Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Paraster]

So I think the most likely gunners are probably Bill Rizer, Master Chief, Doomguy, Tracer, Elma, and Vincent Valentine. Do Mega Man characters count as gunners?

Still think Quote's odds are underrated. At this point, I'd say he's more likely than Elma, Vincent, and maybe Bill.

 

[Gengar84]

I really wish Turok counted as a video game character. I loved Turok 2 and he had some awesome weapons. Plus, I need this song in Smash:

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[Rie Sonomura]

So I think the most likely gunners are probably Bill Rizer, Master Chief, Doomguy, Tracer, Elma, and Vincent Valentine. Do Mega Man characters count as gunners?

Surely Octoling counts too? Splatoon is a game about shooting ink after all

 

[Gengar84]

Surely Octoling counts too? Splatoon is a game about shooting ink after all

I have a feeling Octoling is going to be saved for the base game of the next Smash. They haven’t really had semiclones as paid DLC in either pass and I can’t picture Octoling having a completely original move set separate from Inkling but I could be wrong.

Another character I neglected to mention is someone from Borderlands. That series is huge and on the Switch but in never really gets any attention in Smash.

 

[Sucumbio]

You have no idea how right you are…View attachment 326004

Oh but I do!... Haha! I dooo.

 

[MattX20]

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it?

 

[Gengar84]

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it? View attachment 326009

I would be fine with it. I’ve never played the games but the character has a cool design and the stages are very pretty.

 

[subterrestrial]

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it?

I'd immediately wake up from the wonderful dream I'm having

 

[Evil Trapezium]

What would your reaction be in the hypothetical scenario where the last DLC character ended up being Asuka from Senran Kagura?

Nope.

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it? View attachment 326009

Eh... kind of lame in my opinion. She looks nice but I fail to see any move potential.

 

[SNEKeater]

I think Quote is kinda overlooked for an indie rep. Not that I'd say he's a likely candidate for CP11, but idk, I wouldn't be that surprised if we get some Cave Story content. Quote getting a Mii costume seems like a no brainer decision.

 

[subterrestrial]

yall sleeping on BOXBOY smh

 

[ZelDan]

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it? View attachment 326009

"Oh FFS we're 3 Microsoft in and STILL no Master Chief!? I mean, I liked the Ori games and all but come on."

 

[MattX20]

Nope.



Eh... kind of lame in my opinion. He looks nice but I fail to see any move potential.

Ori's a she

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Celeste is a phenomenal game, one of the best indie games I've ever played. The soundtrack, the level design, the story... 10/10 game.

Madeline as a playable character is not going to happen but I'd totally take a Mii costume, specially a "Premium" one. I'd pay in blood if they chose this track to come with the costume:

Or maybe this one:

Tbh I'd prefer a costume over a character as 1: I feel like you need to stretch a lot to make a moveset for a character who's entire movelist is jump, run, 8 directional dash and climb and while 8 directional dash can be fun, I feel an actual fighter should use it and 2: I would straight up feel bad beating up this alcoholic, suicidal bundle of anxiety and trauma lmao

 

[Theguy123]

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it? View attachment 326009

would be cool I guess. It’s someone I don’t know anything about so it’s a chance to learn about them.

 

[SNEKeater]

Tbh I'd prefer a costume over a character as 1: I feel like you need to stretch a lot to make a moveset for a character who's entire movelist is jump, run, 8 directional dash and climb and while 8 directional dash can be fun, I feel an actual fighter should use it and 2: I would straight up feel bad beating up this alcoholic, suicidal bundle of anxiety and trauma lmao

Yeah that's a fair point. Maybe Madeline isn't the character with the biggest moveset potential out there.

Though I think you could do something interesting if Sakurai had some creative freedom. Like, maybe the strawberries you collect in the game could be part of her moveset in some capacity? Badeline could play a part as well in her moveset.

It would be also very weird to see her in 3D now that I think about it lol

 

[MattX20]

For those who haven't seen it, Ori was playable in Rivals of Aether. She's got moveset potential from her original games and Aether translated it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1ONBAG-k24

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yeah that's a fair point. Maybe Madeline isn't the character with the biggest moveset potential out there.

Though I think you could do something interesting if Sakurai had some creative freedom. Like, maybe the strawberries you collect in the game could be part of her moveset in some capacity? Badeline could play a part as well in her moveset.

It would be also very weird to see her in 3D now that I think about it lol

Tbf I've seen suggestions of Badeline attacking like she's a Stand and that does help for an attack or two but it still leaves a **** ton to make up for normals which are just as important as special moves for selling a character imo

 

[Twilord]

If you had to choose one of these, who would it be?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

If you had to choose one of these, who would it be?

I'll go with since he's already in Smash Bros.

 

[SKX31]

This week's tourney is...

Who's got the best head?

Spoiler

Yes, I know what I said

Going to say that is a contender - okay, one of his headbutts is not always practical, but instead immense stylepoints in certain situations:

If it turned out that Ori made it in as FP11, how'd you guys feel about it?

Somewhat interested, although not my favored Microsoft pick. That said, I do not know how she plays in any real detail, so I'd see that inclusion to learn more about the character and the game itself. (Forgot briefly about RoA, huh. While we're on that subject, I'd love to see a small mechanics change from there and Melee: namely that parries should be able to reflect projectiles.)

Tbh I'd prefer a costume over a character as 1: I feel like you need to stretch a lot to make a moveset for a character who's entire movelist is jump, run, 8 directional dash and climb and while 8 directional dash can be fun, I feel an actual fighter should use it and 2: I would straight up feel bad beating up this alcoholic, suicidal bundle of anxiety and trauma lmao

TBF, it may not be as much of a stretch as it appears since is also relatively original in design. Sure, it took until Ultimate to iron out the jank he had (especially his grab) but still, the result is a character with versatile projectiles, absurd combo game and amazing recovery (with the caveats that he struggles to kill early and some of his tools can be predictable).

No, the comparision isn't entirely fair since Pac-Man also draws from the Namco arcade games for his moveset while Madelene would draw from just one game, but I still feel like one can take Madelene's base design and build from there.

Still, the second point is entirely valid - it'd be like some Spirits in the game (Paz and Ness' Dad, for example) only now with the increased risk of trolls teabagging online.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Speaking of Doomguy, I am pretty suspicious of the fact Dragonborn was chosen as the well requested costume choice from Bethesda when Doom was quite clearly the more talked about choice.

Thats not to dunk on Skyrim or anything, but Doomguy was the one mentioned in tons of interviews.

I’m not super confident in Doomguy after the interview, but I wouldn’t fully count him out after Grant Kirkhope’s mild bit of tomfoolery about Banjo.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

If you had to choose one of these, who would it be?

If you know me by now you know who I'd pick

But incase you don't I'd easily pick Red, Angry Birds has become a staple name, getting many games and two movies, and Rovio bringing back the old games is wonderful.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I’m p sure Ori’s pronouns are they/them?

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Seeing some Ori and Madaline talk:

Have y'all seen these moveset videos? They look good to me as someone who hasn't played either game, but I'm just posting them here for fun.

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[MarioKartRenderOwner]

If you had to choose one of these, who would it be?

mobile gaming has a lot of things i have problems with (albeit it'd be silly to deny a lot of that is now in console gaming) so i don't have a TON of interest in a character from that side of gaming coming to smash, that being said i think red the angry bird would be an objectively hilarious character to see just BE in smash at all. the dragila lost kid's probably ok, i'd buy him a juice box or something to make up for red the angry bird getting in

 

[MattX20]

I’m p sure Ori’s pronouns are they/them?

No, the ingame dialogue says quite clearly she and her

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

No, the ingame dialogue says quite clearly she and her

I didnt even know Ori had a sex. i though thry were just some sexless dragon creature pff

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Speaking of Doomguy, I am pretty suspicious of the fact Dragonborn was chosen as the well requested costume choice from Bethesda when Doom was quite clearly the more talked about choice.

Thats not to dunk on Skyrim or anything, but Doomguy was the one mentioned in tons of interviews.

I’m not super confident in Doomguy after the interview, but I wouldn’t fully count him out after Grant Kirkhope’s mild bit of tomfoolery about Banjo.

At the same time, Skyrim is easily one of if not the biggest games from the last decade

 

[Megadoomer]

No, the ingame dialogue says quite clearly she and her

I'm pretty sure those uses of "she" or "her" would be referring to Ori's mother figure, Naru, or Kuro, the villain of the first game. Ori's either genderless or doesn't have a specified gender, according to the game's creators in a Reddit AMA.

 

[Arctiq]

Seeing some Ori and Madaline talk:

Have y'all seen these moveset videos? They look good to me as someone who hasn't played either game, but I'm just posting them here for fun.

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Goddang, that's a really creative moveset for Madeline. Now I want it to happen.

 

[SNEKeater]

Found this and thought it would be interesting to share here

Before you are our top five most pre-ordered games for the Nintendo Switch. Can you guess which is number one? Bonus points if you can put all five in the correct order.

Give us your best guess in the replies and we'll let you know the correct order... soon. pic.twitter.com/Uk1Eolf42B

— GameStop (@gamestop) August 11, 2021

Kinda surprised the new Wario Ware isn't in the top 5

 

[Dan Quixote]

If you had to choose one of these, who would it be?

I downloaded a Snake custom stage and it's actually pretty good. Anyways Angry Birds Red totally deserves it but idk how he would actually do anything in Smash. In Angry Birds the game, he never moves on his own and only gets launched. In the movies, he has arms and legs but that's the far less iconic movie design so idk

 

[Eldrake]

Found this and thought it would be interesting to share here

Before you are our top five most pre-ordered games for the Nintendo Switch. Can you guess which is number one? Bonus points if you can put all five in the correct order.

Give us your best guess in the replies and we'll let you know the correct order... soon. pic.twitter.com/Uk1Eolf42B

— GameStop (@gamestop) August 11, 2021

Kinda surprised the new Wario Ware isn't in the top 5

Metroid Dread is top 5 most preordered switch game right now

Neat, I must say.

 

[SKX31]

Found this and thought it would be interesting to share here

Kinda surprised the new Wario Ware isn't in the top 5

TBF, those five have also been rather hot commodities as of late, so in that sense the upcoming WarioWare has a lot of "competition". That's not to say that WarioWare might've performed poorly - chances are pretty good that there's quite a lot of preorders too.

(Edit: ****, confused the date initially, Was referring to this pic from February, and I missed that this tweet was pinned. There's been a recent Japan FGC Publishers Roundtable though - recorded July 31st - available here. Sure, no Sakurai, but still sharing since people here may find it interesting.)

 

[Idon]

Found this and thought it would be interesting to share here

Before you are our top five most pre-ordered games for the Nintendo Switch. Can you guess which is number one? Bonus points if you can put all five in the correct order.

Give us your best guess in the replies and we'll let you know the correct order... soon. pic.twitter.com/Uk1Eolf42B

— GameStop (@gamestop) August 11, 2021

Kinda surprised the new Wario Ware isn't in the top 5

Every game up there has a smash character...

all but one.

 

[cj.]

I downloaded a Snake custom stage and it's actually pretty good. Anyways Angry Birds Red totally deserves it but idk how he would actually do anything in Smash. In Angry Birds the game, he never moves on his own and only gets launched. In the movies, he has arms and legs but that's the far less iconic movie design so idk

He can move in Angry Birds Toons and many other spin-offs, plus said spin-offs would help with the moveset.

 

[subterrestrial]

an angry bird would easily be the most hilarious way to end the dlc

even funnier if its not the red one

 

[Sucumbio]

2 pokemon games Dread and the one Mario franchise I've never touched. Pokemon is so hype after decades it's incredible. At this time I'm about 50 percent certain fp11 is a new Pokemon and 35 it's smt rep. Only leaves 15 for all the other characters out there ... But I'm thrilled whoever gets in. This ride has been amazing.

 

[Lyncario]

Found this and thought it would be interesting to share here

Before you are our top five most pre-ordered games for the Nintendo Switch. Can you guess which is number one? Bonus points if you can put all five in the correct order.

Give us your best guess in the replies and we'll let you know the correct order... soon. pic.twitter.com/Uk1Eolf42B

— GameStop (@gamestop) August 11, 2021

Kinda surprised the new Wario Ware isn't in the top 5

SMTV is in the top 5

That's amazing, even if there's a very low chance of it being above the lowest spot, it's still very high. Maybe this timeline is worth saving, after all.