orintemple
Smash Lord
Oh, I have been lying to myself this whole time, and to you all.
I do think something is cheap.
Mechandise at the dollar store is cheap.
I do think something is cheap.
Mechandise at the dollar store is cheap.
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Do you think anything is "cheap?"
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Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
jalued
Smash Lord
metaknights tornado?
ThreeX
Smash Lord
brawl is broken.
on a plus note, melee's good. :]
discuss
on a plus note, melee's good. :]
discuss
SirroMinus1
SiNiStEr MiNiStEr
no i just fought a meta-knight the other day and i thought it was more fun than annoying. i play marth all the time so i dont see him as cheap n e more. i only got a problem with sheik f tilts 
Kratos_Aurion
Smash Apprentice
Chain grabbing is cheap. Anything that is unbreakable is cheap. (Not counting Final Smashes) That's just my opinion.
PitMasta
Smash Journeyman
nothing is cheap in the world of smash bros! =)
You wouldn't count counterpicking your character as breaking the chain grab? Opponnent picks D3, you pick Fox, Olimar, Pikachu, ZSS, etc. Bam, chain grab broken.
Spartan1841
Smash Journeyman
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2007
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Nothing is cheap. To win you should try anything you want.
When someone says that "insertmovehere" is cheap its usually because they got owned with it lol
When someone says that "insertmovehere" is cheap its usually because they got owned with it lol
Nibbity
Smash Journeyman
yo, I think certain chain grabs can be very cheap at low percentages, I recall shiek's chain grab in melee was brutal, 0 to 70% without any ability to move...ouch. Edgehogging is kinda bad for me too, but im guilty of doing it. You have to play cheap to edgehog someone with like 20% without a fight though.
Tristan Fattest of All Kids
Smash Journeyman
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im a noob
dj_pwn1423
Smash Journeyman
^^this
people who have to make excuses to protect their self confidence should be driven to the street and shot...
lol @ the people who think chain grabbing should be banned. Alot of them are probably for smash balls in tournaments =/. That or they haven't been here for long >_>
PitMasta
Smash Journeyman
thanks for letting us know...
Niko_K
Smash Master
The only thing that I truly find "cheap' would be the new IC infinite's in brawl. The game has only been out for a couple months and people can already consistently pull of 0-100+ grab combos that are inescapable. We have no known way for grab breaking so there really is no way to counter it except mashing buttons hoping you'll break free.
The amount of grab combo's the IC's have is just overwhelming, one grab against a good IC players leads to your death.
Also even if you get grabbed at higher percentages, they can charge a smash while having you grabbed.
Ludacris!
In all honesty though it won't be banned so we're going to have to learn to deal with techniques like this, and as most IC mains say "Don't get grabbed" it really is the only option at the moment.
So in response to what CanadianPimp said, these techniques actually force the opponent to INCREASE their usage of strategy and "mindgames" to avoid being grabbed yet still being able to rack up the damage. You can start to read when the opposition is attempting a grab and punish them for it. Nothing is cheap if it is avoidable. You can avoid being grabbed so that's what you have to do to avoid getting CG'd.
-Niko
The amount of grab combo's the IC's have is just overwhelming, one grab against a good IC players leads to your death.
Also even if you get grabbed at higher percentages, they can charge a smash while having you grabbed.
Ludacris!
In all honesty though it won't be banned so we're going to have to learn to deal with techniques like this, and as most IC mains say "Don't get grabbed" it really is the only option at the moment.
So in response to what CanadianPimp said, these techniques actually force the opponent to INCREASE their usage of strategy and "mindgames" to avoid being grabbed yet still being able to rack up the damage. You can start to read when the opposition is attempting a grab and punish them for it. Nothing is cheap if it is avoidable. You can avoid being grabbed so that's what you have to do to avoid getting CG'd.
-Niko
TiersAreReal
Smash Apprentice
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^ This. This philosophy is even present in Dragon Ball Z. Vegeta tells Goku on Namek to not show any mercy, and to play to win against Frieza. Smash is basically the only fighting game where "cheapness" is given so much consideration. People need to suck it up and work around it. People so worried about cheap moves would be obliterated in a heartbeat in MvC2. As the level of your opposition increases, so does your own skill level in order to win.