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The main image I had in mind was that we choose characters to talk about, then cycle through them every couple of days. Give everyone enough time in the spotlight, but not to the point that we all run out of steam. Though, the question remains as to how we choose the characters. Maybe just do a quick survey and see which names we get? After that, I suppose we can just have requests throughout the thread too.
I wonder if they'll add a Pokemon from Sword and Shield. I'm not going to mention the spirit event for this case.
I at least expected spirits for Decidueye and Lycanroc
This isn't really a big argument as Ultimate had like 3 brand new stages, bringing back old content took up a lot of resources too so there wasn't much priority at all
Gaige is my favorite Borderlands character as well. It also helps that I really like Luci Christian and Cheremi Leigh as voice actresses. It’s also Luci’s only video game roll I’m aware of but I’m sure there must be at least a few others I haven’t heard of.
Spirit Event as a consolation prize for being released too late for the main game seems par for the course to me. Pokemon is huge as always, but I struggle to see a Gen 8 Pokemon being one of either the E3 or final Smash reveal.
They live in spirits. Within all of us. As memories.
It's ****ing amazing:
TBF Snake, all Links and B-K can blow themselves up with their own explosives (also, Peach's bomb pull on the rare occassion she gets that). Adept Snake players will more often than not pull a grenade when they're hit in the air in order to stop them from getting combo'd - and they will C4 themselves if they need to get back to stage (so will skilled Links). B-K have a bit more advanced recovery / stall tactic with their Grenades since they need to drift towards their Grenades for it to work.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say simply that it wasn't that prioritized.
Cutie Gwen
's point about there being only 3 new stages is valid, especially since those three were Odyssey, BotW (the Switch launch titles) + Splatoon, a series that had none prior to Ultimate. Okay 4 if we count good ol' Vlad's castle, but still. This pretty much extended to the music and Spirits too, since there were other series that were prioritized (Castlevania got a ton of music and spirits for example).
Honestly, I was thinking a nomination system for the exploration thread as well. I know I said just copying over the RTC structure wouldn't work, but that's mostly because we wouldn't be rating things. A nomination system, in addition to just being a way to decide what characters get discussed next, is also a good way to encourage the kinds of conversation we want to see in the thread. You see this with how RTC rewards people who give more in-depth rating explanations, and we could theoretically use it to encourage questions, answers, and/or movesets if we come up with the right rules.
Yuri is my fav tales character just because of him and his partys interactions. Yuri is just so damn sassy, i love it
Yeah, a nom system could work. Would have to be tweaked compared to RTC, though. 5 noms minimum sounds good; Maybe another five/ten for explanation writeups, movesets, stages, etc. Something to keep everyone engaged; As
Cutie Gwen
mentioned, RTC's big advantage is that the noms encourage people to check by, even if they don't know/care about the character being rated.I'm just gonna assume he had one of those Smash dreams we keep having except it was too late to change the roster, so he just decided "%$#@ it, Spirit time."
Yeah I wouldn't consider it a big deal either, but the lack of SwSh content when they knew it'd be releasing about month before this was a bit surprising. I mean, they could have easily just asked the Pokemon team for a couple of music tracks or a model or two to use for a Pokeball pokemon.
I will never forget that there is a warframe spirit. For a while I got the lotus spirit all the time on spirit board.
They're hated by the competitive community; therefore Sakurai doesn't really add those kinds of stages anymore.
Well Boo on them! They've already got what they want; give something to us filthy casuals, dangit!
Yeah, they could just go with the BF and FD versions of each stage; no need to make more variety for those guys (which they would most likely hate, anyways).
....this isn't true. Sakurai doesn't give 2 ****s with the competitive community likes when adding stages to Smash as evidenced by 90% of the stages in the game.
Probably budget constraints so they have to settle on simpler stages. That's my guess.
I think there's a bit more to it than that.
I mean, the game wasn't out yet, the only times Smash included content from unreleased games was when said games got delayed for whatever reason, Binding Blade and Woolly World coming to mind
I can't help but disagree, I feel super satisfied when I manage to combo people with wallbounces, KoF Stadium's unique dynamic makes it easily the best stage Smash has seen in years, especially in chaotic 4-8 player matches as there's plenty of room to have something done without feeling too claustrophobic
And honestly, the stage is unique enough that it doesn't need any other gimmicks. Maybe we can have similar stages with more direct hazards, but I'm fine with this being the Battlefield/Final Destination of traditional fighting game stages.
Well, one of the big things we're trying to encourage is questions, right? While if you don't know a character in RTC you can't really rate them, in the exploration thread, not knowing about the characters being discussed is half the fun, so to speak. Because of that, I wonder if we should leave abstaining out...Yeah, a nom system could work. Would have to be tweaked compared to RTC, though. 5 noms minimum sounds good; Maybe another five/ten for explanation writeups, movesets, stages, etc. Something to keep everyone engaged; As
On the topic of unique stage hazards, I'd love to see a Peggle stage where occasionally the cannon at the top fires a ball which deletes any pegs it hits. The flat pegs would serve as the main stage and the round ones would still interact with the ball but not the player. And if you fall in the Bonus Bucket at the bottom you don't lose your stock and instead screen warp to the top of the stage.
How about double nominations when you ask a certain amount of questions? It can be questions like "How would they play? What would be a cool stage? Any good songs?" Or something else as long as it's related to the character such as say, "Boy howdy I like the sound of this Adol Christin fellow you're singing such high praises about, what game of the series do you recommend I try first?" I thought it'd be an idea to set a minimum requirement of questions for your nominations to count but that can get messy if someone already asked something you wanted to ask
Something like bonus points for asking questions seems kinda forced if you ask me. But some sort of reward for engaging in active discussion / giving feedback sounds nice. An issue with RTC is it's mostly just people popping up and giving scores without much discussion outside of that.
This seems like a pretty fluid way of handling a traveling stage. It only happens once you trigger it, so there's some freedom in when it shifts. maybe we should make sure the bonfire's in a fairly out-of-the-way place, to avoid accidentally changing. The different bosses sound pretty interesting, too, though I'm not sure how many bosses we can realistically squeeze in.
Yeah, I think they should be in a place that requires minor platforming or a small challenge to get to. My main goal was to reflect the adventure/story of the original game.
Ah, I didn't think of the fact that someone else could snag questions. That could cause problems, so we need to keep it in mind going forward.
Hey, look, this is exactly the sort of discussion I would want out of the Character Exploration Thread!
Maybe there's a rule of one question per post, and you must wait for 2-3 people to ask their questions before you can ask another. The number could also be subtracted if someone posts a moveset/stage/tracklist/etc. idea without a prompt from a question.
Small correction: Northern Crater's a Small Battlefield / Kalos esque stage.
Pretty sure that's also driven by those who see the competitive rulesets and want to follow for one reason or another (whether to improve themselves, because they're a fan of a certain known player etc.). That was noticeable both in Smash 4's / Ultimate's online as well as in more unofficial online modes like Slippi's - there will always be a section of lower-level / casual players who prefer to fight on competitive rulesets. Even if they're themselves a minority compared to the casual players who just want to fire up a 4 / 8 player match and see Sonic smack Mario right onto some Minecraft blocks.
Honestly I kinda think that it would be enough - since a lot of stages have segments that take 2-4 minutes before they loop (Rainbow Cruise, Castle Siege, etc.). I also get the impression that the DS bosses wouldn't have annoying ways to avoid attacks (Yellow Devil's dissolution shenaningas, Metal Face or the Dark Emperor deciding to "lol bye" into the background) so those 5 bosses might take 4 minutes if they get focused on every now and then. It would be even faster if it was a 5 people+ battle, and then AT's / Pokeball Mons / certain Final Smashes etc. might do damage to the bosses too if they're activated in a match.
Sounds good. While it came across as a lot of overhead at first, I don't think this is the sort of thing you actually need to enforce very often. You just tell people about it, and they'll just, like, do it. I've never seen anyone nominate a character for rerating on RTC too soon after being rated, and I didn't even know it was a rule until now. So I think this would work out naturally.
