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Woah 3 seconds would make it the longest move in the game, longer than Warlock Punch lol. We usually measure moves in frames, with 60 of them in a second in Smash. An average aerial comes out between 7-10 frames and most moves end within 45-50. Based on your description, I'd estimate a 9-10 frame startup and a FAF (final active frame) of around 40 frames, or 2/3 of 1 second. Still a cool move idea!
Oops, maybe it should be a little shorter. I never really calculated how quick some of the moves are by seconds.
Oooh it's a close one
Sure, for more detail I would make the area where Dixie is carrying someone a disjointed collateral hitbox/hurtbox, so you could run into, say, a bomb in a higher platform and it's explosion would hurt who you're grabbing and not yourself. Or jump at another enemy from below and that would damage them (not significantly, but enough to stagger and cause light percentage damage)
That is rather strange, she should be seen as an obvious choice especially after Dark Samus I sort of feel that Metroid and Dk will get the same treatment like in Brawl.
I feel it happens because everyone is vouching for top popular picks. Dixie IS popular, but a step behind Geno, Banjo, Isaac, etc., at least with hardcore fans. Seeing how everyone wants those characters in, people, though admitting Dixie deserves to be in Smash, vouch for her to be an Echo or are indifferent to her.
Agreed here. While Inkling is the only Relevant newcomer who happens to be insanely popular, I doubt Ultimate will strictly be a popularity-only contest. Dixie does have plenty going for her across the board; her positives are well-rounded compared to many of the other options, who excel in a couple areas but are neglected elsewhere. K. Rool casted a massive shadow but the pillar Dixie stood on is still notable and in one case outperforms K. Rool in.
Ridley is relevant and highly popular too. He made a new game appearance last year. You could also say the same for Daisy, both relevant and popular (even if her requests were behind other prospective Mario newcomers).
To be honest, I was going by the project plan timeline, ranging from 2011 to 2015.
I see. However, even then Ridley is still a major Metroid mainstay (and a robot version of Ridley had two boss fights in the Metroid minigame for Nintendo Land which came out in 2012). Daisy herself was naturally relevant and popular too.
I don't know, depends who it is. All the main Nintendo females are already in, and then you just have stuff like female alts of Fire Emblem characters like Robin/Corrin, or the female Villager/Inkling alts. And Palutena was a shoe-in last time due to Sakurai working on Uprising.
And to think Dixie is Nintendo's second female protagonist, I really feel like she should be part of the line up.
Fair enough, I won't overlook those factors going forward.
But you are forgetting that Sakurai also said that Dark Samus and Chrom were added due to fan demand too. So that's 4 characters we know as a fact were added for those reasons.
In case anyone was wondering, the vid actually talked about Funky Kong, and Dixie was touched upon at the end.
This is exactly the mindset that I've been trying to avoid falling in: thinking popularity is all that matters for newcomers.
I've written at length about why Spring Man is not the mascot, because as of right now, ARMS has no mascot. Character driven games often wait for the most popular character, the mascot, to be revealed. Animal Crossing, for example, only established Isabelle as its mascot in New Leaf (2012), eleven years after the first Animal Crossing released in 2001. Mortal Kombat's main protagonist was Liu Kang, and after several iterations of the game, the creators realized Scoprion and his rivalry with Sub-Zero were the heart of the game, making the former/duo the mascot/s.
I thought either Jak and Daxter or Ratchet and Clank or maybe Kratos might have been one of Sony's mascots.
Sony has used characters as temporary mascots, but none of them are official masots (outside of Toro, and that is only in Japan).
I feel like an echo is decided not due to importance but whether they are popular, fit the mold of an existing character and it if wouldn’t be too out of place to share a basic moveset with adjustments to fit their character.
Which attacks can be reanimated to fit the ponytail? For all the talk of replacing Diddy's tail moves with hair moves, people act like he has more than 2 of them. Diddy doesn't rely on his tail, but Dixie does rely on her hair, and not just for attacking and recovery. That's one of the problems with the Dixie mods in all those fan projects.
The two echoes for Donkey Kong, definitively, are Dixie, and Donkey Kong Jr.
I agree with your first statement, but it can go both ways. Echoes being based on characters from the same series aside, why wasn't Ridley an Echo of Charizard? Why can't Banjo be an Echo of Duck Hunt? Isaac an Echo of Robin? They are popular, they fit the mold of an existing character and it wouldn't be out of place for them to share a basic moveset with adjustments. I doubt them being from different series would be the sole deciding factor against them making it as Echoes. No one expected Ridley to be a clone (or Echo). Why? What's objectively different between Ridley and Chrom/Dark Pit/Lucina/Richter? Does Ridley being a top fan request warrant his inclusion as a unique newcomer?
Agreed, When I see those mods that put Dixie over Diddy it just looks so wrong to me, I don't think the moveset really fits her at all
keep in mind this is ONLY A fanmade mod.
This pretty much is why I Dixie's inclusion as an Echo would feel "empty" to me - since this is basically how I'd predict her ending up if becoming a Diddy-Echo (whether with a changed Up-B and Neutral B being Bubblegum Popgun).
Agreed.
The reason why so many people hate assist trophies cause characters with great potential to become nothing an item that randomize their chance in the battle is kind of waste especially when items are off(the last installment really made me hate items honestly) killing their chance to become playable is quite saddening to those who support them.
BirthNote
mentioned before though that her changes to be more unique shouldn't be underestimated so I'm still going to remain hopeful that she makes it.
Nope, it's basically a revolving door position, due to various reasons.
I suspect that he'd pull a Luigi and have her noises be a higher-pitched version of Diddy's, but we'll see what happens.
