Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Lionfranky]

Maybe

For us Westerners, it's Goku

But for Japan, it's Demon Slayer

While Demon Slayer broke box office there, it's still One Piece that holds crown. It's cultural phenomenon there with tons of places with actual statues of One Piece characters.

 

[Shroob]

While Demon Slayer broke box office there, it's still One Piece that holds crown. It's cultural phenomenon there with tons of places with actual statues of One Piece characters.

I meant in regards to Smash requests.

Sorta like how the west wants Goku, Japan's parallel is DemonMcSlayerDudebro.

 

[YoshiandToad]

Tanjiro?

Guess Japan really do want an anime swordsman.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Why need an anime character on a video only crossover when they can make their own crossover game with just anime character since the medium is big enough to contain the same amount of character like Smash? Oh wait.. we already have one, and it sucks.

 

[Mamboo07]

Why need an anime character on a video only crossover when they can make their own crossover game with just anime character since the medium is big enough to contain the same amount of character like Smash? Oh wait.. we already have one, and it sucks.

Jump Force?

 

[Commander_Alph]

Jump Force?

Yeah, the bad one, except for Dengeki Bunko.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Jump Force?

Yeah, the bad one, except for Dengeki Bunko.

 

[Lionfranky]

I meant in regards to Smash requests.

Sorta like how the west wants Goku, Japan's parallel is DemonMcSlayerDudebro.

Japanese also request Goku iirc. Still, it's just one Youtube video. Not representative of whole Japan, so it's not a good measure.

 

[Diddy Kong]

So lets say they decided to include 4 more fighters as bonuses, who would you include? It must be from existing universes with already playable characters and it can’t be from any DLC mii costumes or spirit events. It can be base game spirits or assist trophy upgrades.

Here is mine:
1) Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong)
2) Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
3) Sceptile (Pokemon)
4) Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

Dixie Kong
Impa
Bandana Dee
???

 

[Lamperouge]

Smash questions that will never be answered:


Who REALLY was Jane? Did the team assume that Kasumi was a Female Joker before getting more news about R?

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I've already mentioned this a few times before but supposedly a data mine for Royal indicated that Kasumi used Joker's dagger and gun at some point in development, although the only source that I've seen mention that little tidbit is her character wiki, so...maaaaybe? lol

 

[Speed Weed]

Why need an anime character on a video only crossover when they can make their own crossover game with just anime character since the medium is big enough to contain the same amount of character like Smash? Oh wait.. we already have one, and it sucks.

have you heard of the chad game Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS it's like Jump Force but good

 

[Deleted member]

Why need an anime character on a video only crossover when they can make their own crossover game with just anime character since the medium is big enough to contain the same amount of character like Smash? Oh wait.. we already have one, and it sucks.

I'll never understand why they went and made all the characters have this very realistic shading

instead of cel shading to keep the artstyles intact. As they are they look like reject Sims

 

[Commander_Alph]

have you heard of the chad game Jump Ultimate Stars for the DS it's like Jump Force but good

Yes I have but I like J Star too.. in terms of character not gameplay because I have plenty connection with the character from that game rather than Jump Ultimate Star (with the exception of the Big 4 and JoJo)

 

[Deleted member]

Yes I have but I like J Star too.. in terms of character not gameplay because I have plenty connection with the character from that game rather than Jump Ultimate Star (with the exception of the Big 4 and JoJo)

I'm really only interested in the One Piece characters personally. I watch a decent amount of Shonen, but my tastes oft lead me to media outside what those games cover. Especially card game anime.

 

[Commander_Alph]

I'll never understand why they went and made all the characters have this very realistic shading
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instead of cel shading to keep the artstyles intact. As they are they look like reject Sims

Yup, they definitely trying too hard to blend in with other Photorealistic game at that time which honestly is pretty wasted as the model barely even has an expression and some character like Izuku Midoriya and even Goku is pretty disturbing and ugly in that artstyle with their big eyes. On the other hand, J Star perfectly blend every artstyle together into one and still keep the manga theme.

I'm really only interested in the One Piece characters personally. I watch a decent amount of Shonen, but my tastes oft lead me to media outside what those games cover. Especially card game anime.

Well for me character like Koro-Sensei (Assassination Classroom), Chitoge (Nisekoi), Allen Walker (D. Gray Man), Medaka (Medaka Box) and Sket Dance got me interested in the game as I have watched their show, I still have a vague memory of Saint Seiya since that and Rurouni Kenshin and Captain Tsubasa (which only appear in the DS game) is my father's favorite anime.

 

[Brother AJ]

So lets say they decided to include 4 more fighters as bonuses, who would you include? It must be from existing universes with already playable characters and it can’t be from any DLC mii costumes or spirit events. It can be base game spirits or assist trophy upgrades.

Here is mine:
1) Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong)
2) Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
3) Sceptile (Pokemon)
4) Chun-Li (Street Fighter)

1) Assuming it's not cheating I would add a canonical OoT Ganondorf. If I can't do that then I'd upgrade Pig Ganon to a playable character. If that's not possible then I'd go with Twilight Princess Ganondorf with a sword moveset and Dead Man's Volley.

2) Dixie Kong

3) Tails

4) If I can double dip in existing franchises I would put Eggman in next. If not, let's put Bandana Waddle Dee in there.

Honestly it's a tough decision whether to put in Tails or Eggman first, but I feel like we've GOT to have Sonic's P2.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'll never understand why they went and made all the characters have this very realistic shading
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instead of cel shading to keep the artstyles intact. As they are they look like reject Sims

It was to appeal to the west as we typically enjoy more realistic looking games. Hell, there's some old Mega Man reviews from gaming magazines flying around twitter about how the games are absolutely disgusting kiddy bull**** and that the Japanese are stuck in the past so it's not exactly a recent trend.

 

[SpecterFlower]

While Demon Slayer broke box office there, it's still One Piece that holds crown. It's cultural phenomenon there with tons of places with actual statues of One Piece characters.

one piece peak year was 30mil sales in japan, demon slayer sold 80mil last year.

Demon Slayer is the cultural phenomenon, we just haven't seen the effect's of it yet.

 

[Lionfranky]

one piece peak year was 30mil sales in japan, demon slayer sold 80mil last year.

Demon Slayer is the cultural phenomenon, we just haven't seen the effect's of it yet.

It was combination of ending of Demon Slayer and anime. It's also accounting people buying whole volumes, not just newest volumes. I know it's still impressive, but context does matter. It's not like Demon Slayer kept that sales number. I didn't mean that Demon Slayer is not cultural phenomenon. I guess my wording was kinda misleading.

 

[JOJONumber691]

one piece peak year was 30mil sales in japan, demon slayer sold 80mil last year.

Demon Slayer is the cultural phenomenon, we just haven't seen the effect's of it yet.

Demon Slayer, Dragon Ball, and One Piece are all cultural phenomenons in Japan. Only that one of them is emerging and the other is International. There's plenty of other anime that are culturally significant to Japan, like JoJo, but if I had to name 3 that are most significant, it would be Dragon Ball, One Piece, and Demon Slayer. All three from Different Eras, all equally important. And I find that kinda wholesome! I love it. And this is just in Jump by the way. There's PLENTY of others outside of Jump too. Sailor Moon anyone?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

When is the character presentation dropping?

On Thursday at 9:00 AM.

 

[KoopaSaki]

The big thing I got going through my mind is Lloyd Irving's fate when Thursday arrives with the Pyra/Mythra presentation. Either his mii costumes coming back or maybe they wait till the last character to reveal him or maybe there is a FP3 in development. Either way I hope he doesn't get gutted like Geno did with Sephiroth.....
What would you guys rate his chances of being a mii costume again?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What would you guys rate his chances of being a mii costume again?

99.9% certain.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Video is up, now the waiting game starts..

 

[Geno Boost]

Here is something for fun List 10 more villains you want to add in smash

 

[Otoad64]

Here is something for fun List 10 more villains you want to add in smash

let's see...

1. Dr. Eggman
2. Kamek
3. Plasm Wraith
4. Porky
5. Giovanni
6. Inky, Blinky, Pinky & Clyde
7. Dark Matter
8. Sylux
9. Samurai Goroh
10. Vaati

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Here is something for fun List 10 more villains you want to add in smash

1. Eggman
2. Black Shadow
3. Dr. Coyle
4. T-elos
5. Monokuma
6. .... uuuhhhh i think I can only muster 5 villains whoops

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Here is something for fun List 10 more villains you want to add in smash

For the widest definition of villain

1. Waluigi
2. Sylux
3. Susie (Kirby: Planet Robobot)
4. Kamek
5. Blood Falcon/Black Shadow
6. Medusa (Kid Icarus)
7. Eggman/Shadow
8. Bass
9. Akuma/M. Bison
10. Unique moveset for Enderman

 

[Deleted member]

Here is something for fun List 10 more villains you want to add in smash

I'll bite.

1. Eggman: Iconic, unique, and really funny.
2. Malos (Shulk Echo): God damn does this guy exude chad energy. Plus the voice actor did an amazing job; 11/10 villain.
3. Kamek: I've always wanted him as a Yoshi villain.
4. Slime: Slime counts as a DQ villain right? I would've preferred Slime to Hero anyway so this is a no brainer for me.
5. Dr. Coyle: Honestly don't know much about ARMS but she seems cool, + more female characters is always a plus for representation.
6. Shadow (Sonic Echo): Still somewhat surprised this didn't happen in the base roster tbh.
7. Octoling (Inkling Echo or unique): Splatoon deserves it. I didn't really jive with the gameplay but the aesthetic is top tier and I'd love more of it in Smash. Hopefully it branches out into different genres I'd find more enjoyable lol.
8. Tom Nook: Another character I would've preferred to who we actually got. Tom Nook will always be a lovable filthy capitalist racoon loan shark in my heart, no matter how much newer titles try to rehabilitate him.
9. Gruntilda: Copy paste what I said about Dr. Coyle.
10. Ganon: Pig Ganon is the coolest incarnation don't @ me. Totally not just an excuse for a unique Ganon moveset nothing to see here.

 

[SNEKeater]

I don't normally go off looking for Japanese Smash videos


But looking at this vid, it seems like their discussion characters aren't too terribly different than ours lol

Sakurai slapping Kiryu is a sight to behold.

Also I love how some character's faces change when they're slapped. The Crash one is hilarious lol

 

[Geno Boost]

Here is something for fun List 10 more villains you want to add in smash

Mine would be
1. Porky
2. Black shadow
3. Daroach
4. Boshi (echo)
5. Gill (street fighter)
6. Dr. Eggman
7. Black knight
8. Skull kid
9. Captain Syrup
10. CATS (zero wing)
I would have mentioned heihachi but I see him more of an anti hero following the series it feels like Donkey Kong and wario and meta knight situation

 

[Michael the Spikester]

It's still amazing how far Ultimate has gone so far.

I mean who ever would have thought and imagined there'd ever be a same game that has all together?

To this day I still can't believe such a game exists.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

1. Eggman
2. Treble & Bass
3. M Bison
4. Kefka
5. Kamek
6. Pyramid Head
7. Dr Coyle
8. Geese Howard
9. Porky
10. Vaati

 

[TraaP]

Number of new playable franchises per Smash game:

64: 10
Melee: 3
Brawl: 5 + R.O.B = 6
4: 10 + Miis = 11
Ultimate: 8 (currently).

This made me realise that 1/3 of the new playable characters in melee were from Zelda & 3/4 were returning series.

 

[Deleted member]

I like how the presentation is nice and early in the morning, but I hate how I now have to suffer through an entire week just to get to it.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I like how the presentation is nice and early in the morning, but I hate how I now have to suffer through an entire week just to get to it.

Entire week? It's just 3 days away...

 

[Deleted member]

Entire week? It's just 3 days away...

It's still Monday morning, so I have to get through
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
and part of Thursday

It feels like forever for me lol

 

[Michael the Spikester]

It's still Monday morning, so I have to get through
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
and part of Thursday

It feels like forever for me lol

That's nothing compared to me with having still an entire month (Or 25 days) for Godzilla vs. Kong.

 

[Deleted member]

It was to appeal to the west as we typically enjoy more realistic looking games.

Honestly, I think that's more of a generational thing rather than a straight up overall fact. Most kids around my age aren't playing Call of Duty, they're playing Fortnite, Splatoon, all these games that are very cartooney in nature. I myself don't tend to enjoy games that are realistic and try to avoid them; although there are games like Breath of the Wild that are fairly realistic that I enjoy.

 

[Deleted member]

That's nothing compared to me with having still an entire month (Or 25 days) for Godzilla vs. Kong.

I'm eager for that as well, but I miss the movie theater experience. Hard to get hyped for movies when local theaters around me have shutdown permanently. I think there's just one left, but its up in the air if it'll ever actually open again.