Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[GilTheGreat19]

Tfw it still can’t do 4K tho. That’ll probably be for the Switch’s successor

The Switch is still selling great and Nintendo knows this; I bet we won't get the Switch's successor revealed to us for the next few years.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Not a fan of Demon Whisper or?

I am, but if physical moves for Nahobino look like that then I'm ditching the magic build, what gets so much better with Demon Whisper

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Not if he gets an early build of the game (like happened with Three House)

Byleth still got released 6 months after Three Houses launched despite Sakurai having an early build of the game, so by that logic.... yeah, Nahobino's not coming out in 2021 if it'd be him.

And Three Houses was a Nintendo game, so Sakurai would probably have had an easier time getting an early build of that game than an early build of a third-party game since Nintendo is always keeping an eye on the stuff Sakurai makes.

or keeps in touch with Atlus during development.

Can still be kinda unreliable even if the two are super up-to-date unless Atlus is 100% commiting to everything they're doing first try and never scrapping any content that could potentially be used as a moveset... which seems like an unrealistic path to me.

Smash Roy having a completely different personality than canon Roy due to Sakurai not being able to get some info on time probably gave Sakurai the wake-up call to not make major content based on games that isn't finalized yet.

Nahobino, assuming it gets released in September/October, would have started development March/April if we go by the "DLC fighters take around 6 months of development" thing. At that point, SMT V might not be finalized but obviously all the key elements of the game, characters and story are already decided.

I don't think it's that hard. The hard part IMO comes from Nintendo actually going with the new protag and if they want to release a character before it's game of origin comes out.

Yeah, I agree on that being the hard part. It feels like too huge of a gamble to release a character months before that character's game is even out.

And besides, even with a proper release date, SMTV isn't immune to delays. There's always a chance it might not make it in store shelves in 2021 until the day it comes out, making it an even bigger gamble on Nintendo's part.

If Nintendo decides to push SMT, I have the feeling they'd go for Demi-Fiend instead. He's fairly popular and already has a full game released years ago to draw from which recently got a remake released so SMT3 is fresh on people's minds. That feels like a safer bet while still giving SMT that push.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Byleth still got released 6 months after Three Houses launched despite Sakurai having an early build of the game, so by that logic.... yeah, Nahobino's not coming out in 2021 if it'd be him.

And Three Houses was a Nintendo game, so Sakurai would probably have had an easier time getting an early build of that game than an early build of a third-party game since Nintendo is always keeping an eye on the stuff Sakurai makes.


Can still be kinda unreliable even if the two are super up-to-date unless Atlus is 100% commiting to everything they're doing first try and never scrapping any content that could potentially be used as a moveset... which seems like an unrealistic path to me.

Smash Roy having a completely different personality than canon Roy due to Sakurai not being able to get some info on time probably gave Sakurai the wake-up call to not make major content based on games that isn't finalized yet.


Yeah, I agree on that being the hard part. It feels like too huge of a gamble to release a character months before that character's game is even out.

And besides, even with a proper release date, SMTV isn't immune to delays. There's always a chance it might not make it in store shelves in 2021 until the day it comes out, making it an even bigger gamble on Nintendo's part.

If Nintendo decides to push SMT, I have the feeling they'd go for Demi-Fiend instead. He's fairly popular, has a remake coming out and already has a full game released years ago to draw from. That feels like a safer bet while still giving SMT that push.

The SMT3 HD remake on Switch came out about a month and a half ago.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The SMT3 HD remake on Switch came out about a month and a half ago.

Oh, it's already out? My bad then. Fixing my post right now.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

Uhm, okay, out of the blue?

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Well, 350$ for a wider and more detailed screen, an actually useful stand, a LAN Port built in, and bragging rights. Not a bad deal all things considered.

This is definitely one of the weirder things Nintendo could’ve done to make a “Switch Pro.”

IT HAS BLUETOOTH

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All Switch models have Bluetooth, its how they connect controllers to the console. Hopefully, they’ll enable support for Headphones and all the other Bluetooth products. Still pissed they have the technology in the console but don’t extend it to other Bluetooth products when it’d be so easy. At least there are 3rd party accessories to make that possible.

 

[osby]

I am, but if physical moves for Nahobino look like that then I'm ditching the magic build, what gets so much better with Demon Whisper

If physical build makes the magic one obsolete, this game is truly a spiritual successor to Nocturne.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Hot damn! A LAN port!

Sports White Mage was my first waifu and I'm not ashamed to admit. She should be the one in Smash of this group.

We. Need. Mii. Mages!

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Hot damn! A LAN port!

We. Need. Mii. Mages!

Ayo?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Well, 350$ for a wider and more detailed screen, an actually useful stand, a LAN Port built in, and bragging rights. Not a bad deal all things considered.

This is definitely one of the weirder things Nintendo could’ve done to make a “Switch Pro.”

All Switch models have Bluetooth, its how they connect controllers to the console. Hopefully, they’ll enable support for Headphones and all the other Bluetooth products. Still pissed they have the technology in the console but don’t extend it to other Bluetooth products when it’d be so easy. At least there are 3rd party accessories to make that possible.

Yeah I was hoping to use my Bluetooth earbuds with the Switch

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Mii Mage..
Ya know I've always wanted to dress my Mii Mage like my Wizard101 character

 

[MarioRaccoon]

Good thing is that probably CP11 will be released near the OLED model.

Banjo-Kazooie CP was released 2 weeks early than Switch Lite model.

So it can happened that CP11 releases by september 17/24th.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Two color schemes currently listed, the double white joycons with white dock and the neon red and blue joycons with black dock. Price as stated before is $350.

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[RawstyleEevee]

Two color schemes currently listed, the double white joycons and the neon red and blue. Price as stated before is $350.

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I just hope the Joycons are revised to, because of the drift problem

 

[Gengar84]

Hot damn! A LAN port!

We. Need. Mii. Mages!

I just want a good character creator outside of just Miis. I never really liked what Miis looked like so I never cared to make any. I do love character creators in most games though.

Something that would be cool, but would probably never happen, is if we got the tools to recreate every avatar character in Smash like Robin or Corrin. My characters in those games looked nothing like the default appearance.

 

[Technomage]

What we really need is that Mii Maker from Miitopia (that, and maybe some more custom moves).

 

[Perkilator]

Two color schemes currently listed, the double white joycons with white dock and the neon red and blue with black dock. Price as stated before is $350.

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That white one seems perfect for Metroid Dread.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The rumors also said DLSS… and the battery life is roughly the same

at least it has more onboard storage so that’s a plus I guess

 

[Gengar84]

What we really need is that Mii Maker from Miitopia (that, and maybe some more custom moves).

That’s a good compromise. I think that is probably doable in Ultimate if Sakurai and Nintendo really wanted to. An actual character creator would probably be way too much work to implement in Ultimate at this point but maybe some day.

 

[Perkilator]

You think a game like KH3 could work on Switch with the extra storage space?

 

[RileyXY1]

You think a game like KH3 could work on Switch with the extra storage space?

The series is almost Sony-exclusive, but with Sony abandoning the Japanese market they could bring KH to the Switch instead.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The series is almost Sony-exclusive, but with Sony abandoning the Japanese market they could bring KH to the Switch instead.

Didn’t they claim the KH HD remixes were incompatible with the Switch’s specs? Which I call bull**** on that, they’re literally upscaled PS2 games

 

[Mushroomguy12]

That white one seems perfect for Metroid Dread.

Even more fitting that it was picked to be the very first game shown off in the trailer on the new model.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

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So does my dad Bluetooth adapter that I can plug right into the USB slot

 

[Guynamednelson]

Two color schemes currently listed, the double white joycons with white dock and the neon red and blue joycons with black dock. Price as stated before is $350.

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The white color scheme with that image on the screen makes me think of Macs.

 

[RileyXY1]

Byleth still got released 6 months after Three Houses launched despite Sakurai having an early build of the game, so by that logic.... yeah, Nahobino's not coming out in 2021 if it'd be him.

And Three Houses was a Nintendo game, so Sakurai would probably have had an easier time getting an early build of that game than an early build of a third-party game since Nintendo is always keeping an eye on the stuff Sakurai makes.


Can still be kinda unreliable even if the two are super up-to-date unless Atlus is 100% commiting to everything they're doing first try and never scrapping any content that could potentially be used as a moveset... which seems like an unrealistic path to me.

Smash Roy having a completely different personality than canon Roy due to Sakurai not being able to get some info on time probably gave Sakurai the wake-up call to not make major content based on games that isn't finalized yet.


Yeah, I agree on that being the hard part. It feels like too huge of a gamble to release a character months before that character's game is even out.

And besides, even with a proper release date, SMTV isn't immune to delays. There's always a chance it might not make it in store shelves in 2021 until the day it comes out, making it an even bigger gamble on Nintendo's part.

If Nintendo decides to push SMT, I have the feeling they'd go for Demi-Fiend instead. He's fairly popular and already has a full game released years ago to draw from which recently got a remake released so SMT3 is fresh on people's minds. That feels like a safer bet while still giving SMT that push.

Especially for a third party title like SMTV.

 

[Gengar84]

I’m not really expecting an SMT character at all for Ultimate. I think there is a solid chance for the next game, especially if it picks up where Ultimate left off. For now, I’m assuming Joker is probably sufficient to represent SMT/Persona. I’ve never played a true SMT game but I’m planning on buying 5 so I wouldn’t really complain if I was wrong.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Didn’t they claim the KH HD remixes were incompatible with the Switch’s specs? Which I call bull**** on that, they’re literally upscaled PS2 games

I think mostly everyone calls bull**** on that lol. Everyone saw three that and was like "yeah ****ing right, SE"

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I think mostly everyone calls bull**** on that lol. Everyone saw three that and was like "yeah ****ing right, SE"

Hey you don't know! They could be horribly unoptimized.

 

[Ivander]

So.....what is different with the Oled Nintendo Switch and what exactly is an Oled screen? Or at least, what exactly does the Oled screen do for image quality and whatnot?

What we really need is that Mii Maker from Miitopia (that, and maybe some more custom moves).

I would be really excited to see what people would do using the Miitopia Mii Maker with Smash Bros. outfits. Like using the Geno outfit with a Geno made with Miitopia's Mii Maker.

If the Miitopia Mii Maker also allowed the customization of different expressions, like attacking, getting hit, having a different expression when taunting, etc, that'd be amazing too.

 

[Momotsuki]

The OLED Switch looks cool! ...For new adopters, that is. From a current Switch owner's POV, that is absolutely not worth the price. I'll keep my day one unit, methinks. I do think it's neat, though! The white model looks really slick.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

So.....what is different with the Oled Nintendo Switch and what exactly is an Oled screen?

From a quick Google search, they're uh...LEDs, but different. It's just a different way of lighting the screen.

As for what's different:

Well, 350$ for a wider and more detailed screen, an actually useful stand, a LAN Port built in, and bragging rights.

 

[Gengar84]

So.....what is different with the Oled Nintendo Switch and what exactly is an Oled screen? Or at least, what exactly does the Oled screen do for image quality and whatnot?

I would be really excited to see what people would do using the Miitopia Mii Maker with Smash Bros. outfits. Like using the Geno outfit with a Geno made with Miitopia's Mii Maker.

If the Miitopia Mii Maker also allowed the customization of different expressions, like attacking, getting hit, having a different expression when taunting, etc, that'd be amazing too.

That is really impressive. How does Miitopia’s Miimaker work exactly? Can you import textures from outside sources and lay them over the Mii face model? I know WWE games and Soul Calibur have done that.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I do believe the OLED screen means a better refresh rate and response time, I guess it’s slightly more hardcore? In terms of people who play hardcore competitively though

 

[Guynamednelson]

How does Miitopia’s Miimaker work exactly? Can you import textures from outside sources and lay them over the Mii face model?

They're not imported textures. Miitopia Miis can just be a LOT more detailed.

 

[Momotsuki]

I don't know how people take the Switch with them. I'd be ridiculously anxious over it breaking, haha. I use my Switch as purely a home console, for the mentioned reason as well as the fact that due to how I have things set up, I need to plug it into my PC to coldboot it. I don't really see a benefit to upgrading myself, but I'm glad the option exists for most others, and with this new model it will be better for new adopters.

Most I'll ever do is undock it and kickstand it next to my monitor, especially when making Miitopia miis or debugging a mod.

 

[Ivander]

That is really impressive. How does Miitopia’s Miimaker work exactly? Can you import textures from outside sources and lay them over the Mii face model? I know WWE games and Soul Calibur have done that.

I don't think it has imported textures, I think it just allows for alot of detail with some of the stuff. Like you know how in regular Mii Maker, some people have created some Miis using the placement of their features? Miitopia's Mii Maker just allows for alot more placement with stuff.

If you want a list of what people have done with Miitopia's Mii Maker, you can find alot here.

Know Your Meme

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[Mushroomguy12]

I don't know how people take the Switch with them. I'd be ridiculously anxious over it breaking, haha. I use my Switch as purely a home console, for the mentioned reason as well as the fact that due to how I have things set up, I need to plug it into my PC to coldboot it. I don't really see a benefit to upgrading myself, but I'm glad the option exists for most others, and with this new model it will be better for new adopters.

I personally keep it in a case when bringing it over to friends and family's houses, but yeah, I don't nearly use it as portably as I did my DS and 3DS due to how much larger it is. Maybe if I had a Switch Lite, but alas I'm not really interested in spending a couple hundred dollars on an extra convenience (not to mention the headache of keeping track of data across two systems since I still care about playing docked).

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I do believe the OLED screen means a better refresh rate and response time, I guess it’s slightly more hardcore? In terms of people who play hardcore competitively though

I don't imagine the screen will matter for competitive players. They use TVs anyway.

Perhaps that's not the case for Splatoon players...

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

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Uh, doesn’t the Switch already do Bluetooth?