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ToonLuigi

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Occasionally I will use metaknight. On these occasions, against heavy characters once I see them charging up for a KO move, I DownB behind them with the attack, and I think it avoids the attack. I'm just wondering:
1 - Who uses it?
2 - Is it risky?
3 - Should I continue to try it?
4 - (Sorry if it's been asked before) but are there invincibility frames while you're invisible?

Sorry if I sounded noobish.
 

Affinity

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1 - idkmybffjill?

2 - Yes, MK's Dimensional Cape attack is terribly slow. Your opponent can also punish you very easily if he predicts you.

3 - Up to you

4 - During the frames when you first become invisible and the frames before you re-appear, you can still be hit. In between those frames you are invincible (VERY short time, keep in mind).
 

K 2

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A quick question about the invinciblity frames...Why is IDC banned if you aren't completely invincible throughout the whole time? I played a friend who used that against me and I could easy tell where he was due to the zooming in and out of the camera. I'm fairly new to metaknight, so sorry if I sound stupid...
 

metaXzero

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A quick question about the invinciblity frames...Why is IDC banned if you aren't completely invincible throughout the whole time? I played a friend who used that against me and I could easy tell where he was due to the zooming in and out of the camera. I'm fairly new to metaknight, so sorry if I sound stupid...
IDC is banned due to risk of MKs just stalling out matches (NOT for being an overpowered AT that allows MK to truly **** matches as that was never proven).
 

_Phloat_

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A quick question about the invinciblity frames...Why is IDC banned if you aren't completely invincible throughout the whole time? I played a friend who used that against me and I could easy tell where he was due to the zooming in and out of the camera. I'm fairly new to metaknight, so sorry if I sound stupid...
Once the IDC has been innitiated, it cannot be stopped if the user uses it correctly. Knocking you away -> IDC has no counter if the user is perfect in his execution.

In other words, the vunerable frames are just at the beginning and the end, you could, theoretically, just sustain the middle part of it once you get ahead.
 

Disfunkshunal

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i do this too but i only do the do the attak sometimes. like affinity said its risky but it does have some knockback.
 

K 2

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Once the IDC has been innitiated, it cannot be stopped if the user uses it correctly. Knocking you away -> IDC has no counter if the user is perfect in his execution.

In other words, the vunerable frames are just at the beginning and the end, you could, theoretically, just sustain the middle part of it once you get ahead.
I've been able to hit my friend out of the IDC. Is it because he was executing it incorrectly, or what? If performed correctly, does it grant the user continuous invincibility frames?
 

Napilopez

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O Hai! I is lurking the metaknight boards and procrastinating studying.

I've never seen anyone be hit out of infinite dimensional cape. Or been hit of it. Maybe you have special skillz that let you travel to the dimension where Meta's cape is taking him? =P

No but seriously, perhaps you hit him right as he released the IDC or something like that.
 

K 2

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O Hai! I is lurking the metaknight boards and procrastinating studying.

I've never seen anyone be hit out of infinite dimensional cape. Or been hit of it. Maybe you have special skillz that let you travel to the dimension where Meta's cape is taking him? =P

No but seriously, perhaps you hit him right as he released the IDC or something like that.
Well, let me describe the setting. I play brawl everyday during lunch with my friends and we have 4 people free for alls. One of my friends was IDC ' ing around the stage. I was using marth and fsmashed one of the other players and MK popped out of his IDC with 12% or so. It seems likely he accidentally released the IDC at the exact moment I hit him.
 
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