Technomage
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Huh, never thought about that possibility. Thanks for restoring some hope for me.
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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II
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Michael the Spikester
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At this point we don't know.
It could be a low, mid, or high key 1st party or low, mid, or high key 3rd party. Sakurai like as always has thrown us off the loop.
SMAASH! Puppy
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That's definitely true if he gets in after X, but I think Central Highway would still come with him if he was first since it's the most iconic area in the series by far (as far as I know at least) and while it is more associated with X, Zero makes his debut there too.
I don't remember an area like that...Is X5 the one where the fortress starts off with a poorly designed Force Beam segment?
Michael the Spikester
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Anniversaries normally don't coincide with reveals but Crash's 25th anniversary will be in September. Just a thought.
Not expecting it though and keeping expectations low.
Not expecting it though and keeping expectations low.
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More low-key, I think it’ll be Dante. (Tekken sold double as the Devil May Cry franchise, so I presume Dante would be lower budget)
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definitely a lowkey first party promo pick, they always end off with one
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not for long he ain’t…
say. OP of that thread hasn’t been on since 2018. It’s gonna be REAL awkward when that happens
PeridotGX
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E.M.M.I from Metroid Dread gets in, fans choose not to call Sakurai biased despite being almost identical to the FE situation from 4.
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That situation is actually still bleeding into other Smash games.
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E.M.M.I. gets in
Fast as ****
Invincible
Every attack one shots the opponent
I think I just found my new main.
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Honestly, I could see Dante needing an Higher budget for Development, but it depends on what they do with his Moveset
If they add alot of Sub-Weapons to his moveset, in addition to the Regular Rebellion and Ibony and Ivory, as well as his Devil Trigger form, it could be bigger or on par with Kazuya. Not only with all the animations that Dante needs, but that's alot of modeling and animating for the Weapons, and the Devil trigger form. This also doesn't include other potential mechanics like Styles, Specil taunts, Crazy Combos (from DMC3), etc. Of course it's dependent on how many mechanics Dante would come with, how many moves each Sub Weapon gets, and etc.
If they stick with the basics, then the budget won't be too much (though personally Dante wouldn't be feeling Crazy if that's all he had)
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Kerrigan and Illidan are two of my most wanted characters for Smash but Arthas is pretty high up there with them. I’ve always loved Blizzard’s characters and world building so there are quite a lot of characters I’d love to see make it in. Personally, I think Kerrigan has the most potential to faithfully represent RTS mechanics since it makes perfect sense for her to summon Zerg units. Arthas and Illidan might feel a little strange summoning units.
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It'd be cool to see how Sakurai would incorporate E.M.M.I.'s movement.
But in all seriousness though, if we get a promotional pick from Dread, it'd more likely be the Chozo guy confirmed to have some kind of role in the game. It's fairly likely that that Chozo is the one depicted in two secret picture in Samus Returns, one of which shows that they have an arm cannon similar to Samus's and isn't afraid to use it. And there's a good possibility they might use a halberd too, expanding their moveset potential.
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So far, E.M.M.I. reminds me quite a lot of the Guardians with how early on, they are very threatening if they spot you. Doesn't help that both share the one-eye scanning motif.
But I want to wait for Dread to come out before making a decision. Cause I want to see who that Chozo character is. Should that Chozo character be cool and have moveset potential, I would certainly choose the Chozo character over the E.M.M.I.
Louie G.
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To be completely honest with you, I genuinely have no idea what to make of CP11 yet. And I'm unsure whether or not I'm even going to bother trying this time.
I'd say we could see another major Japanese IP to probably a slightly lesser extent to Tekken, probably from either Sega or Capcom. I thought I'd be over and done with the "big" picks after E3 too but upon further thinking it's not out of the question. I mean, we got Cloud in a normal ass Direct too. I really don't know right now, which is... exciting I guess? But also a little discouraging with only one character left, it feels less rewarding to talk about. Whatever happens happens, yadda yadda.
I don't think it'll be a lame first party promo pick like a lot of people have convinced themselves of though, I still don't really buy the whole ending on a lownote thing.
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Dan Quixote
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I think the E.M.M.I. robot is much more suited for Assist Trophy or boss territory. I know Smash spits in canon all the time but literally the defining feature of these things is that they're invincible to everything except Samus's Final Smash. Either way, Metroid is pretty good on its amount of Smash fighters rn.
Cutie Gwen
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Ok but for real I ****ing love E.M.M.I those ****ers are scary, you see how they don't even try to move in a realistic human fashion? They ****in twist and contort their bodies when climbing up walls and ****, I'd applaud the Smash team on animation if they went or them and nothing else so far as the game's not out yet
SpectreJordan
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I agree. Everyone & their mother’s caught on to the whole “Smash doesn’t end with hype characters thing”, but when everyone latches onto an idea like that then they’re usually wrong. Case in point: Everyone (including me) thinking that the Heihachi Mii meant Tekken wasn’t getting a character.
Oooor that idea is right & we’re getting something more lowkey like Octoling or Decidueye. I’m not really into the idea of either of them but it would tie in nicely to Splatoon 3 & the new Pokemon. With Minecraft, Final Fantasy & Tekken in this pass I don’t think they really need another big name, there’s already more Star power here than in FP1.
Basically anything can happen & no one will be right lmao
I don't think Steve is a very good example, since we don't know Nintendo's original intentions for his reveal.
I think Cloud is a fine example, though.
Of course neither of those characters was last, but we'll see how it plays out.
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Next fighter is Leon S Kennedy with Claire Redfield as an alt. Both will use their RE2 appearance. They will use a knife and various other weapons. Why them? Because RE2 is the most iconic game of the series and Nintendo wants characters from IPs that (noewdays) have deals with Sony (Persona, Final Fantasy, Tekken and Resident Evil).
The stage is raccon police department with zombies and lickers as a gimmick.
The stage is raccon police department with zombies and lickers as a gimmick.
Shroob
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The best part about this whole CP11 thing is we simply just don't know what to expect.
Vergeben shot what little credibility he had in the foot, and Brush has shown that getting Nintendo info? Pretty dang hard.
The worst part about CP11 is it won't be until September, and while Kazuya launches at the end of June, giving us basically only about a 2 month wait until September.... those two months are gonna suck due to "The last character will suck!" "No, they'll be hype!" "Smash always ends on a low note!" "Low note is subjective!" until September.... at the earliest.
Vergeben shot what little credibility he had in the foot, and Brush has shown that getting Nintendo info? Pretty dang hard.
The worst part about CP11 is it won't be until September, and while Kazuya launches at the end of June, giving us basically only about a 2 month wait until September.... those two months are gonna suck due to "The last character will suck!" "No, they'll be hype!" "Smash always ends on a low note!" "Low note is subjective!" until September.... at the earliest.
RGFS
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Nice! I might as well share my Sims moveset idea to whoever's morbidly curious. Now with fixed formatting! I really wish the post button wasn't next to preview lol.
The Sims Moveset Idea:
The Sims as a series: semi-real people doing real-world things with a bit of oddness thrown in. That’s how the Sims should fight.
Bella Moves In!
Mortimer Reads the Opponents!
Dina Doesn’t Simmer Down!
Don Wants to Smash!
Cycl0n3 Plays with Battl3!
Morgana Joins the Family!
Bob Cooks Up a Fight!
Eliza Gets to Fight!
Mortimer Reads the Opponents!
Dina Doesn’t Simmer Down!
Don Wants to Smash!
Cycl0n3 Plays with Battl3!
Morgana Joins the Family!
Bob Cooks Up a Fight!
Eliza Gets to Fight!
Alts are 2 pre-made Sims from each main game
The Sims 1
Bella Goth
Mortimer Goth
The Sims 2
Dina Caliente
Don Lothario
The Sims 3
Cycl0n3 Sw0rd
Morgana Wolff
The Sims 4
Bob Pancakes
Eliza Pancakes
The Sims 1
Bella Goth
Mortimer Goth
The Sims 2
Dina Caliente
Don Lothario
The Sims 3
Cycl0n3 Sw0rd
Morgana Wolff
The Sims 4
Bob Pancakes
Eliza Pancakes
Series Symbol
Plumbob
They have the iconic green Plumbob over their head at all times. It gets more red the more damage they take.
Idle Pose
Standing upright. A determined, but pretty relaxed idle.
Stage Entrance
The Sim is dropped by an Alien beam and you see it fly off in the background.
Plumbob
They have the iconic green Plumbob over their head at all times. It gets more red the more damage they take.
Idle Pose
Standing upright. A determined, but pretty relaxed idle.
Stage Entrance
The Sim is dropped by an Alien beam and you see it fly off in the background.
Special Attacks
Neutral: Fire Extinguisher: Pushes opponents and can be aimed like Bowser’s fire.
Side: Fight!: command grab that becomes a mashing competition in a dust cloud.
Up: Fishing Rod: Aimed like a tether recovery in the air but also similar to Isabelle's Fishing Rod on the ground.
Down: Change Spin: Reflects projectiles.
Neutral: Fire Extinguisher: Pushes opponents and can be aimed like Bowser’s fire.
Side: Fight!: command grab that becomes a mashing competition in a dust cloud.
Up: Fishing Rod: Aimed like a tether recovery in the air but also similar to Isabelle's Fishing Rod on the ground.
Down: Change Spin: Reflects projectiles.
Normal Attacks
Neutral: Boxing Gloves Jab
Side: Slap ‘Em Silly: like Peach’s but, less damage, faster, and with two more hits
Up: Air Horn
Down: Mop sweep
Dash Attack
Tripping (Like Dr. Wright and in Sims 3) / Shoving (Like in Sims 2)
Neutral: Boxing Gloves Jab
Side: Slap ‘Em Silly: like Peach’s but, less damage, faster, and with two more hits
Up: Air Horn
Down: Mop sweep
Dash Attack
Tripping (Like Dr. Wright and in Sims 3) / Shoving (Like in Sims 2)
Smash Attacks
Side: Trashcan Kick / Fire Extinguisher Smack
Up: Fireworks
Down: Cow Plant
Final Smash
Supernatural Encounter: the sim summons a UFO that ends up taking the opponent to Magic Town. There, everything from Vampires, Ghosts, Witches, Wizards, Werewolves, Fairies, Skeletons, and Mummies quickly swarm the opponent dealing damage in a big cloud of dust. The Grim Reaper then quickly finishes it all off with one swipe of his scythe that instantly KOs at 100%.
Side: Trashcan Kick / Fire Extinguisher Smack
Up: Fireworks
Down: Cow Plant
Final Smash
Supernatural Encounter: the sim summons a UFO that ends up taking the opponent to Magic Town. There, everything from Vampires, Ghosts, Witches, Wizards, Werewolves, Fairies, Skeletons, and Mummies quickly swarm the opponent dealing damage in a big cloud of dust. The Grim Reaper then quickly finishes it all off with one swipe of his scythe that instantly KOs at 100%.
Aerial Attacks
Neutral: Air Spin
Forward: Frying Pan
Back: Kitchen Knife
Up: Spatula
Down: Monkey Wrench
Neutral: Air Spin
Forward: Frying Pan
Back: Kitchen Knife
Up: Spatula
Down: Monkey Wrench
Grabs and Throws: Grabs with one hand
Pummel: Uses second hand to shock with hand buzzer
Forward: Pillow Smack
Back: Spinning throw from GBA Sims
Up: Baby Toss Animation
Down: Gnome Smash that buries
Pummel: Uses second hand to shock with hand buzzer
Forward: Pillow Smack
Back: Spinning throw from GBA Sims
Up: Baby Toss Animation
Down: Gnome Smash that buries
Taunts
- Selfie
- Waving while saying “Sul Sul”
- Thinking with a random thought bubble
- Celebrating with confetti
- Beating the Grim Reaper at Chess
- Petting the Cowplant
Stage
Old Town: Could be a traveling stage like Wuhu Island with other Pre-Made Sims (Landgraabs, Specter, Altos, etc.) as well as more unique ones (Tragic Clown, Mystery Man, Animals, Burglar, and etc.) appearing in the background
Old Town: Could be a traveling stage like Wuhu Island with other Pre-Made Sims (Landgraabs, Specter, Altos, etc.) as well as more unique ones (Tragic Clown, Mystery Man, Animals, Burglar, and etc.) appearing in the background
Music
The Sims:
Main Theme
Under Construction
Mall Rat
BoSIM Nova
SIM Nights (New Remix)
The Sims 2:
The Sims 2 Theme
Simsation
The Sims 3:
The Sims Theme
Identity Check (New Remix)
The Sims 4:
It’s The Sims
Here Comes the Autumn (New Remix)
December
The Sims:
Main Theme
Under Construction
Mall Rat
BoSIM Nova
SIM Nights (New Remix)
The Sims 2:
The Sims 2 Theme
Simsation
The Sims 3:
The Sims Theme
Identity Check (New Remix)
The Sims 4:
It’s The Sims
Here Comes the Autumn (New Remix)
December
Extra Music
Urbz Sims in the City:
Pop One
Ze Fron
SimCity (SNES):
Dr. Wright (New Remix)
SimCity 3000:
SimCity 3000 Theme
Sim Broadway
SimCity 4:
Rush Hour
Street Sweeper
SimCity 2013:
SimCity Theme
Disaster!
Bonus:
Another World
Mayzie Grobe
Sims Rock Legacy Medley
Urbz Sims in the City:
Pop One
Ze Fron
SimCity (SNES):
Dr. Wright (New Remix)
SimCity 3000:
SimCity 3000 Theme
Sim Broadway
SimCity 4:
Rush Hour
Street Sweeper
SimCity 2013:
SimCity Theme
Disaster!
Bonus:
Another World
Mayzie Grobe
Sims Rock Legacy Medley
Classic Mode: Bustin' Out!
- Isabelle and Duck Hunt - Pets
- Joker - Burglar
- ROB - Servo, Plumbots, and Simbots
- Mewtwo - Aliens
- Piranha Plant - Cow Plant
- Ganondorf - The Grim Reaper
- Master Hand - The Sims fighting the Watcher (aka the player) from “The Sims Medieval”
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Inferno7
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Neither
I think it will be on the same tier
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ngl decidueye's inclusion is kinda obvious at this point
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God it's weird to see Decidueye listed as a low key pick now. Gone are the days of base game speculation when it was one of the most talked about choices, sadly.
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Pretty cool moveset. Now, what would spirits be? I'd be glad to see Emit Relevart as one of them.
Michael the Spikester
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Eeup. These next months its gonna be a bloodbath, everyone biting at each others throats. Because whoever is the last character, we all lose as plenty of people still wouldn't have gotten their characters.
Is the promo Pokemon ever a high-key pick? Pokemon is huge but most people wouldn't even care about the given candidates were we not conditioned to only expect the character to be among two or three possibilities residing in the spotlight at the time.
If Pokemon inclusions were like others, we'd be talking about an entirely different group of candidates.
If Pokemon inclusions were like others, we'd be talking about an entirely different group of candidates.
Eldrake
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Since there was some brief talks about the Chozo, their inclusion would make these artworks very prophetic.
Louie G.
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Not really, Gen 7 already got a good amount of content with Incineroar's inclusion in base game (just minus a stage) and it's too early to speculate about Pokemon Legends content seeing how that's largely the reason he's back on the table. In that case there'd be no real reason not to just... go with Gen 8, which has no content yet.
Unless Decidueye brought some Pokken content I guess, lmao. Feels a bit late for that.
I'd never say never but it does seem pretty unlikely with only one character remaining. Although Kazuya is technically the second fighting game character we got in FP2, for whatever that's worth. Nightmare in particular seems like a stretch because >Namco.
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Shroob
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At the very least, assuming, and this is assuming, that the September comes early-mid in September, if we even get one of course, after Kazuya drops on the 28th, we only really have 2 months to wait.
But man, that 2 months is gonna suck.
subterrestrial
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how is it "too early to speculate"? the game comes out in January lmao its easy promotion
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Well the only thing I will say when it comes to CP11 being the last character is that
Nintendo picked all 6 characters that they thought would Sell as DLC..
I do understand that at this stage in the game, The Last characters have less responsibility to sell a Fighter pass like the earlier characters, But all characters in DLC were picked because Nintendo felt that had good chance of selling, if not an entire pass, than at least as Separate characters
Nintendo doesn't automatically try to pick disappointing characters. Corrin and Byleth weren't picked because they were good at disappointing people, but because having a character from a game that is on people's mind (since it came out) does do good numbers from DLC. It's why the "Advertisement characters" are from Franchises that have shown Proven successful sales data and such.
So I think whoever this Last character is gonna be one that Nintendo absolutely has confidence in and has shown appeal to audience in one form or another. I have good faith that this last character will have some good appeal, even if it's controversial choice
Of course It doesn't really narrow down the choices, just wanted to give more of an optimistic look into the whole "Last character will be disappointment" angle
Nintendo picked all 6 characters that they thought would Sell as DLC..
I do understand that at this stage in the game, The Last characters have less responsibility to sell a Fighter pass like the earlier characters, But all characters in DLC were picked because Nintendo felt that had good chance of selling, if not an entire pass, than at least as Separate characters
Nintendo doesn't automatically try to pick disappointing characters. Corrin and Byleth weren't picked because they were good at disappointing people, but because having a character from a game that is on people's mind (since it came out) does do good numbers from DLC. It's why the "Advertisement characters" are from Franchises that have shown Proven successful sales data and such.
So I think whoever this Last character is gonna be one that Nintendo absolutely has confidence in and has shown appeal to audience in one form or another. I have good faith that this last character will have some good appeal, even if it's controversial choice
Of course It doesn't really narrow down the choices, just wanted to give more of an optimistic look into the whole "Last character will be disappointment" angle
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Yep, that's the one lol
I suggested that one mostly because of it's significance and well, because it's literally called Zero Stage. The level design of that stage wasn't the best, at least at the beginning, but I think speaking in terms of aesthetic and all, it looks very cool and could be a dope stage for Smash.
Those laser beams at the beginning of the level and the other threats of the whole stage could work as a fine stage hazards, I guess.
Brother AJ
Smash Lord
Are y'all really so certain we'll see this character in September?
RGFS
Smash Journeyman
Spirits wise, they could do a few things. The Grim Reaper would definitely be the Legendary Spirit. Maybe add stuff like the well-known premade families as spirits like the Landgraabs, maybe also the Burglar, Ghosts, Cowplant, and Repo-men? I do wonder if they would add a few expansion pack characters too as spriits. It would be pretty cool though, especially Aliens and Pets.
Michael the Spikester
Smash Obsessed
There's normally a 3-4 month gap between character reveals.
I swear this is like the third character you've said this about
If there's a Nintendo Direct, chances seem minute that a reveal won't be part of it.
Shroob
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We've never gone a September without a Direct.
Even 2020 gave us the Mario 35th one.
September Direct is like, the safest prediction in the world, because that's when Nintendo starts talking about their holiday lineup more in-depth.
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