, then.
Obvious
Does it matter? He uses the Wario emblem in Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U. I mean I don't think Waluigi is ever going to get in, I just put him in because it's a larger roster and he has potential for a unique move set based on his personality.
Well, I already explained this, but Pauline is an icon of Nintendo's classic history. She was the first damsel in distress and would be a great novelty to have her make a comeback to beat up the other Nintendo characters being what she is, a mostly forgotten damsel.
I would say she's a mixture of Peach & Pac-Man's styles. Deriving material from the Donkey Kong Arcade games, Mario V.S. Donkey Kong (The hammer and mini toys), and her own apparel such as the parasol and purse. It would be interesting to see the parasol use as a weapon as apposed to a recovery like Peach. There are other things to derive from Donkey Kong as well such as jacks.
I guess you could have Eggman.
I felt like that didn't require mentioning. I didn't mention Robin or Wii Fit Trainer's alternate genders either because it was kind of obvious.
Waluigi is not classified as a Wario character in Smash Wii U/3DS. The instance you likely remember is from the direct where assist trophies were shown off. Waluigi erroneously has the Wario series emblem. This is corrected in-game.
Does his Final Smash involve biting his competitors' ears off?I think you're forgetting someone.
Where did you get that idea?
I just figure that there are other Mario and Donkey Kong characters who'd likely get in before she does. Even as a possible Retro character, there are other contenders who may be picked first, such as Takamaru who Sakurai has considered several times already. I don't think she's an impossibility, just very, very low in terms of likelihood.
Well, if we're talking about a realistic roster, Super Mario and Donkey Kong already have everybody they need. People like to think that Dixie or King K. Rool is a no-brainer or a necessity, but in reality they are completely unnecessary. When you have DK & Diddy then it doesn't get much better than that. No other character in the DK universe is on the level that those two are nor are any as recurring or iconic.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Pauline and agree that she has merit, my point was more so that her avenue for making it into Smash would likely be as a retro character because she lacks the fan demand of Mario and DK characters who would be included on a combination of said demand and their merit.
Couldn't agree more.
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Reminds me of pre-Brawl rosters where people defended them with "If Melee could double 64's roster, then there's no reason Brawl can't quadruple Melee's."
