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DS (Touch Generation) Character?

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probably because Characters and stages need icons.
(the icons actually appear in game)

I don't think that there will be any use of the icon in the game for an AT so if the series doesn't already have an icon, then why bother making one just for dojo?
Yes, but that's only as good an assumption as saying there might be a character, etc. might be represented with the DS Icon.
 

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Yes, but that's only as good an assumption as saying there might be a character, etc. might be represented with the DS Icon.
Like I said, FD and battlefield had their own icons (they weren't the same icon BTW) that no character shared (well... I guess wireframes and Master Hand had FD's but Battlefield was stand-alone)

So the inclusion of it's own symbol just means that the stage has a symbol. Doesn't mean there won't be a DS character (though I doubt there will be as a PC... though as an AT I'd almost garuntee one). It just doesn't prove that there will be one.
 

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Like I said, FD and battlefield had their own icons (they weren't the same icon BTW) that no character shared (well... I guess wireframes and Master Hand had FD's but Battlefield was stand-alone)

So the inclusion of it's own symbol just means that the stage has a symbol. Doesn't mean there won't be a DS character (though I doubt there will be as a PC... though as an AT I'd almost garuntee one). It just doesn't prove that there will be one.

THey had a lot of character, none playable. I say the Smash Icon could represents anything that is not represented by a playable character example: At's, Battlefield, Masterhand, Polygons
 

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Why thank you Chidosengan, I now feel confident in my ability to successfully scare kittens. I shall put this ability to good use.

If that were true wouldn't Sonics logo be the Sega logo and Snakes logo would be Konamis?
It's actually kind of ironic that you say that because Sonic's and Snake's symbols do actually represent the companies that made them. Sonic's head is the symbol for Sonic team and the pointy Fox thing is the symbol for Kojima studios. If their symbols were actually to represent their games, wouldn't it make more sense for Sonic's symbol to be a ring or something?
 

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Why thank you Chidosengan, I now feel confident in my ability to successfully scare kittens. I shall put this ability to good use.


It's actually kind of ironic that you say that because Sonic's and Snake's symbols do actually represent the companies that made them. Sonic's head is the symbol for Sonic team and the pointy Fox thing is the symbol for Kojima studios. If their symbols were actually to represent their games, wouldn't it make more sense for Sonic's symbol to be a ring or something?
Actually, Sonic's icon isn't really the Sonic team logo but is similar
 

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The DS icon could represent Touch Generations. I just noticed the Touch Generations logo is different in Japan, North America, and Europe. They could have just use the DS logo because everyone would be familiar with it. The different music choices for the PictoChat stage support this theory, and Touch Generations also fits the icon theory.
That's why that there could be more elements from the Touch Generations games.

Also, you are right about how people would've thought that Game and Watch would be a terrible idea before he was revealed, but we were proven wrong.

It's possible that there will be a Brawl character that will represent Touch Generations, which is an important part of Nintendo, like Game and Watch was.
 

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Actually, Sonic's icon isn't really the Sonic team logo but is similar
Ummm... it's obviously not the exact logo, but it is the symbol for sonic team. Plus, I guess you can't see the whites of Sonic's eyes, but basically it is the symbol for sonic team.
 

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THey had a lot of character, none playable. I say the Smash Icon could represents anything that is not represented by a playable character example: At's, Battlefield, Masterhand, Polygons
Like I said: that's wrong.

Battlefield had a different symbol. It wasn't the tradional circle with intersecting lines. It was a spiral pattern of triangles.
 

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There is no "Touch Generation" character that I can think of. If anything this update proved that symbol + stage =/= character.
 

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Like I said: that's wrong.

Battlefield had a different symbol. It wasn't the tradional circle with intersecting lines. It was a spiral pattern of triangles.
It had the Smash logo, so it's not wrong. And more things than that used the Smash logo...

You don't have proof that there IS no DS character or AC character
 

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It had the Smash logo, so it's not wrong. And more things than that used the Smash logo...

You don't have proof that there IS no DS character or AC character
1) No, battlefield had it's own symbol... if you have your copy of melee, look for yourself. I can't find pictures anywhere online and I don't have a digital camara so I'd need someone else to do this for me...

2) you're right. It in no way prooves or even suggests that there is an absence of a DS char. but it also does not prove or suggest that there is.
 

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The Elite Beat Agents are from the Elite Beat Agents franchise, and the Miis are part of the Wii software. There is no "Touch Generation" character.
 

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Kawashima, Dr. Lobe, or Miis (mainly Miis) for Brawl. The Big Brain Academy Wii Degree Box has the "Touch Generations" Logo on it, so it isn't just DS, that is if that's what the logo is showing.
 

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1) No, battlefield had it's own symbol... if you have your copy of melee, look for yourself. I can't find pictures anywhere online and I don't have a digital camara so I'd need someone else to do this for me...

2) you're right. It in no way prooves or even suggests that there is an absence of a DS char. but it also does not prove or suggest that there is.
Battlefield and Final Desitination weren't the only things in Smash that used the Smash Icon, and even more things in Brawl do

and for 2, I never said it did, I'm just suggesting people to open their minds instead of restricting to what they believe is worthy of getting into Smash...which you seem to be
 

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He has his own franchise. If he were to be in, his icon would look something like this:


The DS symbol just represents where Pictochat came from. That's it. Nothing more.

I'm sorry Wiseguy, as much as I love your prediction thread, this is just plain stupid. You, of all people, should know better.
But if the Pictochat stage were solely intended to represent Pictochat, why is the option available to play Mii and Brain Age music?



One possibility is that Sakuraui is lumping all the casual stuff together under one series - with Pictochat as the series map, Kawashima (or someone else) as the series character and the DS as the series icon. It's just a theory, but stranger things have happened.

You may disagree if you wish, Chidosengan. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

As for whether I should "know better", I'm not sure what you mean. I'm just a guy with a character predictions thread, I make mistakes like anyone else. The difference is that, unlike some people on these boards, I don't lose sleep over them.
 

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Red Maniac said:
Elite Beat Agents and Wii Sports are Touch Generations games.
If the Elite Beat Agents were playable they would have the EBA symbol. If Miis were playable characters they would have the Wii symbol. "Touch Generation" is usually applied to the Nintendo DS, as it actually involves, yanno, touch.

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Kawashima, Dr. Lobe, or Miis (mainly Miis) for Brawl. The Big Brain Academy Wii Degree Box has the "Touch Generations" Logo on it, so it isn't just DS, that is if that's what the logo is showing.
Big Brain is also a franchise and would have its own symbol (most probably a brain).

There is no "Touch Generation" character.
 

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If the Elite Beat Agents were playable they would have the EBA symbol. If Miis were playable characters they would have the Wii symbol. "Touch Generation" is usually applied to the Nintendo DS, as it actually involves, yanno, touch.
1. What's the EBA symbol?
2. What's the Wii symbol?
3. Touch Generations is a brand with games aimed to a broader audience, for the DS and Wii.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=14191

There is no "Touch Generation" character.
Yeah... you're right... except for the characters in "Touch Generation" games.
 

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Battlefield and Final Desitination weren't the only things in Smash that used the Smash Icon, and even more things in Brawl do

and for 2, I never said it did, I'm just suggesting people to open their minds instead of restricting to what they believe is worthy of getting into Smash...which you seem to be
I keep telling you that battlefield had it's own symbol... why do you still deny this?
 

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Just popped in my disc of Melee in my Wii.

The icon for Battlefield is just a bunch of triangles.
 

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It had the Smash Icon, but it wasn't the only thing that used the Smash Icon...So what if it used the Smash Icon?
It did not have the smash icon... if you have melee you can see it's icon, it's a spiral of triangles, not the circle with the interscting lines.

Anyway. it had a symbol shared with absolutely nothing else in the game. So I'm just saying that the DS symbol means nothing one way or the other. Not deconfirming, but not confirming either.

(nevermind on spiraling triangles BTW, it looks more like a shattered circle, but still a unique symbol)
 

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It did not have the smash icon... if you have melee you can see it's icon, it's a spiral of triangles, not the circle with the interscting lines.

Anyway. it had a symbol shared with absolutely nothing else in the game. So I'm just saying that the DS symbol means nothing one way or the other. Not deconfirming, but not confirming either.


What the hell are you talking about this is the Smash Icon
 

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Red_Maniac said:
1. What's the EBA symbol?
Whatever they decide it to be; most probably "EBA". This is like asking "what´s the Game & Watch" or "Ice Climbers symbol" before SSBM came out; there was no defined symbol, before the game appeared.

2. What's the Wii symbol?
See above.

3. Touch Generations is a brand with games aimed to a broader audience, for the DS and Wii.
Touch Generation is a label given to the Nintendo DS games that are aimed at a casual audience and employ "innovative", friendly controls. It is not a franchise, and there is no character that was created specifically for the Touch Generation. There are several franchises (such as Brain Age) that fit under the "Touch Generation" brand, as you said, but they are still their own franchises.

Yeah... you're right... except for the characters in "Touch Generation" games.
I insist that there is no Touch Generation character, strictly speaking. Nevertheless, now that I think about it I actually wouldn´t be surprised if Sakurai for some reason decided to include a character such as Dr. Lobe under this new symbol, a representative of the "Touch Generation" instead of Brain Age. I guess it´s possible.

Do not be confused, however; Dr. Lobe still hails from the Brain Age franchise. I repeat, there is no Touch Generation character. This is like saying that there are Nintendo 64 characters; there aren´t, just franchises that had games for the Nintendo 64.
 

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It did not have the smash icon... if you have melee you can see it's icon, it's a spiral of triangles, not the circle with the interscting lines.

Anyway. it had a symbol shared with absolutely nothing else in the game. So I'm just saying that the DS symbol means nothing one way or the other. Not deconfirming, but not confirming either.

(nevermind on spiraling triangles BTW, it looks more like a shattered circle, but still a unique symbol)
However the DS symbol has things it could represent...I have no idea what the symbol of the old Battlefield could represent
 

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Whatever they decide it to be; most probably "EBA". This is like asking "what´s the Game & Watch" or "Ice Climbers symbol" before SSBM came out; there was no defined symbol, before the game appeared.

See above.
Okay.



Touch Generation is a label given to the Nintendo DS games that are aimed at a casual audience and employ "innovative", friendly controls. It is not a franchise, and there is no character that was created specifically for the Touch Generation. There are several franchises (such as Brain Age) that fit under the "Touch Generation" brand, as you said, but they are still their own franchises.
And Wii games...

I insist that there is no Touch Generation character, strictly speaking. Nevertheless, now that I think about it I actually wouldn´t be surprised if Sakurai for some reason decided to include a character such as Dr. Lobe under this new symbol, a representative of the "Touch Generation" instead of Brain Age. I guess it´s possible.

Do not be confused, however; Dr. Lobe still hails from the Brain Age franchise. I repeat, there is no Touch Generation character. This is like saying that there are Nintendo 64 characters; there aren´t, just franchises that had games for the Nintendo 64.
There isn't really any "Game and Watch" character either...

While it is considered to be a series, each Game and Watch game was different from the others, so it's like they were all each a seperate game.

If you really think about it, "Game and Watch" was kind of a brand.

Mr. Game and Watch did not appear in all Game and Watch games, yet he was able to represent almost all of them.

A Mii or EBA or BBA character can represent the Touch Generations brand as a whole, but they obviously can't represent them with their moves like M.GaW. That's where stages, items and ATs come in.
 

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Doesn't anyone listen to me anymore?
I did, but it wasn't me that you needed to convince

@ psycho.

My point isn't that it can't represent something just that, stages don't have to share a symbol with any other aspect of the game so a DS symbol on a stage means one thing and one thing only: there is a DS stage
 

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People, Game & Watch is Icon 14 so the DS has nothing to do with him
 

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No. The icons represent franchises, not characters.

I don't know how people came to the conclusion that the icons immediately confirm that a character will appear for that franchise.
 

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No. The icons represent franchises, not characters.

I don't know how people came to the conclusion that the icons immediately confirm that a character will appear for that franchise.
No one said it did...but it does have the possibility to
 

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Is anyone really reading the posts in this thread? I've seen people ignoring and restating what other people have been saying!

Please, its not a long thread like the Official Sonic Thread or something! Just read through it and not skip over other people's post because you don't agree with them!
 

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I think my first post explained most of it...correct me if there is anything else...
 

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I'd say if any representative was to fill in as the icon 21 slot it would be dr. Lobe

But this is stupid, people and their theories. A stage does not mean a character has to come with it. what this thread is completely based on is making theories to support a theory. That's stupid guys and this stage =/= new character (DS or otherwise)
 
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