Does the level 9 CPU adapt to situation in a match?

[cykofox]

I've been practicing on the cpu level 9 on training mode, and it seems to me that they adjust accordingly. Sometimes they get campy, like when they have high percentages and spam projectiles. Sometimes they stand there while im facing the other side and don't even go for the grab as anticipating some sort of attack from me. It seems wolf and snake are especially prone to this..

I really don't know...

 

[ReppinThat703]

ya I also think that they do but that's just my two cents

 

[GimmeAnFSharp]

No.

10chara

 

[ParanoidDrone]

They have their moments, but they're still utterly predictable. I've had some times where they appeared to be edgehogging, but that can easily be attributed to a conflict in their AI making them jump off to attack but at the same time get on the stage to be safe. Or something like that. (Yuna experienced this before iirc.)

 

[tEhrXXz0r]

lol I've experienced instances where the CPU started to crouch spam after I was messing around.

 

[Kalm]

For some reason fighting lvl 9 Wolf really feels like fighting a human.

It kind of weirds me out sometimes.

 

[PK Hexagon]

If you're asking whether or not lvl 9's understand when and when not to spam, then yes, it'd seem so.

They're still bad for practice.

 

[Fire!]

I don't know. I have see computers taunt me in other ways when I die.

Nair (Which is what I do)
Dedede's Crouch
I even recall a Dash Dance

Maybe its just me...

 

[One_With_Sumthing]

Yes, they do "adapt to situation" to some degree.
That's what they are programmed to do: If situation/condition X, then action X.

 

[Frate]

Yes. Playing Pokémon trainer LVL 9 is quite annoying if you don't play often with him since he changes style with each pokémon all the time.

 

[The Real Inferno]

I was playing in a match with three of them for the hell of it and when one killed me all three paused and taunted, the *******s.

 

[ixdnL]

LOL @inferno rage. hahahaha.

 

[Mangiks]

Infernorage: :DD, thats just epic.

 

[FzeroX]

They are actually AI to some extent. They will "watch" you and adapt to your play style. If you do something at a certain situation (ie. DeDeDe crouch as a taunt) they see that and will apply it.

Two situations to back this arguement are; when I play as fox I use the fair to help recover, the comps never did this, now they do it all the time. Also when I play pit I like to randomly loop arrows and wingdash, the comps "saw" this and started doing it, as a matter of fact I was spamming wingdashing on one side of the stage the comp was standing there then next thing I knew he was spamming wingdashing too.

 

[paul1290]

It seems that if they keep using a certain tactic and if you always counter it and punish them effectively they'll stop using it, so they do adapt to some degree. Still, they aren't exactly the best practice.


Obviously, a lot of techniques that work well against CPUs don't work against humans.

The opposite can also be true. A very good tactic that might serve you well in a tournament can sometimes be foiled by a CPU using cheap faster-than-human reflexes.


In any case, a CPU is still not a good substitute for playing against a human, but they're better than nothing.

 

[Saltix]

Finally a chance to bring this up. Call me crazy, but I think that the AI in this game updates everytime you go on wi-fi, and plays like different people.

I've been SH-Naired and RaR'd by Ike
Falco SHLasered me once
Marth even takes advantages of his IASA frames

>__> Creepy stuff

 

[Negi-Kun]

No. CPU Wolf + Green Greens = Failure.

 

[MidnightAsaph]

Yes. Someone said it somewhere on the thread. If something happens, they react accordingly. However, they can't think to a certain degree as humans do and truly strategize.

 

[Empy]

No they work with chances according to your position. If you're far away there is a higher chance they fire a blaster. That makes them look more campy. They sometimes do rare stuff just because it falls into place exactly right, not because they "planned" it. They react on your input so.

 

[Saltix]

No they work with chances according to your position. If you're far away there is a higher chance they fire a blaster. That makes them look more campy. They sometimes do rare stuff just because it falls into place exactly right, not because they "planned" it. They react on your input so.

I get what you're saying, but their reaction to my dash is a shorthopped nair?

Honestly it weirds me out, but I don't train on CPUs so it doesn't matter to me :]

 

[Azzizaz]

CPU Wolf lvl 9 spams SH Blaster like crazy. It's quite boring to fight to the point that it's annoying lol.

 

[nightSN]

@Azzizaz wtf my wolf lvl 9 doesnt spam sh blaster LOL

 

[gojira345]

Chew on this.

I main DK, and abuse SA frames in his punch against the overly aggressive comps.

Well the DK did it, but I thought nothing of it, until Kirby started doing it, when he never did before.

He used to just charge it up and randomly waste it, like I did when I first bought the game.

I actually have a replay where me and him EXCHANGE SA hits. Ever since then he has used my own SA against me.

I don't think it's human, I think the comp records and saves your button inputs, and saves the ones where you don't get hit or score a KO, or don't get KO'd yourself.

The comp crouch taunts me as well......

 

[gojira345]

I hate to bump this, but I notice the nonspike happy comps are copying my spike style, and missing with DK's fair, which I often do....

 

[Sosuke]

This whole thing about computers adjusting and the other stuff the above posts talk about kinda scare me.
I mean, I bet the CPU's Futile practices on could get top 10 in a tournaments.
>_>

 

[ShaolinAce]

You guys are scaring me. It's gonna be the matrix one of these days I swear.

 

[1337-Zero]

I agree with sasukebowser, this is the beginning of the robotic uprising.
Of course I'm safe 'cause this stuff never happens to me .

 

[Saltix]

Chew on this.

I main DK, and abuse SA frames in his punch against the overly aggressive comps.

Well the DK did it, but I thought nothing of it, until Kirby started doing it, when he never did before.

He used to just charge it up and randomly waste it, like I did when I first bought the game.

I actually have a replay where me and him EXCHANGE SA hits. Ever since then he has used my own SA against me.

I don't think it's human, I think the comp records and saves your button inputs, and saves the ones where you don't get hit or score a KO, or don't get KO'd yourself.

The comp crouch taunts me as well......

I knew I wasn't crazy! I used to do the typical ShNair->AAAcombo with Ike, sometimes followed with a RAR. The comp copies me :[

At least I'm not alone

 

[Inuashakent]

I say they can adapt to what you do, but they are pretty s**tty for training...

 

[Duckys]

I think they do adapt but some characters play different to others.

 

[ReppinThat703]

**** ****ing comps copying my ****

 

[NJzFinest]

In Smash64, if an item appeared, they would stop attacking you and go after it.

In Melee, if you shoot them with a lazor, they powershield.


Nuff said

 

[Gaussis]

I doubt that the CPUs will ever get the paths I follow with pkt. Even if I spam a couple, I've never seen a CPU ness do any of those things

 

[ddizzeldexley]

same here i main toon link and the comp. fight notihng like i do they just charge at me while there no tommorow.

 

[PieM4ster]

They do weird stuff sometimes, but they are still complete idiots.

My favorite thing to do on a computer with D3 is basically throw them off the cliff and time my fsmash and kill them. For me, it works 80% of the time. More proof that comps suck for training.

It does seem though that they dodge everything I would dodge, which they didn't do when i got the game.

 

[JackieRabbit5]

at least they don't just always do quick A attacks like in melee even when ur at like 150%

 

[Sosuke]

at least they don't just always do quick A attacks like in melee even when ur at like 150%

Oh yeah that was sooo annoying.
CPU 9 fox against a human Bowser, worst feeling ever.

 

[gojira345]

Any more crouch taunt copy stories?

I'll tell you what, I'll play Ganon ALOT and see if they ever copy my over b to the edge over and over technique.

Also, I think they just copy your successful button inputs. For example if you KO someone by grabbing with DK, cargo, jump, upthrow, then uair. expect to see it mimicked if you do it enough.

 

[LavisFiend]

No...

But they do hack the actual frickin' game.

That's what they did to me at least: Vidya proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s84hYcQqKGs

F*ckin Kirby... >=(

 

[Avsfreak18]

No...

But they do hack the actual frickin' game.

That's what they did to me at least: Vidya proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s84hYcQqKGs

F*ckin Kirby... >=(

thats pretty freaky man



but back to the topic
i think the CPU learns your strategy so that it becomes better suited against you

ive noticed that i will have to mix up my moves every once and a while so the CPU doesnt own me