Official DLC Character Discussion Thread - Read the new sticky/announcement

[Strider_123]

@bobert4936

EVERYTHING. WRONG. WITH. THIS
Young Link was replaced by Toon Link and everyone's okay with that. *ding*
Comparisons to a fighting game and a racing game is dumb *ding*
Said racing game's characters are almost entirely cosmetic *ding*
Implying that no one didn't like MK8'Ks roster *ding*
SIN COUNT. 4
FINAL SENTENCE. An extra hour in the ball pit

should have been
Final Sentence: A hour playing brawl battling meta knight

 

[tetrix]

I feel like Shantea is going to be the next DLCcharacter due to i found a name that will be voicing as her in the future.....

 

[MainJPW]

I've done this before, but what's Cinimasins?
CinemaSins Jeremy for smash

....Looks like I get a sin for misspelling. *Ding*

 

[Cutie Gwen]

@bobert4936

should have been
Final Sentence: A hour playing brawl battling meta knight

That's reserved for when someone says something that makes me lose a minimum of 10 braincells

 

[JaidynReiman]

I feel like Shantea is going to be the next DLCcharacter due to i found a name that will be voicing as her in the future.....

You mean on IMDB? IMDB is user-edited, if you see anything on there that's not officially confirmed, its fake. Don't buy into it, we have no idea who the next character will be. Personally I think of anyone it'll be K. Rool, but that's just me.

 

[POKEMANSPIKA]

I feel like Shantea is going to be the next DLCcharacter due to i found a name that will be voicing as her in the future.....

On IMDB. Something people can edit. That's like saying Super Saiyan Pichu will have his own game, because it was written on Smashboards see.

Super Saiyan Pichu will have his own game.

 

[tetrix]

If anyone wants I can decode(hack) and see if theres any upcoming events

 

[Strider_123]

If anyone wants I can decode(hack) and see if theres any upcoming events

yes please :D

 

[_Sheik]

You mean on IMDB? IMDB is user-edited, if you see anything on there that's not officially confirmed, its fake. Don't buy into it, we have no idea who the next character will be. Personally I think of anyone it'll be K. Rool, but that's just me.

More like b i a s m8

 

[Aetheri]

If anyone wants I can decode(hack) and see if theres any upcoming events

NO! No decoding! No hacking! I'm tired of leaks and I'm sure Sakurai and co is especially tired of it...
Let us find out about upcoming events when it is intended...I'd rather not know what's going to be shown at a Direct or Smash announcement ahead of time....it ruins the hype and the purpose of speculation...

 

[Wintropy]

For better or for worse, leaks are inevitable.

Best thing to do is buckle in and get ready for what's yet to come.

 

[FalKoopa]

If anyone wants I can decode(hack) and see if theres any upcoming events

You seem confident...

I don't think Nintendo didn't catch Roy and Ryu being leaked so early. I expect them to have done something to prevent data-miners for leaking stuff again.

 

[Ura]

Young Link was replaced by Toon Link and everyone's okay with that. *ding*

Not everyone. Especially not me.

For better or for worse, leaks are inevitable.

Best thing to do is buckle in and get ready for what's yet to come.

Well for what it's worth, there was no leak in the July 31st update despite many leakers stating that the update was large showing that the dev team was aware of the mistake they made in April and went through extra precautions to make sure it didn't happen again.

That's my take on it at least. I honestly believe the April 15th leak was a massive screw up by Nintendo.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Not everyone. Especially not me.

Fine, 95% of the population's fine with it. At least come up with a burn, otherwise you've got that sword for nothing

 

[Ura]

Fine, 95% of the population's fine with it. At least come up with a burn, otherwise you've got that sword for nothing

95%? The number has to be smaller than that. There's still a good portion of people that want YLink back but have come to accept that he won't be playable in this iteration of Smash.

Some people just prefer YLink over TLink like myself. I personally believe cutting him was a mistake and that YLink could have easily stayed in Brawl if they just added TLink as an alt for him with different animations for his attacks. That way we could have had both Links in the game and everyone would be happy.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

TLink as an alt for him with different animations for his attacks.

lol. But seriously, what does Ylink do that Tink doesn't?

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

I personally prefer Young Link, but I completely understand the decision to have Toon Link instead of him. The only reason I'd want Young over Toon now is to utilize the masks. Toon Link covers a whole different series of Legend of Zelda games that Young Link does not.

 

[JaidynReiman]

More like b i a s m8

No, I genuinely think it'd be him. I can't think of any other character who would have the impact K. Rool would have as the first ballot character revealed. For maximum impact, the next character should be a Nintendo newcomer, not another third-party newcomer, and not another veteran. It also can't appeal to just Japanese or Western audiences (ESPECIALLY Western audiences), they'd need a global appeal.

95%? The number has to be smaller than that. There's still a good portion of people that want YLink back but have come to accept that he won't be playable in this iteration of Smash.

Some people just prefer YLink over TLink like myself. I personally believe cutting him was a mistake and that YLink could have easily stayed in Brawl if they just added TLink as an alt for him with different animations for his attacks. That way we could have had both Links in the game and everyone would be happy.

I'd take Young Link over Toon Link any day, but with Toon Link I see no point in bringing Young Link back.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I personally prefer Young Link, but I completely understand the decision to have Toon Link instead of him. The only reason I'd want Young over Toon now is to utilize the masks. Toon Link covers a whole different series of Legend of Zelda games that Young Link does not.

If Sakurai's so against Ganondorf getting a new moveset why would he give Yink something new?

 

[Deleted member]

Making Toon Link an alt for Young Link does not work.

Toon Link's head is way too big to fit on Young Link's model.

This is not counting the problems with the body shape and the Like. Next thing you will say is that we should make Pichu an Alt for Pikachu.

 

[Ura]

lol. But seriously, what does Ylink do that Tink doesn't?

He's a vet. Cutting him would upset people that liked or mained him in Melee and with a simple solution of keeping him in Brawl while adding TLink as an alt, I don't see what the problem is.

I'd take Young Link over Toon Link any day, but with Toon Link I see no point in bringing Young Link back.

Well for this Smash game yes you're right but he should return in the next game with his MM masks along with his old moveset. If we can have 3 Marios (yes, i'm counting Luigi here because of how he aesthetically looks like Mario and his moveset is similar), then I don't see the problem with having 3 Links especially if their going to be a lot different from each other.

Making Toon Link an alt for Young Link does not work.

Toon Link's head is way too big to fit on Young Link's model.

This is not counting the problems with the body shape and the Like. Next thing you will say is that we should make Pichu an Alt for Pikachu.

Mashpotato Samurai could have thought of a solution to that problem.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Making Toon Link an alt for Young Link does not work.

Toon Link's head is way too big to fit on Young Link's model.

This is not counting the problems with the body shape and the Like. Next thing you will say is that we should make Pichu an Alt for Pikachu.

bruh, we should make IC an alt for Captain Falcon, totally possible

 

[Champ Gold]

Aesthetic wise, Toon Link is more appealing than Young Link and represents a part of the Zelda series moreso than YLink ever will.

Only way YLink can ever be considered is that he gets a MM moveset based around the Masks but after what Sakurai did with transformations, YLink with a unique move set isn't happening and I rather bring in a unique Zelda character than just a younger version of OOT Link.

What ever YLink does TLink does better and is superior in a aesthetic standpoint

 

[Cutie Gwen]

He's a vet. Cutting him would upset people that liked or mained him in Melee and with a simple solution of keeping him in Brawl while adding TLink as an alt, I don't see what the problem is.


Well for this Smash game yes you're right but he should return in the next game with his MM masks along with his old moveset. If we can have 3 Marios (yes, i'm counting Luigi here because of how he aesthetically looks like Mario and his moveset is similar), then I don't see the problem with having 3 Links especially if their going to be a lot different from each other.



Mashpotato Samurai could have thought of a solution to that problem.

Bruh. We have had 2 games without Yink and both had Tink. Pretty sure there's a reason. I don't care if he cut off my cat's nuts, him being playable in the past means nothing as he isn't unique.
Counting Luigi, a character who's not Mario, is dumb. It's not just aesthetics, but gameplay.

Tink was given a different bair solely because of his stubby lugs. Your precious Mashpotato said that in an interview iirc

 

[Ura]

Aesthetic wise, Toon Link is more appealing than Young Link and represents a part of the Zelda series moreso than YLink ever will.

This is the kinda thing that really bugs me because I see a lot of people bringing this up. How do you gauge how TLink is more appealing than YLink? Because he's cartoony? Because he represents the cel-shaded games?

Honestly this sorta thing bugs me. YLink is the Hero of Time, the most popular, iconic, and most recognizable Link's in the entire franchise. Why isn't that a factor at all in determining the appeal of the character? Really...

Bruh. We have had 2 games without Yink and both had Tink. Pretty sure there's a reason. I don't care if he cut off my cat's nuts, him being playable in the past means nothing as he isn't unique.
Counting Luigi, a character who's not Mario, is dumb. It's not just aesthetics, but gameplay.

Again, he's a vet and cutting vets upset people. He obviously couldn't be in this game due to the lack of transformations so it was only expected that he wouldn't make the cut. I'm not saying he'll make Smash 5 for sure but there's a possibility that he can return if he can incorporate an MM-like moveset in addition to the moveset he had in Melee.

Again, Luigi isn't Mario but he has a similar moveset to Mario and has a similar aesthetic look that he has. I was only pointing that out as a means to show that the 3 Links could co-exist in one game especially if they play a lot differently from each other.

 

[Aetheri]

As someone who dislikes the idea of a Baby Link in general (in whichever form) I'd only take a third Link if he'd happen to be in Wolf form with a Twili Imp on his back...

Otherwise no deal...

 

[ZeldaMaster]

The ballot closes soon... just give us Wolf, Ice Climbers, K. Rool, and Isaac. That would make the majority of all people on Smashboards happy.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ice Climbers

smh

This is the kinda thing that really bugs me because I see a lot of people bringing this up. How do you gauge how TLink is more appealing than YLink? Because he's cartoony? Because he represents the cel-shaded games?

Honestly this sorta thing bugs me. YLink is the Hero of Time, the most popular, iconic, and most recognizable Link's in the entire franchise. Why isn't that a factor at all in determining the appeal of the character? Really...

The iconic Hero of Time is ADULT Link. Toon Link's also iconic, especially for the handheld games

 

[APC99]

He's a vet. Cutting him would upset people that liked or mained him in Melee and with a simple solution of keeping him in Brawl while adding TLink as an alt, I don't see what the problem is.


Well for this Smash game yes you're right but he should return in the next game with his MM masks along with his old moveset. If we can have 3 Marios (yes, i'm counting Luigi here because of how he aesthetically looks like Mario and his moveset is similar), then I don't see the problem with having 3 Links especially if their going to be a lot different from each other.



Mashpotato Samurai could have thought of a solution to that problem.

The thing with Young Link is that the one thing that could make him unique, transformations, have been removed because they strain the 3DS. Besides his Fire Arrows, Young Link was designed as a faster, lighter clone of Link. And wouldn't you know it, Toon Link fulfills all of that and more, being a more iconic representation of the hero. Young Link, without transformations, is too aesthetically and thematically similar to Toon Link, a character already in the game.

As for the three Marios, Dr. Mario was a last-minute addition, and Luigi functions extremely different from the Marios to a point where he can't really be called a "Mario", he's the Smash equivalent to Ken.

There isn't really too much of a feasible playstyle for Young Link that makes him different from Toon Link. It's just going to have to be said that Toon Link is the evolution of Young Link's playstyle from Melee.

 

[Deleted member]

We are not going to get the Ice Climbers unless all 3ds in the world get magically upgraded.

Don't even DARE to say "Wii U exclusive" or "New 3DS exclusive".

 

[Champ Gold]

This is the kinda thing that really bugs me because I see a lot of people bringing this up. How do you gauge how TLink is more appealing than YLink? Because he's cartoony? Because he represents the cel-shaded games?

Honestly this sorta thing bugs me. YLink is the Hero of Time, the most popular, iconic, and most recognizable Link's in the entire franchise. Why isn't that a factor at all in determining the appeal of the character? Really...

YLink has been in 1 1/2 games. And what ever he represents in the Zelda series, it was moreso Adult Link or in particular. He represents the 3D games featuring older Link begat ever games represents the younger Link and the 2D games have always been .

What people remember more of OoT was this

Which is YLink based from. So yes, it's because he's cartoony and also has a unique personality and animations

 

[Ura]

smh

The iconic Hero of Time is ADULT Link. Toon Link's also iconic, especially for the handheld games

Really? Because Young Link had much more exposure than Teen Link had in their respective games. Young Link was the main focus in both the Child portion of OoT and all of MM while Teen Link was only the focus of the later part of OoT. I will agree that the Teen version is more iconic though Child Link is still really iconic given that he still is the Hero of Time.

Which is YLink based from. So yes, it's because he's cartoony and also has a unique personality and animations

Again, Teen Link is the more recognizable of the 2 though Child Link was featured more in OoT/MM. He's still the same character and people can easily recognize him more so than the other Links.

That other point is redundant kinda considering that Link never really had a fleshed out personality until TWW.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Really? Because Young Link had much more exposure than Teen Link had in their respective games. Young Link was the main focus in both the Child portion of OoT and all of MM while Teen Link was only the focus of the later part of OoT. I will agree that the Teen version is more iconic though Child Link is still really iconic given that he still is the Hero of Time.

If he's the most iconic, than answer me these questions.
Who killed Ganon?
Who's appeared in every major Zelda game, Adult or Young? Keep in mind, Fierce Deity was originally going to be Adult Link or something
Who's in Smash?

 

[Deleted member]

Adult Link has been the Poster Boy of the Zelda Series.

For Instance: When Link appeared in Soul Calibur 2, he was given his appeareance of an adult rather than a child.

Why? Becuase it looks more cool like that.

People like Adult Link more just because he looks more cool. So it makes sense that his Child counterpart looks cartoony and colorfull.

 

[BluePikmin11]

If Sakurai's so against Ganondorf getting a new moveset why would he give Yink something new?

The least I expect is a few new moves for YL if Sakurai were to add him in the game. I think masked transformations are a possibility, but only if they are temporary transformation attacks.

If he's the most iconic, than answer me these questions.
Who killed Ganon?
Who's appeared in every major Zelda game, Adult or Young? Keep in mind, Fierce Deity was originally going to be Adult Link or something
Who's in Smash?

He just said he's really iconic, not that he is the most iconic.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

YLink is the Hero of Time, the most popular, iconic, and most recognizable Link's in the entire franchise.

The least I expect is a few new moves for YL if Sakurai were to add him in the game. I think masked transformations are a possibility, but only if they are temporary transformation attacks.


He just said he's really iconic, not that he is the most iconic.

Not to mention transformations are dead

 

[TimidKitsune129]

I'm not in either side of this debate, but here's Young Link's Melee trophy:

"Link's younger incarnation is often considered to be the true Link: he was a young boy in the very first Legend of Zelda game, and he has appeared as a youth in most of the subsequent games. Since his debut on the original NES in 1987, Link's appearance has changed over and over again, each time adding to the mystique of his incomparable story."

So according to this, Young Link was the more recurring incarnation up until Melee.

 

[Ura]

If he's the most iconic, than answer me these questions.
Who killed Ganon?
Who's appeared in every major Zelda game, Adult or Young? Keep in mind, Fierce Deity was originally going to be Adult Link or something
Who's in Smash?

I assume you're talking strictly OoT and MM because if you're talking about the series in general, then what you're saying doesn't apply. YLink would be my answer because he was more prominent in the 2 games as a whole.

And the Link in both Brawl and Sm4sH is TP Link and not OoT Link so that last point doesn't mean anything.

Not to mention transformations are dead

^

There's still a good portion of people that want YLink back but have come to accept that he won't be playable in this iteration of Smash.

 

[Scamper52596]

You guys also have to remember that Toon Link represents more than just the Zelda games in the Toon art style. He also represents all of the classic games through his alternate colors along with a few newer titles. NES Link, ALttP Link, and now ALBW Link. That's why Toon Link was chosen to help represent the Zelda franchise over Young Link. He ultimately represents about half of it in just his character alone when you consider his alts referencing all of the classic Zelda games. Young Link can't do that nearly as well, and that's mainly why Toon Link was chosen to replace him. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Not to mention transformations are dead

Yes, I am aware of this completely which is why I responded with this:

I think masked transformations are a possibility, but only if they are temporary transformation attacks.

Think of temporary transformation attacks like when Pac-Man temporarily turns into his pizza form for some attacks.

You guys also have to remember that Toon Link represents more than just the Zelda games in the Toon art style. He also represents all of the classic games through his alternate colors along with a few newer titles. NES Link, ALttP Link, and now ALBW Link. That's why Toon Link was chosen to help represent the Zelda franchise over Young Link. He ultimately represents about half of it in just his character alone when you consider his alts referencing all of the classic Zelda games. Young Link can't do that nearly as well, and that's mainly why Toon Link was chosen to replace him. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

It's not confirmed to be the case though. I think the alts are very irrelevant to what he represents, he represents the Toon games than anything else.