Dr. Who Mafia, Endgame! Town wins! The universe is doomed!

[Xivii]

Like there's nothing town about it at all?

 

[Xivii]

Zen what's your take on soup

Probably PR.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Them not being the scum team doesn't mean that Orbo's not scum -_-

I know, but that's not my point. My point is that you were equally confident in both Orbo and pawn being scum. You were wrong about pawn, so why should we think you'll be right about Orbo?

 

[ranmaru]

Soup don't forget to answer my #396.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Ran, what's your read on Zen right now?

 

[ranmaru]

Null and not to be trusted as of now. (Due to him being wrong on Pawn and still expecting us to carry through with Orbo)

You?

 

[Xivii]

I know, but that's not my point. My point is that you were equally confident in both Orbo and pawn being scum. You were wrong about pawn, so why should we think you'll be right about Orbo?

Definitely more on Orbo than there was on Pawn. They are different players. Now I see that Pawn's scuminess was just newness. Orbo doesn't have that same excuse. How is Orbo's sudden placement of Ranmaru in his lynch pull not condemning to you.

 

[Xivii]

Null and not to be trusted as of now. (Due to him being wrong on Pawn and still expecting us to carry through with Orbo)

You?

You know it took 5 to lynch. You were on as well, meaning you were equally as wrong as I was as was everyone else who voted pawn. How should me being wrong make me any less legitimate than anyone else that was equally wrong. Especially since I'm the only one actually using evidence here.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Null and not to be trusted as of now. (Due to him being wrong on Pawn and still expecting us to carry through with Orbo)

You?

So you don't trust Zen because of him expecting us to carry through on Orbo? Is there anything else affecting your read?

(i'll tell you in a minute)

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Probably PR.

so you're sure he's town? PR tells are often mistaken for scumtells...

 

[ranmaru]

No. It's hard to read zen. The only think that is out of place is his 180 on me, I don't really know what his real intentions were for voting me and for changing. The only thing going for him play wise, is his case on Pawn+Orbo and I won't really go towards the direction of Orbo because already got one wrong, and I don't see Orbo Scum. He's just zoning in on one action, him having me in his lynch pool.

 

[Xivii]

Who do you think is scum then?

 

[Xivii]

so you're sure he's town? PR tells are often mistaken for scumtells...

Putting himself in a list and then saying there are 2 PRs among it is a pretty obvious crumb to me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I think it's a bad idea to mass claim when we haven't gotten scum yet




How has Kary been playing awful this game? What's your read on him?

He's coming off as confident in everything he does but it just makes him look arrogant and bigheaded. It's like he's trying to emulate a Swiss or Ryker style without actually being Ryker or Swiss. I know for certain that Kary is not this type of player and why he decided to play it this way is beyond me. Regardless, it's bogging the game down as it's just a huge ego in the way of actually getting things done. I don't know. What's your take on Kary?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

He just didn't read at all. It's not telling in either direction.

I guess. Why are you still certain it's Orbo? Any idea for a second?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

He's coming off as confident in everything he does but it just makes him look arrogant and bigheaded. It's like he's trying to emulate a Swiss or Ryker style without actually being Ryker or Swiss. I know for certain that Kary is not this type of player and why he decided to play it this way is beyond me. Regardless, it's bogging the game down as it's just a huge ego in the way of actually getting things done. I don't know. What's your take on Kary?

uh, couple questions.

#1 why did it take you an hour to come up with this answer? you were posting twice for every time I said 'you're scum' or whatever, then suddenly you disappear?

#2 why is your read on me 'i don't know, but he's being anti-town' when everyone else has me as town?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

No. It's hard to read zen. The only think that is out of place is his 180 on me, I don't really know what his real intentions were for voting me and for changing. The only thing going for him play wise, is his case on Pawn+Orbo and I won't really go towards the direction of Orbo because already got one wrong, and I don't see Orbo Scum. He's just zoning in on one action, him having me in his lynch pool.

I'm lean town on Zen. I think he would play more reactive as scum. He would not be like 'let's lynch X and Y go go go' as scum unless it was part of a larger scheme.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

uh, couple questions.

#1 why did it take you an hour to come up with this answer? you were posting twice for every time I said 'you're scum' or whatever, then suddenly you disappear?

#2 why is your read on me 'i don't know, but he's being anti-town' when everyone else has me as town?

Why are you implying that I sat here and took an hour just to respond to someone? I tabbed out because nothing was happening and I'm more or less waiting on other input.

Because I can't tell why you're playing the way you are. Your recent bravado and actions against me has got me rethinking.

 

[ranmaru]

He's coming off as confident in everything he does but it just makes him look arrogant and bigheaded. It's like he's trying to emulate a Swiss or Ryker style without actually being Ryker or Swiss. I know for certain that Kary is not this type of player and why he decided to play it this way is beyond me. Regardless, it's bogging the game down as it's just a huge ego in the way of actually getting things done. I don't know. What's your take on Kary?

But how is that 'bad play' per say? Can you quote what exactly you mean?

I have him as town.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

lmfao i think you're the one sweating i literally just pinned you to a tee and i knew you weren't confident please stop

Because I can't tell why you're playing the way you are. Your recent bravado and actions against me has got me rethinking.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I pinned that you weren't serious about your scum-read on me. Cut the ****.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

But how is that 'bad play' per say? Can you quote what exactly you mean?

I have him as town.

It's bad because it's a goddamn nuisance. Are you really telling me you're okay with how Kary is playing this?

 

[ranmaru]

Well I see Kary playing as Kary. I asked you for a quote to see what you mean, but I don't see it as him trying to have a bigger ego then he really does.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

cut the pressure on you?

naaah

 

[ranmaru]

I pinned that you weren't serious about your scum-read on me.

Why do you think he isn't serious about you?

 

[ranmaru]

Hey Paprika. Anything to say?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Well I see Kary playing as Kary. I asked you for a quote to see what you mean, but I don't see it as him trying to have a bigger ego then he really does.

Either I haven't been in any recent games with him or he's much more aggressive. It's really awful and I don't get why people think that being aggressive like this is somehow pro-town. It's just a huge head ache.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@RAN

it's good for clearing up my read on you. I might get back to you later... depends if I think you're scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

cut the pressure on you?

naaah

You call this pressure? You haven't ****ing done anything to incriminate me. The more you imply that I'm somehow sweating this the more I want to smack you across the head. This isn't about proving it, it's about making a sufficient argument instead of pretending that you've somehow backed me into a corner. The truth of the matter is that you look really stupid.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

You call this pressure? You haven't ****ing done anything to incriminate me. The more you imply that I'm somehow sweating this the more I want to smack you across the head. This isn't about proving it, it's about making a sufficient argument instead of pretending that you've somehow backed me into a corner. The truth of the matter is that you look really stupid.

I don't get it

 

[#HBC | Scary]

This is quite confusing. PR?

Also, I'm also skeptical with Zen since he was wrong on Pawn. Zen why should we go with the Orbo-scum case? Has it already been addressed?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

PR is short for power role; i.e. a non-vanilla townie, a townie with extra powers. in this game that means either the weak doc, or the tracker.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Who do you think is scum then?

Ranmaru I think this was for you to answer??

Putting himself in a list and then saying there are 2 PRs among it is a pretty obvious crumb to me.

why would you crumb in a game with an open setup?
anyways, I was trying to ask for your soup read aside from him being a PR?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Scary, talk to me about why you voted for pawn yesterDay. You seemed to jump on the bandwaggon rather late.

Ranmaru, same question

where is Orbo? The Paprika Guy?

Tell me why nobody should claim? You're a PR, aren't you?

no-one should claim yet. If you claim right at the start of the Day, you change how people will react when they come back to the thread. Give it 24 hours at least.

also, don't rolefish me, bro

 

[#HBC | Scary]

Everything Zen posted seemed clear-cut, so I went with it. Since it turned out that Pawn was town, I'm now skeptical of Zen, and questioning any reason to go after Orbo.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I don't get it

What is there not to get? I'm calling you out and you're acting confused about the whole situation? Please stop with the ego. I'm asking nicely.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Kary I don't want claims today because I miscounted. It's 7, not 6. Disregard my plan.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

What is there not to get? I'm calling you out and you're acting confused about the whole situation? Please stop with the ego. I'm asking nicely.

yeah i'm being confused about your whole ****ing post.

You call this pressure? You haven't ****ing done anything to incriminate me. The more you imply that I'm somehow sweating this the more I want to smack you across the head. This isn't about proving it, it's about making a sufficient argument instead of pretending that you've somehow backed me into a corner. The truth of the matter is that you look really stupid.

i don't even know what the point of it is. you're calling me out... for what? being dumb? well if you're doing that #1 you're wrong and #2 it looks like you're wasting your time. and i'm not trying to make a case against you, or incriminate you...

i'm just making you sweat because I can.

it's good for clearing up my read on you. I might get back to you later... depends if I think you're scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

If you're telling me that you're pressuring me just for the sake of pressuring me, you messed up a long time ago. Telling someone that you're pressuring them completely detracts from the point of pressure. I either hoped you had something worth reading or you were talking out of your ass. I then bluntly had you pinned and knew you were bull****ting, but just in case you weren't I gave you benefit to prove me wrong. You didn't do that. What do you want to me do? What are you looking for?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

soup I get the impression you have no idea how I play mafia, and I really don't feel like repeating myself over and over

if you want some kinda closure on this whole debacle, like a big argument as to why you're scum, then it sure as hell isn't gonna happen right now. i'm just gonna leave my vote on you and watch the Day continue.

you have any questions that go somewhere you let me know. you have any complaints about my play you can keep them for your scrapbook