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Do you want to be friends with benefits?

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MG9

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Friends with benefit is becoming more widely accepted in the twenty first century for our generation. It is being exhibited in popular recent movies such as, "No Strings Attached" and "Friends with Benefits." What are your thoughts on this concept? What are your opinions on this concept in multimedia, especially through the movies previously mentioned?
 

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Do you want to be friends with benfits?[/
Hells yeah I'll be your friend with benefits...

Papa be gettin' some sugar...

Waaassuuuuuuuupppp...

Seriously though, despite me displaying my amazing comic talents, I'm going to be the first person to actually make a productive post other than the OP- in other words think with my head and not with my very large sexual reproduction organ.

The media's endorsement of FWB falls under its endorsement of sexual liberation in general. Of course, there's alot of money to be made by liberating sexuality- think of porn, adult stores, erotic literature, strip club etc.

I have multiple reasons to be against FWB, but even if I didn't have the genius intellect that was bestowed upon me (joooooookes)I would be against it simply for the principle of not buying into what the media is selling.
 

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Dre., You don't have to fight the media all the time, you can pretend it doesn't exist and act according to what you truly want to do.

Also, why are you so chill as of late? Not saying it's a bad thing, it's just...weird to see this side of you lol.

Someone's jacking my provocative-title steeze.
T_T
 

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Just to clarify, there are things which the media/modernity in general do endorse that I also endorse. I don't rebel against society, that's the sane fallacy as conforming to it, I'm indifferent to it (or at least try to be).

If I agree with society on something, I make sure it's not because society is telling me to, which is why I have other reasons to be against FWB other than the media endorsing it.

And I've always been a pretty light-hearted person, it's just nowadays I don't have eight people at a time all up in ma grillz attacking my views in a single thread, and I'm regular and known enough here for my quirky behaviour not to come across as disrespectful.

:phone:
 

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Fair enough, I clearly haven't lurked around as long as I thought I have.

I'd like to use the rest of this post to stay on topic, but really I don't think I can think of a sound argument as to why FWB is bad. Assuming religion isn't a factor, at least. I wish I had at least seen the movies lol.
 
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Do you want to be friends with benfits?
Hells yeah I'll be your friend with benefits...

Papa be gettin' some sugar...

Waaassuuuuuuuupppp...

Seriously though, despite me displaying my amazing comic talents, I'm going to be the first person to actually make a productive post other than the OP- in other words think with my head and not with my very large sexual reproduction organ.
ahaha
ahahah

hhaha

"very large"

hahahahaha


The media's endorsement of FWB falls under its endorsement of sexual liberation in general. Of course, there's alot of money to be made by liberating sexuality- think of porn, adult stores, erotic literature, strip club etc.
...Plus, it seems to be the sensible thing to do when you consider the pros and cons. Pros: more sex. Cons: more responsibility. Win-win in my book.

I have multiple reasons to be against FWB, but even if I didn't have the genius intellect that was bestowed upon me (joooooookes)I would be against it simply for the principle of not buying into what the media is selling.
...Wut
 

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I don't see any downsides other than probable awkwardness.

"If I agree with society on something, I make sure it's not because society is telling me to, which is why I have other reasons to be against FWB other than the media endorsing it." - Dre.

Can you...ummm, give us some reasons? I think this thread is a mighty fine place to do that. While I may not see any downsides, I can definitely see the potential for some.
 

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Well my reasons for it are the same as my reasons for believing any sex outside of the natural purpose for it are wrong. If I go into that, it will completely derial the thread, which it has done in the past, and I don't think MG9 was looking for a technical debate of moral philosophies, but rather just the social consequences of being FWB. I think her intention was to assume sex outside of marriage was morally permissable, and religion wasn't a factor.
 
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Well my reasons for it are the same as my reasons for believing any sex outside of the natural purpose for it are wrong. If I go into that, it will completely derial the thread, which it has done in the past, and I don't think MG9 was looking for a technical debate of moral philosophies, but rather just the social consequences of being FWB. I think her intention was to assume sex outside of marriage was morally permissable, and religion wasn't a factor.
You need to make another thread about this so I can take your *** to the cleaner's again. That's always a boatload of fun. ^_^
 

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Do you want to be friends with benfits?[/
Hells yeah I'll be your friend with benefits...

Papa be gettin' some sugar...

Waaassuuuuuuuupppp...

Seriously though, despite me displaying my amazing comic talents, I'm going to be the first person to actually make a productive post other than the OP- in other words think with my head and not with my very large sexual reproduction organ.

The media's endorsement of FWB falls under its endorsement of sexual liberation in general. Of course, there's alot of money to be made by liberating sexuality- think of porn, adult stores, erotic literature, strip club etc.

I have multiple reasons to be against FWB, but even if I didn't have the genius intellect that was bestowed upon me (joooooookes)I would be against it simply for the principle of not buying into what the media is selling.
LMAO! :)

"Very large sexual reproduction organ" Ahahaha True dat, I shall testify.

Good point, I agree with you. Liberation of sex is a money maker but that's not all it is. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand you view the liberation negatively. There are positives to the liberation of sex like catering to variety of desires, reducing the taboo factor and increasing comfort level.

ahaha
ahahah

hhaha

"very large"

hahahahaha


...Plus, it seems to be the sensible thing to do when you consider the pros and cons. Pros: more sex. Cons: more responsibility. Win-win in my book.

...Wut
Hmmm...I think you are looking at it too simply, there are far more. On one hand, one is not restricted to sexual relations with only one person and one doesn't have to put up with nagging, obligations, commitment, etc that are associated with relationships. On the other hand one risks getting STIs by being open to their FWB having sexual relations with which ever and however many other partner. Although the popular belief is that one will avoid attachment by placing rules and boundaries, they will be able to achieve that, but in reality, it is highly unlikely. Especially since studies demonstrate that women release a hormone during sex that is called Oxytocin that makes them grow emotionally attached to their partner. And of course, males can also become attached. Although people try to run away from the difficulties of relationships and keep things simple, things tend to end messy and feelings get hurt because one of the two usually wants to be more that FWB. Bottom line is that, FWB are running away from the difficulties of relationships. Yes, compromise, communication, understanding, patience, etc are hard to put to practice for some and no one of us are perfect at all that is needed to make a relationship work, but these are important to develop. After all, FWB most likely not see themselves staying FWB with different people to their old age, and if they don't attempt to practice these important factors in making a relationship work, they will have much harder time in making marriage work.

Well my reasons for it are the same as my reasons for believing any sex outside of the natural purpose for it are wrong. If I go into that, it will completely derial the thread, which it has done in the past, and I don't think MG9 was looking for a technical debate of moral philosophies, but rather just the social consequences of being FWB. I think her intention was to assume sex outside of marriage was morally permissable, and religion wasn't a factor.
I wasn't looking for anything specific actually, I kept the questions open so people that post can take the thread multiple direction and view FWB through different lenses.
 

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Woman you didn't quote correctly.

People won't be able to tell where their text ends and your text starts.

What you're supposed to do is quote them, then write your response outside the quote box. You wrote some of yours in their quote box. Not only is it confusing, but it looks like the other person is saying what you in fact are saying.

For example, it looks like I'm saying LMAO with a smiley face, and I'd never do that. I'm the iceman, I have complete control over my emotions....

But good try anyway. Also, sh**loads of respect to you for coming back and posting again. Respect....I know I already said that but whatevs, I live by my own rules....


BPC- I only do moral philosophy debates with people who have thourough normative ethical frameworks (in other words, people who have a thought-ought moral philosophy, not just people who assume utilitarian ethics and social contract theory because it's what the media is pushing in the contemporary world, or people who just think with their baby-makers).

If you can prove to me that you do have a sophisticated moral philosophy then yeah I'll debate you. I don't mean to sound arrogant, it's just that I've spent a lot of time debating uneducated people who just regurgitate the media's commodity and have no backing behind their more fundamental assumptions. There's nothing to learn from those people except how to not let ignorance get to you.

Battlecow- The joke was semi-funny. The "sin" part would have been a nice touch if I was actually religious. Nice ad hominem there....
 

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Also, incase you didn't see it, MG9 said I had a massive ****. Just throwing it out there....not literally, I mean't.....metaphorically?...whatevs the point is I have an anaconda in ma pantz.....

Waassuuuuuppp.....
 

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Battlecow- The joke was semi-funny.
Pretty much the deciding factor of my argument that he should be in the DH right there. Even if he thinks my arguments are too poor to reply to. What a jerkface.

@Dre.'s GF - Dre. not satisfying you ey? Yeah alright I'll be your friend with benefits. Sydney is only like a 3 hour drive anyways. :3
 

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WOE, clearly yo oxytocin be rising, wanting to know about my personal life and all.

But nar I'm in the best city in all of Australia - Canberra. It's pretty much the objective better of Sydney in every conceivable way. And I'm pretty sure Dre. said he lives in Sydney. If he doesn't my bad.
 

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WOE, clearly yo oxytocin be rising, wanting to know about my personal life and all.

But nar I'm in the best city in all of Australia - Canberra. It's pretty much the objective better of Sydney in every conceivable way. And I'm pretty sure Dre. said he lives in Sydney. If he doesn't my bad.
Haha it's a hormone that get's released, not like blood pressure that rises, but sorry to break your heart , it's neither. lol

I was in Australia for 5 months, doing study abroad in Sydney, so that's why I'm curious. But ya you're right, Canberra most definitely is known for being the best city in Australia! Haha jk, more like the opposite, I'm sure you haven't heard that one before. lol :)
 

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Well my reasons for it are the same as my reasons for believing any sex outside of the natural purpose for it are wrong. If I go into that, it will completely derial the thread, which it has done in the past, and I don't think MG9 was looking for a technical debate of moral philosophies, but rather just the social consequences of being FWB. I think her intention was to assume sex outside of marriage was morally permissable, and religion wasn't a factor.
I know that you don't want to go into it... I just want to point out that you have never and will never define "natural". I mean, for example, if I bring up that monogamy is rather rare in nature ... This will have no affect on your point of view.

-blazed
 
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BPC- I only do moral philosophy debates with people who have thourough normative ethical frameworks (in other words, people who have a thought-ought moral philosophy, not just people who assume utilitarian ethics and social contract theory because it's what the media is pushing in the contemporary world, or people who just think with their baby-makers).

If you can prove to me that you do have a sophisticated moral philosophy then yeah I'll debate you. I don't mean to sound arrogant, it's just that I've spent a lot of time debating uneducated people who just regurgitate the media's commodity and have no backing behind their more fundamental assumptions. There's nothing to learn from those people except how to not let ignorance get to you.
K, now please tell me why I need one to criticize yours. I don't need a religion to poke others full of holes. I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only one here who's criticized that moral framework of yours as vague, poorly-defined, logically contradictory, based on the naturalistic fallacy, etc... Why should it matter if I have my own sophisticated moral philosophy? I don't have to, I can **** on yours without it.
 

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Yo Dre- Penis size MM. No joke, I will bet you $3,000 that mine is bigger.
Yeah sure, and maybe after that we can see who can leave their scent mark higher up the tree to decide who gets mating rights with the females....

BPC- In other words you don't have one.

Also, judging by your tone and purported desire to destroy my arguments,you seem to misunderstand the point of the DH. For you, it's about bashing that which you don't like, and trying to prove you're right at any cost. You don't come here to learn, you come here to insult and to preach. So on second thought, I wouldn't give you the time of day for a debate, because the only thing productive that comes from debating people like you is conditioning yourself to handle perceived ignorance. I've already learned that, you clearly haven't since you are aggressive towards everyone you perceive as ignorant.

So in other words, I have nothing to gain from debating you, and you have nothing to gain from it either, perhaps except for the unhealthy gratification of perceiving to destroy someone's arguments. I don't bother with people who are still fixates on that desire.
:phone:
 

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Dre., what exactly IS the problem of having sex other than under the covers in missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation?
And please don't tell me it'll derail the thread, I don't think it can get any worse than what you and Battlecow are spawning.
 

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Dre., what exactly IS the problem of having sex other than under the covers in missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation?
And please don't tell me it'll derail the thread, I don't think it can get any worse than what you and Battlecow are spawning.
It's alot of work to present the argument properly, then even more work to deal with 8 people at once criticising it. Seeing as I've done it here before, it just isn't worth it.

These things never stay civil either. Some people still have difficulty with the fact that people have a different opinion on something they feel strongly about, so they become aggressive in their posts, and become more concerned with changing the other person's mind rather than the art of debating.

:phone:
 

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actually, Dre. I will permit you to present your argument to Dourin, with the intended effect of Dourin arguing against it (unless he ends up agreeing, which is possible). I will monitor this thread closely so as to ensure that the ensuing debate remains civil, and between you two.

(that means the rest of you hush or be infracted :p)
 
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