early damage

[raven26x]

Does anyone have any advice on ways to get early damage with falcon? The main person I play against mains marth and he just dodges around smash attacks and slashes away my grabs.

 

[Kaizer]

d-throw to u-throw to combos (nair, uair and so on) works OK. I'm not an expert on the Captain, though. Just DD/Mindgame to grab 8D

 

[Psychoace]

When he attempts a smash spot dodge and punish.

 

[abit_rusty]

dd and grab like kaizer said, well timed + well spaced stomps/nairs work too. I wouldn't go for the spot dodge with cf i dont trust the lag >.>

 

[Psychoace]

dd and grab like kaizer said, well timed + well spaced stomps/nairs work too. I wouldn't go for the spot dodge with cf i dont trust the lag >.>

If it's a noob using marth most of the time it'll work. I'm not saying it's solid but yeah..

 

[geemann2236]

Just run towards the nub Marth, WD away when he FSmashes at you, and hit him with a knee. Works for me every time. Against a good Marth, you obviously need to use Mindgames with your DD and WD. And don't use Smashes, CF has lousy smashes with high lag, Wavegrabs work like a charm on Marth, and Nairs/Stomps are pretty good against Marth. Avoid using Uair when you're off the stage bcuz Marth has his Dair Spike.

 

[Samus247]

sounds like you're playing the aggressor. I'd push him to the edge and shield grab. Simply put, your opponent can do something against anything you have if he knows it's coming. work on making your approach less obvious. try to draw him out

 

[Layupfreak]

d-throw to u-throw to combos (nair, uair and so on) works OK. I'm not an expert on the Captain, though. Just DD/Mindgame to grab 8D

^This

 

[the CRAB]

dont wd away from the fsmash. you'll eat a tipper.

go read g-reg's thread.

 

[RazeveX]

Just run away until he puts his guard down.

Then....

FALCON PUUUUNCH!!!!

 

[RobertSunx]

Dash Dance and then dthrow, and the fun starts there ^^

 

[Mokumo]

dude just knee them

 

[Layupfreak]

Dash Dance and then dthrow, and the fun starts there ^^

dude. its called narb

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

okay... marth's weakness is his lag. if you can bait anything you can punish it. marth's invincibility frames on his dodges arent that good. the lag after every move is high. just DD and force his attack then run in and grab/knee/nair. if he jumps, run at him and shield. you can then shield grab him, as marth's only anti-shield grab is his spacing.

 

[Roman.]

If you shield marth's fsmash, I noticed that you can get in a knee from the lag if you time it right.

 

[Kips]

His U-Airs seem to be nice for racking up damage, as well as simple hit and run until the percentages start to climb.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

if you shield marth's fsmash you can wd into grab. actually, you can pretty much do anything, it has a ton of lag. but yes, shield and grab marth. vs marth is the only match with any character i suggest shield grabbing these days.

 

[ch_checkmeout]

I like standing still at the beignning of the match. It fakes my friends out sometimes, And when they get close enough, I do a JC grab.


Oh, and I have about 11 friends who play smash. Of which, 6 play Marth. So maybe it's just a Marth strategy lol

 

[D.B]

okay... marth's weakness is his lag. if you can bait anything you can punish it. marth's invincibility frames on his dodges arent that good. the lag after every move is high. just DD and force his attack then run in and grab/knee/nair. if he jumps, run at him and shield. you can then shield grab him, as marth's only anti-shield grab is his spacing.

if you shield marth's fsmash you can wd into grab. actually, you can pretty much do anything, it has a ton of lag. but yes, shield and grab marth. vs marth is the only match with any character i suggest shield grabbing these days.

What he said ^

 

[xYz]

i like to mindgame the raptor boost at an early % to either uair/ or upsmash just depends... then I continue to combo, and usually cap it off with a knee.

 

[Kips]

Is there any way to effectively utilize the Raptor Boost as an edgeguard or are you just going to miss and die horribly? I know it's inferior to a lot of things for CF's edgeguard but I was just wondering.

 

[D.B]

You die unless you hit you with there up B at the same time as you spike them.

 

[Kips]

Ouch. I'll stick to the Knee then. U-Airs combined with F-Throws were a crux of my early damage in 64. It might still work in Melee.

 

[D.B]

forward throw? Unless they're mid or high damage and don't tech I don't think you can combine it with an up air? You can always use down air or if its like fox or falco just back air. Marth = light shield = win

 

[TheManaLord]

no forward throw just down throw

 

[D.B]

Well around 70-80% i think you up throw to knee and then if they have good DI you have to edgeguard otherwise i think they die

 

[TheManaLord]

uthrow and dthrow knee combo's are di dependent so just do it all the time and look for your opportunity

 

[Kips]

0.0 Everyone has the same avatar! Alright, so basically every combo we do should end in a Knee right? When would a U-Air be better to use over a Knee?

 

[pyroroth]

0.0 Everyone has the same avatar! Alright, so basically every combo we do should end in a Knee right? When would a U-Air be better to use over a Knee?

when they are too high for the knee XD

 

[Kips]

Captain Falcon would just Falcon PUUUUNCH the stage so that they'd be facing his Knee and then *BAM*.

Game Over. Continue?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

uair when they DI too far for you to knee. uair has the most priority and range of falcon's aerials.