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Dragon Ball Mafia - Paperwork Complete! Town + Survivor Victory!

The Stoopid Unikorn

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and I realized that I can't count because I said "2 mafiosos" but I counted the scummy doc that, in this hypotetical situation, would still be alive by the next day,
 

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I hate White too, do not get my wrong, but I know lynching DJ is the logical thing to do.

If DJ ends up being town, then you guys can kill both White and me.
Sorry about the above post pressed post by accident. Anyway I don’t hate white that’s not nice. I just think he’s mafia. As for lynching dj, why? If praline kills him then no problem and we may get two mafiosos for the price of one or at least one. Either way it can be help the town quite well by the end of the day jr we don’t lynch dj and let him be killed. If praline doesn’t do this then we lynch her and dj over the next two phases no big deal.
 

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Stop editing posts dude.
ok ill try. ive done it too much since game 1 tho.
What. I can't hear you :p
Stop editing lol :laugh:


I can't ****ing read lol :laugh:


Praline is already targeting him though.

If he turns out to be the real doc and everyone voted him, praline's death meant nothing and we'd lose our doc.

Sure, we'd know the other doc (you) would be scum in this hypotetical situation, be we would have lost 5 townies by then, and only 2 mafiosos.
Praline can't target DJ. No point. won't prove anything and if he is town she'll just kill herself.
 

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^okay apparently replying to Z25s nothing means that nothing is quoted after I press reply button.
 
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Just checking to make sure it counts, but did you unvote? I don’t remember if you voted but I just wanted to ask so the vote counts.
Yes, I unvoted some posts ago but didn't vote for anyone else.
Among Shish, Unikorn, and Z25 there is at least one mafia I think. This sudden wagon against White as opposed to deciding between the two doctors is suspicious as hell.



Goku is fighting him right now in the show, he's the last one for him to beat to save their universe.
It's a gamble, but I'm leaving DJ's death on Praline's hands. White was already on my suspects list so I want to deal with him now that we have the chance.

If DJ dies today and flips Mafia, expect me to PM you at Night.
If he doesn't and Praline ends up dead, you're the next one to go.
If none of them die, Praline gets her head on the guillotine next.
 

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Sorry about the above post pressed post by accident. Anyway I don’t hate white that’s not nice. I just think he’s mafia. As for lynching dj, why? If praline kills him then no problem and we may get two mafiosos for the price of one or at least one. Either way it can be help the town quite well by the end of the day jr we don’t lynch dj and let him be killed. If praline doesn’t do this then we lynch her and dj over the next two phases no big deal.
Why cant you understand?

This is illogical. U can't do this pretending Praline is town when it is not proven yet. Can you reread what I posted earlier please....

wtf.

Now if praline was proven town, say by Swamp being mafia....sure, id go with this plan myself. But no.
 

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Why cant you understand?

This is illogical. U can't do this pretending Praline is town when it is not proven yet.
If either praline or whoever she targeted dies, we know praline has a day kill ability.

We're actually trying to prove her role!

of course it proves THAT.

It does NOT PROVE PRALINE.
^^^^ if DJ is killed and Praline targets DJ anyway.

I give up.
That's why we need to vote someone else!

^^^^^^^^^^^^lynched . can i go back to editing lmao.
Killed. lynched. Potato, potahto.
 

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Why cant you understand?

This is illogical. U can't do this pretending Praline is town when it is not proven yet. Can you reread what I posted earlier please....

wtf.

Now if praline was proven town, say by Swamp being mafia....sure, id go with this plan myself. But no.
You can’t pretend I’m mafia either. It hasn’t been proven either way.
 
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No matter what happens by the end of the day, we get a confirmed scum.
1-Praline is telling the truth, DJ is Mafia: one(1) scum dies, Holder is confirmed as real Doc and Praline is confirmed as Town Desperado.
2-Praline is telling the truth, DJ is Town: Doc lives and gets their role confirmed, Praline as Town Desperado dies, Holder is confirmed as scum.
3-Praline is lying, no one dies: Praline is confirmed scum but the Doc's identity is still into questioning.
 

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can i go back to editing lmao.
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Because
  • DJ being town means you die
  • DJ being mafia doesn't prove you
  • Killing someone else will 100% prove you since you either die or that someone else dies.
  • kill me this town sucks.
A role like Desperado would make no sense on a mafioso. Even if it has limited uses, it would basically be a free townie kill outside of night phases, which makes no sense.
 

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If someone dies on this day phase, be it praline or whoever she targeted, we have a Desperado.

If no one died, praline lied and we'll take care of that on the next day.
 

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You can’t pretend I’m mafia either. It hasn’t been proven either way.
I know. Hence the second part to the other post where literally every possibility was taken in consideration, ending up with voting DJ (or holder) the best option, while you kill someone else that isn't EITHER of those. That is the best, logical, option.

But you / others are trying to find the loophole I said won't prove you AND/OR keep a mafia member potentially 100% safe (one of the docs). Because the only way, objectively, that they have a 50/50 chance of dying is if town lynches them, NOT you killing them or pretending you can do that.

This is too frustrating.
 

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If someone dies on this day phase, be it praline or whoever she targeted, we have a Desperado.

If no one died, praline lied and we'll take care of that on the next day.
Yes. Thats why she must target someone.

But it cannot be one of the docs.

One of the docs has to be lynched.

That is all.
 

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wait why does one of the doctors have to be lynched lol
 

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Yes. Thats why she must target someone.

But it cannot be one of the docs.

One of the docs has to be lynched.

That is all.
How this sounds is you want me to attack someone that is more likely to be town so that you or one of your mafia teammates don’t get lynched today.
 

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Actually: NonSpecificGuy NonSpecificGuy do you by chance know who swamp talked to last night or within the first night?
Other than myself, no. Not really. I know he talked to you, me, and White. Speaking of:
praline praline

Care to explain.?

I've noticed u were looking at the thread a lot the last day when we were talking about a second vig. But never really said anything.
What the hell man? Why are you outing someone who don't even come close to being a Vigilante. If this is who you were referring to as the second vig then there was still no reason to out them.

Now thanks to you, praline has to kill someone today because if he doesn't he may not live to the next day. Last night made me suspicious of you but right now you're a danger to the town even if your not Mafia. You can't just go around exposing people like that for stuff that's not even close to what you referenced. A Desperado is not a vig. And whether she likes it or not praline HAS to attack someone today. Because it's likely she'll be tonight's target.
 

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A role like Desperado would make no sense on a mafioso. Even if it has limited uses, it would basically be a free townie kill outside of night phases, which makes no sense.
I know, which is why I wanted to lynch the docs last day, NOT the vigilantes...or why I didn't reveal praline being the desperado last day despite Swamp urging me on and praline to target someone, which by now you realised why that would be helpful. If u say u don't I'll quote the posts where u agreed with me / shish.

Its possible desperado is a clever fakeclaim, unlikley, but possible. And not sure about this but I don't think normally there is a desperado AND a vigilante working for the town. Thats why she needs proving, just to be safe.
 

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Proving praline's role doesn't really help her when the primary basis for her suspicion is that the role claim in question is similar in function to one a townie has been revealed to already have.

And before you say "But it's different", note the difference. One is significantly weaker than the other.
 

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I know, which is why I wanted to lynch the docs last day, NOT the vigilantes...or why I didn't reveal praline being the desperado last day despite Swamp urging me on and praline to target someone, which by now you realised why that would be helpful. If u say u don't I'll quote the posts where u agreed with me / shish.

Its possible desperado is a clever fakeclaim, unlikley, but possible. And not sure about this but I don't think normally there is a desperado AND a vigilante working for the town. Thats why she needs proving, just to be safe.
Desperado would be the worst claim though. Why would I claim that when there’s no way I could prove it?
 

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How this sounds is you want me to attack someone that is more likely to be town so that you or one of your mafia teammates don’t get lynched today.
Attack whoever you want.
Just not the docs. For reasons I don't wanna repeat for the 8th time.

And I can say to me this sounds like you are mafia. But I try to play objectively, not subjectively.
 

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Why cant you understand?

This is illogical. U can't do this pretending Praline is town when it is not proven yet. Can you reread what I posted earlier please....

wtf.

Now if praline was proven town, say by Swamp being mafia....sure, id go with this plan myself. But no.
i never said they were town. Either way we can still do good regardless of pralines alignment. We can lunch praline if it really comes down to it, but I would say we probably have all mafia nailed and just need to lynch them.
 

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Proving praline's role doesn't really help her when the primary basis for her suspicion is that the role claim in question is similar in function to one a townie has been revealed to already have.

And before you say "But it's different", note the difference. One is significantly weaker than the other.
imo it does prove it.

but left unproven she needs to go.
 

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Proving praline's role doesn't really help her when the primary basis for her suspicion is that the role claim in question is similar in function to one a townie has been revealed to already have.

And before you say "But it's different", note the difference. One is significantly weaker than the other.
Yeah, but Desperado would make no sense as a mafia fakeclaim because the second you try to prove it, you're ****ed.

A Vigilante fakeclaim at least covers the night kill. A Desperado fakeclaim doesn't help at all when trying to prove it.
 

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i never said they were town. Either way we can still do good regardless of pralines alignment. We can lunch praline if it really comes down to it, but I would say we probably have all mafia nailed and just need to lynch them.
Why do this later?

Have you not realised, we are potentially delaying the lyncing of not only praline, but also the fake doctor.

This means, praline will have to be lynched next.
Then, once again, for the 3rd day, we are left between a 50/50 chance of who is the doctor and which one should we lynch.
If we are wrong, then the mafia lynch is delayed, AGAIN.

Plus I could be one of those lynches before we FINALLY lynch the fake-doc, delaying things further...ultimately giving mafia the win.

I'm bordeline getting myself host killed. Need to watch anime to calm down. See ya.
 

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lunch praline
Um... No vore, please.

Attack whoever you want.
Just not the docs. For reasons I don't wanna repeat for the 8th time.

And I can say to me this sounds like you are mafia. But I try to play objectively, not subjectively.
But targeting the docs is the best option right now because we know one of them is scum.
 

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You know what?

praline praline

You're a desperado, Jiren?

You wanted to kill me, well then try to do so.

I just want DJ lynched right now. >.>
 

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And praline if you are town i'm sorry for outing you, but Ive been pressured too much and thought it would be beneficial now that Swamp died.

Depending what happens at night, I could be going for someone else instead of you. And if DJ isn't mafia then im gonna vote Holder and town can vote me if they want i make bad choices a lot. It would prob be holder since its a guranteed mafia, meaning id be next.
 

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Bah.

Then who else do we lynch?

I have a private reason for White to not go right now.
 
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