Derp, smashboards ate my GLG post. Meh. This is the abbreviated ISO.
Wouldn't it make more sense to randomly get rid of the people that are difficult to read instead of the ones who you can easily read?
GLG's third post (out of 9) and the first one he actually contributes anything worth mentioning.
Non content. Just some comments about game mechanics/strategy.
Honestly, I didn't want to participate in the whole RVS thing, but I'm pretty sure we're out of it now.
I wasn't encouraging it in 43, I was questioning PFP's absurdly dumb logic.
It would be contributing to rvs because i'd be responding to an rvs vote with another dumb vote.
@Asid: I don't particurally find it helpful to make a random vote in a game after a certain point in time that varies from game to game.
Next few posts he just talks about his dislike for RVS and again tries to talk about the legitimacy in strategy behind using such a phase. Makes a comment that PFP was using dumb logic in passing, but refrains from clarifying whether that makes PFP scum and also does not place his vote anywhere despite acknowledging the game was out of RVS.
All of this. The top half is a catty sarcastic question that is basically "you're wrong wrong wrong wrong i'm right."
the second part you're just flat out attacking him.
You really like this whole cliche thing don't you?
GLG finally beings branching out on something besides mechanics and, surprise, its bull. PFP's response to Soup's was a bit over-defensive at most and nowhere near as strong as GLG makes it out to be.
He's right in saying that Sword's second part was a counter-attack, but that has nothing to do with GLG's pointthat PFP was subtly attacking Soup. It was pretty obvious that PFP was just defeating attacking Soup's points on him normally, nothing underhanded about it.
Then singles out one of Soup's fluff posts and comments on it. GLG had never mentioned Soup up until now and had solely focused his attention on PFP.
It does make me think you guys are scum, yes. Not enough so that I would go gun blazing on you guys and call for you guys to be lynched right now, but it makes me want to look at you more.
The points made against soup from what I've seen are(at least when I started this post) "he was too agro in the beginning but now he stopped" which I don't see why that is scum since there isn't really anything that happened yet that would make it reasonable to go full out scum. Although I don't really get is 108 because he says that zacblock didn't something tahts a null read that makes him town.
PFP picks up on what I was talking about wrt GLG not taking a hard stance on him (or anyone for that matter) and responds with this. GLG says he thinks PFP is scum but still doesn't place his vote on the grounds that he isn't sure on his read yet.
Again, mentions Soup but in a different manner this time. He tries to defend Soup by twisting the case on him to "he was too agro in the beginning but now he stopped" and tries to use that as a basis to call Soup null. Except, the real reasoning that was presented in thread before GLG's post can be seen
here and
here.
GLG even mentions that he doesn't like 108 because Soup calls zblock town for a null-tell, which means he is aware of Ryker's points, yet still breaks down the Soup case as basless for attacking him solely because "he was too agro in the beginning but now he stopped." Dislike.
GLG is giving special attention to Soup and has been trying to defend him without making it look like he is actually in his corner. I would have normally just overlooked this but it stuck out at me during my Soup ISO and it lines up with the type of scumbuddy defending I would expect out of GLG.
Alright, I'm here. Anyway I don't really have many questions to ask but I do have reads on several players so I'll go ahead and give you guys the reads so you can be happy.
In order of the player list:
1. Acid Dough (Asdioh / WashedLaundry)- Not really a fan of these two. They come in here mildly and are delayed in making their first post and suddenly go in guns blazing and vote soup for saying you don't always have to be doing something even though they themselves didn't actually do anything at that point in time either which makes no sense to me. I'm probably just making a huge deal out of nothing since I'm sure as you guys get more active you will do work but I just found that interesting.
2. giraffelasergun- *insert comment about how this is myself*
3. Chaco Who?
4. ZacBlock (T-Block / UTDZac) Something about your guys playstyle doesn't strike a good tone to me. I get the feeling that you guys ask questions not becuase you think the person you're asking them is a wolf, but you ask them so that you appear to be scumhunting while making the other people look worse. Can you guys give me a quick summary as to why you're voting me again?
5. Ryker You have several people attacking you for dumb reasons which makes me want to think you're town.
6. DatHydra (Seikend / t3hkuzinator) I'll have to see more of these two to actually decide anything on them.
7. PeopleFacePunch (Joey / Sworddancer) During RVS I thought you guys were stupid and or scum and should go immediately but you've been looking better since, although I do think you guys were a tad over defensive. You aren't my top pick for today.
8. ~The Savage Nymph~ (Gova / J) I really, really, really don't like your vote on Ryker. From what I've read, you guys are the only ones that feel the way you do about ZacBlock and you just call him out for lying. Granted you do have other posts that are incriminating towards ryker, but the vote post itself was what i found worse.
9. Soupamario I think soup's town.
Brief version:
Chaco, DH, and Asid Wash are null.
Soup and Ryker town. PFP might be town.
I feel like TSN and ZacBlock are probably scum, but the way they interact with each other I don't think they'd be on the same scum team. However, imo they are the two scummiest players right now.
Going with Vote: ZacBlock.
uhguhguhgughughgugghughgughughgugh @ the bolded. Says he doesn't like AW on the grounds that he came in guns blazing on Soup (notice how he brings everything back to Soup?) and then at the end of the freaking paragraph discounts everything he just said and says its probably nothing to worry about. This is exactly what I was talking about above with him subtly defending Soup without trying to make it look like he's actually on his side.
lol @ his omgus on ZacBlock. Pretty easy to make statements such as "your questions look like you're just trying to appear to scumhunt" but its tough to back them up. I looked over ZacBlock's posts that came before this and I definitely didn't get a sense of fake scumhunting from that slot. Uses this as a basis to vote ZB and says "his playstyle doesn't strike a good tone to me."
Just notice that GLG is all over the place with many of his reads. For instance, his PFP read says "I thought you were grody early game, but you've since gotten better, but you were still a tad over defensive, but you aren't my top pick for today." His SN read is "I don't like your vote on Ryker, yet you do have some incriminating posts from him, but I still don't like your vote anyway." Like he's literally all over the place with his accusations (and somehow calls Ryker town despite acknowledging that SN had good points on him) and then look at his Soup read.
9. Soupamario I think soup's town.
Literally out of nowhere. And thats all
she wrote.
Vote: GLG
Want Soup dead equally as much but as I said above I don't want to be hasty wrt his lynch because I have done so in the past with others replacing out and gotten ****ed over for it. Want that slot dead toMorrow even more upon a scumGLG flip.
As explained before we think SN and Ryker are town and we also think that Acid and ZacBlock are leaning that way because their unprompted pushes line up with what we're going for. We're null on both Raptor and PFP mostly because PFP's case on Ryker holds a lot of air (however GLG's push on him and subsequent removal makes me a feel a tad better) and Raptor has been playing the IC, trying to break down and overanalyse fairly simple concepts such as
here. I've never actually seen how Chaco plays to this could be textbook Chaco but it just looks like he's very conscious of asking everyone's thoughts after every point he makes. Seems a little overcautious.
@Raptor: Can you explain your suspicion of SN? I read your post a few times but I still don't really see what you're getting at.
@Ryker: Don't let my town read on you rot. I want you to respond in full to the stuff PFP has brought up against you.
@AW: If you had the chance to shoot Ryker this instant, would you take it?