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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Gengar84

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So what’s a game that you feel has no chance of getting a playable character but you’d like to see miscellaneous content of, like music or spirits?

mine are Darkest Dungeon, Lobotomy Corporation and Trauma Center

inb4 someone posts that one Trauma Center song you know the one

also uhhhh I have a TC Content Support thread, check the directory
There are a ton of obscure games I love that will probably never get a character. My favorite video game character of all time is Zegram Ghart from Rogue Galaxy. Needless to say, that game is extremely unlikely to ever get a character since it was a relatively niche JRPG exclusive to the PS2. Ideally, I’d love Zegram to make it in as a playable character but it would honestly be a miracle if it ever got any content at all. I’d still be hyped for a Zegram assist trophy since he would at least have a modern 3D model I could port to someone as a mod.
 
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I mentioned awhile back that I was looking into making PMEX character demonstration videos. I decided to go ahead with it, and did three. If anyone can guess what three characters I did, you get a warm feeling inside. Here's the roster.

now, time to go to bed.
That would be great tbh
Do check out CaliburTek and ALM's channel for other stuff you probably want to note in those demo videos.
 

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Last night I had a dream that there was a Smash Bros and TF2 cross-over that wasn't even Smash Bros, it was both IPs fighting against a galactic threat in like an Action RPG. I distinctly remember Engineer being friends with Marth and saying "if you don't respect Marth, you don't respect me".

TF2 last FP2 character confirmed
 
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I'm 99 % chill. because I personally decided to not invest so much into who is more likely to get shown off (lets be real, the definition of "Big 3 E3 character" is so broad it could be practically anyone notable). Only a bit nervous since I've invested a bit emotionally ("What if a character I really like gets in"?), but not that much.



I'm of two minds when it comes to that. On one hand, I'm honestly fine with how Chrom is currently because he plays differently from Roy. Not just because of lack of sweet / sourspot, but also since the two approach situations differently. Roy wants to bearhug his opponent and consistently pressure: a Roy that gets going can feel like a ****ing unstoppable pain train. Chrom aims to strike a balance between aggression and patience - the character prefers this not only because he lacks the sourspot, but also since he does not want to be off stage. At all. Chrom has more flexibility on stage, but Roy can usually survive a bit longer since his Up B has a little horizontal movement.

On the other hand, Luna would've made for a more interesting kit, and given that 3 characters are derived from Marth moving them away from Marth would've been much more engaging to experiment with. Any such changes would be precarious becauce of what I said above - Roy / Chrom is already an interesting contrast. It's certainly possible, but would need finetuning.

Then again, I'm not in favor of Chrom being an Ike echo because Ike's moveset doesn't fully evoke that balance between aggression and patience. Ike wants to wall people out and get the room for follow ups / additional hard hitting attacks - which would be more difficult base to build Chrom from. Of course, my PoV is influenced by the fact that I'm content with Chrom being a Roy echo, but still,

Also, in "IP ressurection projects no one expected":

UNCHARTED WATERS???
that was my **** during my middle school days along with Sid Meier's Pirates!

also probably one of Koei's greatest IPs too
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
 
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zumaddy

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
I was campaigning hard for Ghirahim back in the Smash 4 days, then IIRC one day the Sakurai image/message of the day appears on Miiverse and showed him as an Assist Trophy :')
 

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I was campaigning hard for Ghirahim back in the Smash 4 days, then IIRC one day the Sakurai image/message of the day appears on Miiverse and showed him as an Assist Trophy :')
I meant for Ultimate, but yeah that’s valid
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
Thankfully most of my most wanted characters are so unlikely that nobody would even bother deconfirming them. 😎
 

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I meant for Ultimate, but yeah that’s valid
Oops my bad! Probably Monster Hunter then, but considering we still got music and Rathalos i don't feel we were hard done by or anything.

Keep your chin up for Elma, she might not be in Ultimate but it seems Monolith has started to embrace the Shulk/Elma/Rex & the Aegis trio, I can see her getting in the future.
 

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Oops my bad! Probably Monster Hunter then, but considering we still got music and Rathalos i don't feel we were hard done by or anything.

Keep your chin up for Elma, she might not be in Ultimate but it seems Monolith has started to embrace the Shulk/Elma/Rex & the Aegis trio, I can see her getting in the future.
And Neku? If I can’t get Fiora I at least want my Son(tm) to make it some day too
 

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So what’s a game that you feel has no chance of getting a playable character but you’d like to see miscellaneous content of, like music or spirits?

mine are Darkest Dungeon, Lobotomy Corporation and Trauma Center

inb4 someone posts that one Trauma Center song you know the one

also uhhhh I have a TC Content Support thread, check the directory
I'd say Okami. Some music or spirits from the series would be great.

I really hope the Knight gets a Mii costume, with Enter Hallownest or Hornet as a music track. That, or a Hollow Knight spirit event when Silksong comes out.
These are really good choices but I'd personally rather have a City of Tears remix. I love that track and I think it has potential for a cool remix.

 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
I don't remember being upset about any deconfirmations, though reminiscing on Krystal's spot on Brawl's roster being scrapped does make me a bit sad.

Though I later learned that you were asking about Ultimate. I don't remember getting mad at any deconfirmations, though if Steve had joined the roster before Banjo did, then I would have been quite mad due to thinking he deconfirmed Banjo; I'm just glad they revealed Banjo first.

Edit: I am a little disappointed that Heihachi got deconfirmed again, since I think he'd be a neat little addition to Smash as a fighter, especially since he would have been Namco's second rep (which they really should get in Ultimate).
 
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I don't remember being upset about any deconfirmations, though reminiscing on Krystal's spot on Brawl's roster being scrapped does make me a bit sad.

Though I later learned that you were asking about Ultimate. I don't remember getting mad at any deconfirmations, though if Steve had joined the roster before Banjo did, then I would have been quite mad due to thinking he deconfirmed Banjo; I'm just glad they revealed Banjo first.

Edit: I am a little disappointed that Heihachi got deconfirmed again, since I think he'd be a neat little addition to Smash as a fighter, especially since he would have been Namco's second rep (which they really should get in Ultimate).
I do hope Namco gets another rep. They deserve one, they’ve been WORKING ON THE GAME for crying out loud

but maybe they think it’ll be too prideful to include another of their characters idk
 

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I do hope Namco gets another rep. They deserve one, they’ve been WORKING ON THE GAME for crying out loud

but maybe they think it’ll be too prideful to include another of their characters idk
Yeah, and they're still the only third party company to not have an additional newcomer in Ultimate. Literally every third party, even Microsoft (who is new to the Smash series), has had at least one newcomer in Ultimate. Some have even gotten two.
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
I'd say Geno, but it's hard to be too mad about that considering who it is that we got instead. Sephiroth is awesome, so I can look at it as a fair trade.
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
While its easy for me to go with a stock answer of Geno, I think I'll actually go with a dark horse choice and say Bomberman was a bit more of a disappointment given his games' legacy and that a bomb oriented moveset would be so novel for Smash.
 

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While its easy for me to go with a stock answer of Geno, I think I'll actually go with a dark horse choice and say Bomberman was a bit more of a disappointment given his games' legacy and that a bomb oriented moveset would be so novel for Smash.
Technically, Solid Snake filled that role already.
 

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While its easy for me to go with a stock answer of Geno, I think I'll actually go with a dark horse choice and say Bomberman was a bit more of a disappointment given his games' legacy and that a bomb oriented moveset would be so novel for Smash.
Agree 100% Bomberman.

I always wanted Simon more than Bomberman, but seeing that scene followed by "Yep, it's him" was a bitter pill to swallow and probably the first, and only, time I've ever "Ah hell"'d verbally in regards to speculation.
 

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Basically every sonic character for me. It went something like:
Knuckles: (Vine boom effect)
Shadow: (Vine boom effect x2)
Tails: (Vine boom effect x3)
Knuckles again: (Vine boom effect x4)
 
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Saw this, and wanna know if it has been discussed on here yet:


How likely is the VA's testimony to be a Smash confirmation?
 

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Saw this, and wanna know if it has been discussed on here yet:


How likely is the VA's testimony to be a Smash confirmation?
It's interesting for sure, but I feel like full on character voice acting would've happened a while ago.
 

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I feel bad for the fans of whoever is the last fighter, because unless they're a huge crowd pleaser, they're going to be blamed for "my fave not getting in"
I'd argue even a crowd pleaser will get quite the amount of ****. Considering said character will be the last one, plus the fact of Ultimate being the "definitive" Smash game in terms of roster, a lot of people will be triggered because their most wanted didn't make it into such a special game. A feeling I can understand to an extent, who wouldn't like to see their most wanteds in the biggest Smash game in terms of roster? Maybe this will be the last chance to see X character vs the likes of Snake, Cloud, Mega Man or Steve, to name a few.
But still, I think people takes Smash more seriously than they should.

It's not exclusive to Smash, it also happens with other fighting games, but I've never seen as much saltiness in other communities, to be honest. At the same time the community is also capable of good things, but when it comes to character announcements, dude, it's basically a war lol
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
Either Geno or Travis.

I'd say an Undertale rep as well if not for a few reasons: 1. I'd actually greatly prefer Frisk or Papyrus over Sans, 2. I feel like Sans being a Mii costume doesn't necessarily deconfirm an Undertale rep for FP2, 3. the Sans costume was so unexpected, cool, and hilarious that I couldn't actually describe myself as "upset" over it even if I assumed it to deconfirm any Undertale fighters going forward.
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
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The one deconfirmation I actually cared about.
 

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Plot twist well get Jena Anderson as our first villain before the hero as well as first girl villain... right?

oh who am I kidding 😭
Jena Anderson is I unironically one of my most wanted characters so I’d be hyped for her. Akira Howard would be great too and the Legion gimmick could be a lot of fun if it could work but I personally like Jena even more.
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?

I’d say Fiora. Voted for her on the ballot. Got Chrom’d literally day one, so I went for my backup, Elma... but now it looks like she won’t make it either! 🙃

don’t mind me I’m just in my Deconfirmation Depression again...they’ll both get their chance another day...

hell, maybe Neku will get his chance another day too... I also voted for him 😭
Skull Kid


We came so far, only to be unceremoniously put on the website.
 

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Plot twist well get Jena Anderson as our first villain before the hero as well as first girl villain... right?

oh who am I kidding 😭
Me explaining how we will get an Astral Chain sequel revealed at E3 and how it will feature a revived Jena as the main character and how this will let her join Smash as the promo pick of this pass and how I'm most definitely not still in denial
 

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**** it

We should have a Jena Anderson support thread

who will do the honors??
 

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That reminds me which female villains would you like to see, in Ultimate or the next game?:

for me:

Jena Anderson obviously
T-elos (KOS-MOS has to come first obviously)
Dr. Coyle (definitely not in this game but the next)
Medusa
 

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**** it

We should have a Jena Anderson support thread

who will do the honors??
I’ll do it eventually but if anyone else wants to first, feel free. My support threads almost never get any replies anyways. I must be cursed. 😱

Either that or nobody else wants the same characters as me but that can’t be it can it? 🤔
 

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Which deconfirmation left you the most upset?
Travis. I was so convinced that this was the right time for him, and I’m still kind of salty about it because I still believe he would have been a perfect addition for FP2. NMH deserves the boost and Travis would be such an amazing presence on the roster. Hopefully NMH3 does well and we can talk about him next time.

I’ll echo Skull Kid too, but not on a personal level and more of an empathetic level since I’m not really a Zelda guy (but I think he’d be sweet). I thought he had a really good shot of being on the roster, especially when the Moon AT was revealed without him around, only for him to unceremoniously be dropped on the website and end up being exactly the same lame AT he was before. Should have just had him summoning the Moon.
 
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I’ll do it eventually but if anyone else wants to first, feel free. My support threads almost never get any replies anyways. I must be cursed. 😱

Either that or nobody else wants the same characters as me but that can’t be it can it? 🤔
The only thread I’ve started that has some activity is the Lobotomy Corporation thread. I actually inherited the Elma thread from someone else so it’s not mine per se

cries in T-elos
 
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