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Dixie Kong's Barrel Of Support Spirits. Farewell Everyone, Thank You ALL For Making This Thread An Excellent Place For DK Fans!

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His design for one, also he functions like DK basically would and he has no personality besides "Ridiculously strong baby". He's not as cool as Diddy, likeable as DK or useful at avoiding obstacles like Dixie, and his brother Chunky has more going for him despite being the Heavy of the group.

That said, I don't mind a Dixie-Kiddy duo. I'm not attached to the idea but it can be pretty interesting for a moveset. As long as Dixie's the emphasis like how Rosalina is in her moveset, I'm not complaining.
That's exactly how i think too. It was odd to have 3 DKC games with DK being playable only in one. But i understand if DK had been playable in DKC3 Dixie wouldn't have been the "main" character then.
But main thing for hate is just he took DK's spot and his design overall plus as power-type guy he's just inferior to DK. Hmm i wonder how handslap would have worked in DKC3...
 
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Unique/semi-clone > echo >>>>> being saddled with a character nobody likes

Besides, this isn’t how development works. Sakurai decides who the unique fighters are, then adds clones/echoes later. He doesn’t pick characters and say “unique or not” because the development time and process is totally different. So if she’s an echo it’s because she was already passed on for the base game and later thrown in with an easier development method.

Sakurai has never acknowledged the existence of DKC3 for five games until K. Rool’s recovery, so the addition of Kiddy Kong is about as likely as Brash The Bear.
 

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Unique/semi-clone > echo >>>>> being saddled with a character nobody likes

Besides, this isn’t how development works. Sakurai decides who the unique fighters are, then adds clones/echoes later. He doesn’t pick characters and say “unique or not” because the development time and process is totally different. So if she’s an echo it’s because she was already passed on for the base game and later thrown in with an easier development method.

Sakurai has never acknowledged the existence of DKC3 for five games until K. Rool’s recovery, so the addition of Kiddy Kong is about as likely as Brash The Bear.
Dixie Kong would basically be representing both DKC2 and DKC3 to be honest. We really don't need Kiddy.
 
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Dixie will be an Echo if shes in at all. Don't ask me how I know, because I don't. It is just a strong feeling. Start lowering expectations to that outcome. I'd rather her get that than nothing.
My expectations are already lowered to her not appearing at all, at least in the base game. Being an echo is even lower than that for me.
 

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My expectations are already lowered to her not appearing at all, at least in the base game. Being an echo is even lower than that for me.
I know some people would be upset if Dixie doesn't get revealed for the base roster, but if they decided to add her as DLC and give her a completely unique moveset instead of being a Echo Fighter, I think it would be more worth the wait if you ask me.
 
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My expectations are already lowered to her not appearing at all, at least in the base game. Being an echo is even lower than that for me.
As much as I love Donkey Kong, when I look at Dixie in Tropical Freeze and DKC 2, she is Diddy Kong 2.0. I never saw her being more than just an Echo with a few different animations/moves. I'm not sure whypeople see her getting in as a unique newcomer. It is wishful thinking and isn't happening.

Keep in mind, I love this character (she is in my Top 10), but I'm being real when I say I don't see it happening. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I doubt it. Everything about her and her source material screams "Echo".
 
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As much as I love Donkey Kong, when I look at Dixie in Tropical Freeze and DKC 2, she is Diddy Kong 2.0. I never saw her being more than just an Echo with a few different animations/moves. I'm not sure why people see her getting in as a unique newcomer. It is wishful thinking and isn't happening.

Keep in mind, I love this character, but I'm being real when I say I don't see it happening. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, but I doubt it. Everything about her and her source material screams "Echo".
This nonsense logic has been debunked often enough that I'm not even going to bother telling you why you're wrong. All I ask is can we please stop talking in such negative definitives like this? Whenever I come to this thread anymore it's just an echo chamber, and in more than one way. Dixie is my most-wanted and I don't even want to visit her support thread anymore because all I see is:
I'm not sure why people see her getting in as a unique newcomer. It is wishful thinking and isn't happening.
Guess what? I don't ****ing care if you think that (and this goes for everyone saying this). Maybe you're right. Maybe she will be an echo of Diddy. But ffs, shut the hell up about it. We've all heard it more than enough. Maybe I'll be disappointed in the end, but until it happens, at least let me entertain the possibility of seeing her the way she was meant to be.
 

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This nonsense logic has been debunked often enough that I'm not even going to bother telling you why you're wrong. All I ask is can we please stop talking in such negative definitives like this? Whenever I come to this thread anymore it's just an echo chamber, and in more than one way. Dixie is my most-wanted and I don't even want to visit her support thread anymore because all I see is:

Guess what? I don't ****ing care if you think that (and this goes for everyone saying this). Maybe you're right. Maybe she will be an echo of Diddy. But ffs, shut the hell up about it. We've all heard it more than enough. Maybe I'll be disappointed in the end, but until it happens, at least let me entertain the possibility of seeing her the way she was meant to be.
Nobody has to care, but we are each free to our own opinions. Taking it a little too personally, especially when I am just being real with you. I definitely don't have to be quiet about it at all. It is my opinion as well as many others that has just as much right to be heard as any of yours. Treating a fellow Dixie fan with words like that doesn't make her cause sound more appealing you know..?
 
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If Dixie isn't in the base game, have fun waiting till 2023-2025 for the next Smash.

Dixie's character isn't "big" enough for DLC, that's usually reserved for third party characters or big first party characters that missed the base roster (which would likely be ARMS, Xenoblade 2 reps, a Gen 8 Pokemon, new Fire Emblem character from the upcoming Switch game, etc).

If we don't get Dixie now, you'll likely be waiting for whenever the next Smash comes out, on the next Nintendo console after Switch, and given there's usually a 4-6 year wait between new Smash releases....that puts us at somewhere around the year 2023-2025.

Yeah...I'm not waiting that long. I'll literally be pushing 40 by then. No thanks.
 

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Alright let's leave the Echo stuff alone for a bit and focus on something else.

A while ago, we were saying why we all support Dixie Kong, and with enough new members since then it won't hurt to bring it back up. So, why do you all want Dixie in?

DK is my favorite Nintendo series. I love the charm, the platforming and especially the music of the games, and since Smash Bros showcases Nintendo's best I'm always eager to see DK content. Problem is, up til this game DK's been snubbed like it's not a well-known franchise. It's been ignored, and one way to fix this is to have the 4 most active members of the series playable in Smash. I'm attached to Dixie as a character already, and one of my main goals is to properly complete the DK series in Smash Bros.
 

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Donkey Kong is one of my favorite series, although 4th behind Mario/Zelda/Metroid. Grew up with the DKC trilogy as a kid, DKC2 is my favorite and that has Dixie, and was glad to see her return in Tropical Freeze.

Besides that, Dixie is literally one of the core main characters. Besides Donkey/Diddy, she's the third most important character, and we now have the main villain K. Rool, so it makes sense she would be in. She's also one of the few female heroines Nintendo has that isn't a damsel in distress her whole game like Peach and Zelda often are.

I don't care about any of the other Kong's making it into Smash (although I admit Cranky is interesting someday), but the DK roster seems incomplete without her. DK was also underrepped in Smash for a long time, I can't see any world where Daisy and Dark Samus make it in but Dixie does not.
 

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If Dixie isn't in the base game, have fun waiting till 2023-2025 for the next Smash.

Dixie's character isn't "big" enough for DLC, that's usually reserved for third party characters or big first party characters that missed the base roster (which would likely be ARMS, Xenoblade 2 reps, a Gen 8 Pokemon, new Fire Emblem character from the upcoming Switch game, etc).

If we don't get Dixie now, you'll likely be waiting for whenever the next Smash comes out, on the next Nintendo console after Switch, and given there's usually a 4-6 year wait between new Smash releases....that puts us at somewhere around the year 2023-2025.

Yeah...I'm not waiting that long. I'll literally be pushing 40 by then. No thanks.
This. Dixie is base or bust, I think. I don't want to wait another 5-7 years to get her in Smash. If she's in, echo or not, she's a fully playable character with her own announcer title, victory screens, classic clear video, trophy, and publicity among the general community thanks to memes and fanart. There are so, so many characters that would kill for that. Even getting two Donkey Kong newcomers at all would be huge.

I don't understand the mentality of her not being in the game is actively better than being an echo. I expected this as soon as echo fighters were announced. It comes across as poor sportsmanship to me... but there's nothing to be done about it now. We'll know her fate soon.

A while ago, we were saying why we all support Dixie Kong, and with enough new members since then it won't hurt to bring it back up. So, why do you all want Dixie in?
DKC2 is one of my all time favorite games and one of my first games period, and in both that game and DKC3, I always picked Dixie. She's an iconic female protagonist that has the privilege of never once being captured, and is a main character in two of the best SNES games. Once DK adds her, the series will have all of its core characters, the same way Mario did in Melee with the addition of Peach and Bowser.
 

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Is there any information on the next main DK game Rare was working on before Microsoft bought them? (Not talking about spin offs like Donkey Kong Racing)
 

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I don't understand the mentality of her not being in the game is actively better than being an echo.
I think it's because you wouldn't really feel like your using Dixie if she's just an echo. If she's has a few unique moves, then at least it would represent her decently. But as much as I want to see Dixie as a unique fighter or semi-clone, I'd be fine with an echo for a few reasons.

1. Being in Smash gives characters a lot of popularity(whether they are an echo or not), and it could help Dixie gain bigger roles in future games. I'm not that big of a fan of the Mario spin-offs, but I'd love to see Dixie back in them. And for future Donkey Kong games, she might gain a bigger role or at least not be absent like she was in DKC returns, because of her appearance in Smash.

2. I'd still have fun playing as her even if she was an echo because even though it might not feel like Dixie should, it'd still be cool to finally be able to use her smash. It's much better than using the pink Diddy costume to try and substitute for her.
 
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Dixie's character isn't "big" enough for DLC, that's usually reserved for third party characters or big first party characters that missed the base roster (which would likely be ARMS, Xenoblade 2 reps, a Gen 8 Pokemon, new Fire Emblem character from the upcoming Switch game, etc).
How are we determining who is big enough? Is it sales? Because if it is, the port of TF is right behind Xenoblade (might have surpassed it since the July update) and isn't that far behind Arms and Arms had a whole year start.

And if we count the Wii U version, it has outsold both of them and the best selling Fire Emblem game.
 

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I think it's because you wouldn't really feel like your using Dixie if she's just an echo. If she's has a few unique moves, then at least it would represent her decently. But as much as I want to see Dixie as a unique fighter or semi-clone, I'd be fine with an echo for a few reasons.

1. Being in Smash gives characters a lot of popularity(whether they are an echo or not), and it could help Dixie gain bigger roles in future games. I'm not that big of a fan of the Mario spin-offs, but I'd love to see Dixie back in them. And for future Donkey Kong games, she might gain a bigger role or at least not be absent like she was in DKC returns, because of her appearance in Smash.

2. I'd still have fun playing as her even if she was an echo because even though it might not feel like Dixie should, it'd still be cool to finally be able to use her smash. It's much better than using the pink Diddy costume to try and substitute for her.
I understand being disappointed if she's an echo, but the stance that it's better for her to not be in just seems wrong to me, unless one is okay with waiting until the next Smash to get to play as her (I'm not). The positives outweigh the negatives in my opinion.

How are we determining who is big enough? Is it sales? Because if it is, the port of TF is right behind Xenoblade (might have surpassed it since the July update) and isn't that far behind Arms and Arms had a whole year start.

And if we count the Wii U version, it has outsold both of them and the best selling Fire Emblem game.
Dixie herself isn't "big" in the sense that she's the third-string Kong, not a leading protagonist. I agree that Dixie would probably be passed over for DLC because she was in the same spot with Wii U: a recently released title with her in a role right before the base game was released... and then nothing.
 
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I think it's because you wouldn't really feel like your using Dixie if she's just an echo. If she's has a few unique moves, then at least it would represent her decently. But as much as I want to see Dixie as a unique fighter or semi-clone, I'd be fine with an echo for a few reasons.

1. Being in Smash gives characters a lot of popularity(whether they are an echo or not), and it could help Dixie gain bigger roles in future games. I'm not that big of a fan of the Mario spin-offs, but I'd love to see Dixie back in them. And for future Donkey Kong games, she might gain a bigger role or at least not be absent like she was in DKC returns, because of her appearance in Smash.

2. I'd still have fun playing as her even if she was an echo because even though it might not feel like Dixie should, it'd still be cool to finally be able to use her smash. It's much better than using the pink Diddy costume to try and substitute for her.
I'm sure Sakurai will work his magic to make her feel just like fans are longing for! She feels very identical to Diddy in DKC 2 though. He will have to pull more from Tropical Freeze for her to really shine.
 

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If Dixie isn't in the base game, have fun waiting till 2023-2025 for the next Smash.

Dixie's character isn't "big" enough for DLC, that's usually reserved for third party characters or big first party characters that missed the base roster (which would likely be ARMS, Xenoblade 2 reps, a Gen 8 Pokemon, new Fire Emblem character from the upcoming Switch game, etc).

If we don't get Dixie now, you'll likely be waiting for whenever the next Smash comes out, on the next Nintendo console after Switch, and given there's usually a 4-6 year wait between new Smash releases....that puts us at somewhere around the year 2023-2025.

Yeah...I'm not waiting that long. I'll literally be pushing 40 by then. No thanks.
that's assuming there's not an upcoming DK game though when there probably is one in development
 

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I don't know why she couldn't be DLC. Popularity doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things cause you know Smash fans will buy whoever comes along as long as it has Sakurai's craftsmanship.

I was salty about Corrin's appearance, but I still bought her and had fun with her.
 

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If Dixie isn't in the base game, have fun waiting till 2023-2025 for the next Smash.

Dixie's character isn't "big" enough for DLC, that's usually reserved for third party characters or big first party characters that missed the base roster (which would likely be ARMS, Xenoblade 2 reps, a Gen 8 Pokemon, new Fire Emblem character from the upcoming Switch game, etc).

If we don't get Dixie now, you'll likely be waiting for whenever the next Smash comes out, on the next Nintendo console after Switch, and given there's usually a 4-6 year wait between new Smash releases....that puts us at somewhere around the year 2023-2025.

Yeah...I'm not waiting that long. I'll literally be pushing 40 by then. No thanks.
With this Smash being the biggest ever, to the point where the next will have too much to live up to, I likely won't care about it. This is the zenith of the series, it'll go downhill from here and if Dixie's not in, then it might as well be game over. I'll be in my 30's and likely have no time/interest in support groups, so while it's more critical for me to get her in this game, if she's not I won't be following the next Smash anyway. I'll have a great time with this game whether she's in or not, but I won't be waiting for the next Smash if she isn't.

The fact that Smash 6 won't live up to Ultimate is also why I don't agree with the whole "Echo in this game, individualize her in the next" mentality either. This game has the effort of a Grand Finale being pumped into it. If she's getting in as a Bonus Character, what need is there to change her going forward, let alone keep her since she was an extra anyway?
 

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So it doesn't look like anything happen today... I figured it was too soon.

Edit, I just found out about the earthquake in Japan. I do feel bad for the people who passed away from the earthquake, may they rest in peace.
A while ago, we were saying why we all support Dixie Kong, and with enough new members since then it won't hurt to bring it back up. So, why do you all want Dixie in?
The reason why I want Dixie in Smash because I'm a huge fan of the character ever since I was a teen, Dkc 2 is my favorite SNES game and to have both protagonists together (as well as my favorite video game couple) in Smash would be so heartwarming to see.

Also Ilike to do theme matches and it would more appropriate to actually have her in something like chick fights or a DK themed match as apposed to Diddy in pink(despite my liking for that costume, it's not the real thing) I probably would use her just as much I currently use Diddy and Villager.

She's truly the top priority of my most wanted(the other one I'm hoping for aside from Dixie is Isabelle) and I'll keep on hoping that they'll both make it.
 
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Probably the same reason she wasn't DLC last time... what that reason is would be anybody's guess.
because corrin was the only promotional newcomer, and tropical freeze was over a year old by that point. Assuming they do more characters based around that this time she could easily be one if a new dk game comes out. And if sakurai considers her unique worthy, but doesn't have time to add her to the base game, then she could just be developed as dlc, if she's not an echo this time then I think we can safely assume sakurai wants her to be unique.
 
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The DLC will probably be third party characters, as well as new Nintendo franchises/reps that weren't around in 2015.

It's why ARMS, Xenoblade 2, a Gen 8 Pokemon, the next Fire Emblem main character, are pretty much the most expected DLC picks outside third parties. Obviously there are no Switch debuted characters on the roster yet, because they didn't exist in 2015 and Sakurai wouldn't have considered them back then. A Gen 8 Pokemon and a Fire Emblem character, whether we care or not, would be chosen as easy advertisements. Then a few third parties like we got last time with Ryu/Cloud/Bayonetta, etc.

Let alone if something like Banjo/Kazooie, Geno, etc. are held back till DLC. Dixie is an important character but not the star of her franchise, so she likely wouldn't be a DLC pick. It's base roster or nothing.
 

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I know some people would be upset if Dixie doesn't get revealed for the base roster, but if they decided to add her as DLC and give her a completely unique moveset instead of being a Echo Fighter, I think it would be more worth the wait if you ask me.
Exactly this. I don’t get why people assume it’s an echo for the base or bust. Everyone says only flavor of the month characters can be dlc, but let’s face it, no one knows what will happen for dlc. We could even get some ATs to move up, and heck, they have absolutely no reason to stick with new picks. If you look at smash 4, 5/7 of the additions were from the past (sure some were cut characters, but they were from games that happened a long time ago. Also I’m counting Ryu because we obviously know Sakurai was basing the street fighter content on SF2) The only true newbies in that batch were Corrin and Bayonetta, so why people automatically think all dlc will be new flavor of the month stuff is beyond me.
 

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I think it's because you wouldn't really feel like your using Dixie if she's just an echo. If she's has a few unique moves, then at least it would represent her decently. But as much as I want to see Dixie as a unique fighter or semi-clone, I'd be fine with an echo for a few reasons.

1. Being in Smash gives characters a lot of popularity(whether they are an echo or not), and it could help Dixie gain bigger roles in future games. I'm not that big of a fan of the Mario spin-offs, but I'd love to see Dixie back in them. And for future Donkey Kong games, she might gain a bigger role or at least not be absent like she was in DKC returns, because of her appearance in Smash.

2. I'd still have fun playing as her even if she was an echo because even though it might not feel like Dixie should, it'd still be cool to finally be able to use her smash. It's much better than using the pink Diddy costume to try and substitute for her.
The second part is exactly how I feel, even though I like that color palette I would definitely prefer actually using Dixie instead of a color palette Diddy has and when other characters like Daisy has upgraded from color palette to echo I can see her following the same route

As I mentioned before that I would prefer her to be unique but I fear that might not happen then again who knows what's going to happen, either way I would be grateful she gets in as a playable character.
 
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Is there any information on the next main DK game Rare was working on before Microsoft bought them? (Not talking about spin offs like Donkey Kong Racing)
There is no concrete information about the dk game that was going to be developed, the only thing that was said at e3 when they announced Donkey Kong racing was that they were already planning the game and that it was going to be very big and would be an evolution of dk64.
 

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Yeah, we don't know how a DLC would shake out at all.

Let's keep an open mind and specifically in Dixie HQ, let's not roll over before the fat baby cries.

And let's push for a Dixie that's as unique as possible. If she turns out more derivative, I think everyone here has envisioned it, and we'll address that as we get to it. I still tthink it would be a victory for the character in the long run, even if I would probably be disappointed depending on how it would specifically turn out. But as of right now, let's not settle for it prematurely.
 

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It's unfortunate that Japan got hit with another powerful earthquake. That's the thing with living in the Pacific Ring of Fire, earthquakes and volcanoes can cause a great deal of damage. Good on Nintendo's part to postpone the direct so they could help those who are affected. They'll bounce back like they always do.
 
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Alright let's leave the Echo stuff alone for a bit and focus on something else.

A while ago, we were saying why we all support Dixie Kong, and with enough new members since then it won't hurt to bring it back up. So, why do you all want Dixie in?

DK is my favorite Nintendo series. I love the charm, the platforming and especially the music of the games, and since Smash Bros showcases Nintendo's best I'm always eager to see DK content. Problem is, up til this game DK's been snubbed like it's not a well-known franchise. It's been ignored, and one way to fix this is to have the 4 most active members of the series playable in Smash. I'm attached to Dixie as a character already, and one of my main goals is to properly complete the DK series in Smash Bros.
I want Dixie in because frankly she is LONG overdue for a Smash appearance. If I was in charge of Smash development. Diddy and Rool would've been added in Melee, Dixie in Brawl, Cranky in Wii U, and Funky echo for Ultimate. DKC is a big enough Nintendo franchise around the world to have gotten more content than it's gotten by now. While I'm grateful for K.Rool, Klaptrap assist, and that amazing Gangplank Galleon remix let's be honest we should've had all of those before the 5th game in the series. Especially considering DK was at the HEIGHT of his popularity in the 90's when Smash 64 and Melee were released.

As for Dixie herself she is my favorite Kong behind DK himself. I think she is a cute character that would fit right in with characters like Villager, Duck Hunt, Inkling, Kirby, etc. She has enough moveset potential to be at LEAST a semi-clone. She along with Toad is like the last true classic Nintendo All-Star (though I'd also argue Bandana Dee is getting pretty close to becoming a "modern Nintendo All-Star"). Those are the reasons I want Dixie because it would help right a wronged injustice (DK treatment in Smash). If we get Dixie I will be content with DK characters in Smash my focus will move forward to a non-generic jungle (like idk a MINE CART stage!) stage and more songs other than 600 Jungle Hijinx remixes...I dont want to turn on Smash Ultimate and see "Jungle Hijinx- Dubstep Remix" or something instead of Jib Jig, Scorch N' Torch, Grassland Groove, Crocodile Cacaphony, Mining Melancholy, High Tide Ride, Hot Head Bop, Krook's March, Enchanted Woods, Feathered Fiend, Big Top Bop, Frantic Factory, Hideout Helm, Rockface Rumble, Horn Top Hop, Flight of the Zinger, Blast Mast, and COUNTLESS others.
 
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Hmm you bring up some interesting topics about what makes a character "worthy" of being DLC. It's funny, because the fact is most fans will want to buy all the characters anyways as long as they're at least as reasonably priced as Smash 4's were. This could get real similar to the arguments about who is worthy of Smash in the first place...

Anyway my take is that Dixie is truly the last slot to complete the whole Donkey Kong picture. All others are honestly ancillary. Also, I believe there are ways she could be a satisfying echo (we still haven't seen an echo with one unique move but we have seen Chrom) so I'm leaning more towards base game.
 

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Alright let's leave the Echo stuff alone for a bit and focus on something else.

A while ago, we were saying why we all support Dixie Kong, and with enough new members since then it won't hurt to bring it back up. So, why do you all want Dixie in?

DK is my favorite Nintendo series. I love the charm, the platforming and especially the music of the games, and since Smash Bros showcases Nintendo's best I'm always eager to see DK content. Problem is, up til this game DK's been snubbed like it's not a well-known franchise. It's been ignored, and one way to fix this is to have the 4 most active members of the series playable in Smash. I'm attached to Dixie as a character already, and one of my main goals is to properly complete the DK series in Smash Bros.
Well, could bring this post back for newer folk.





I remember seeing Gameboy Advance shown at the local gaming store, sporting Donkey Kong Country and Mario Kart - Super Circuit as the demo games. This was after being introduced to DK-verse via the animated adaptation broadcasted on a German children's channel in our TV, and was surprised to see it was actually a fully-blown videogame series at heart.


After getting GBA SP as a birthday gift some years later along with Pokemon Sapphire, I'd receive Donkey Kong Country 3 a long time after from a friend as a loaned cartridge- though IDK what happened to him because he never asked it back. In fact, I never saw him much since.

Still, the game ended up being ones I'd play good sum out of curiosity or change of pace from more funner ones I had (below).
Within that game, Dixie was a sweet, yet very capable heroine already within - the game also was pretty deep and challenging back in the day for me. I still have fond summery memories of middle 2000s spend with the game along others like Super Mario Advance 2 & 3, Metroid Zero Mission and Pokemon Emerald + Fire Red. Didn't find all Banana Birds for the final boss though.


To be frank, I didn't think much back on Dixie back then, but as time went a dozen of years and I grew as a gamer, I started to noticed how the game itself grew on me more and more as I went back to it now and then. There were two big reasons being this.

One was that I started to notice how Dixie managed to age immensely well as a videogame heroine of my childhood, long after seeing tons of Nintendo-females kind of blending together, even if most of them were pretty remarkable and charismatic on their own. I shared this same sentiment on many other videogame females out there, though I think with them the sexualization or other patriarchal portrayal were much more common.

Of course adding to this is that Dixie was already a definitive Nintendo-heroine, and probably one of the most authentic kind in the videogame history - sharing two titles where she starred majorly (latter being hers), and generally been used here and there around the 2000s at Mario-spinoffs back in the day on top of DK-series' own. All of them had her keep her characteristic charm and design, which ensured me always loving her as much as I did back in the childhood days.



It's not difficult to explain why I need to mention that last paragraph:






On that end, the Smash-games especially tended to emphasize just how much a strong heroine Dixie was, which was really pleasing for me to read and agree with as I played DKC3 around similar times when I owned Melee:

"More than just Diddy Kong's girlfriend, Dixie Kong is also a fearless adventurer and a reliable team player. She earned her wings helping Diddy rescue Donkey Kong from the clutches of King K. Rool. Dixie's amazingly quick and nimble, and she's even able to twirl her ponytail in order to float slowly through the air."

- Super Smash Bros. Melee


Diddy Kong's cutie of a girlfriend with an adorable blond ponytail. That ponytail is hardly for show—it helps propel her through the air for extended hang time and is indispensable for spin-attacking enemies and lifting barrels. Watch out—Dixie packs more power than you might imagine!

- Super Smash Bros. Brawl

"Diddy Kong's girlfriend. She loves to adventure with him. Her ponytail isn't just for show—she can use it to swim faster, soar in the sky, and even lift barrels! With hair that does all that, you can bet she takes good care of it! "

- Super Smash Bros. 4 Wii U & 3DS


Moving on- the second reason why she grew much on me, was the setting of DKC3, referred as "Northern Kremisphere".

Over the years as I grew older, I came to realize that Northern Kremisphere was surprisingly, VERY similar to the environment I grew up on - I was born on Finland, and still live there in it's capital city Helsinki.

With that, many places I grew in my childhood were usually these built-in towns covered in forests, with occassional lake or river leading to sea in some other areas. I tended to explore such places highly when young - probably why I loved games like Pokemon or Zelda 1 + Link To The Past later.




So with just how many evergreen forests and lake backdrops there were in DKC3, accompanied mills, snowy mountains and more, had me grow immensely close with the game, almost like playing through a fantastic take on my home country - though if to say something, my parents are immigrants, so lil' tidbit about myself.

Interestingly enough, it was kind of confirmed that Northern Kremisphere was made to be inspired by landscapes and environments seen in Canada and Northern Europe - which includes Scandinavian countries. As far as I know where I live, Rareware did an amazing job capturing and then building further on the familiar domains I lived within.






For this reason, Dixie's become highly representative of my gamer self and also representing the very childhood memories + environment I grew up on, while also being one of most iconic Nintendo-heroines still not among the others in Smash Bros today - which is an immense disservice to her if it keeps up by this point.
Though it helps that Smash Bros seems to have certain fondness and consideration to her during the series' run, as she considered actually to Brawl alongside Diddy (didn't make it sadly) the Trophy descriptions, etc.

It's still a long way, but there's been better pickups I never realized to suddenly happen and love more than SSB4 (Richter Belmont), which have tided me in better through this long wait until the release - and along with such big or popular names getting such focus, I feel this truly feels like back to form of what made me fall in love with Smash to begin with - and what's even more, I truly believe possibilities can go anywhere now with what we could get next.

Dixie I'm still wondering if she'd be an Echo in vein of how Daisy's such a "Yellow Peach", but I think it'd be more notable crime to just make her imitate Diddy to the fullest tee.

Nevertheless... I dearly hope she'll join in, now or never - as this clearly looks to be a very last chance to really be part of the series' peak, with it's ultimate line-up of gaming's most biggest, from Nintendo and beyond. If making it, it's no doubt that that she'll not only be completing the core quadret of Donke Kong Country's amazing trilogy, but will also be embellishing that cultural, nostalgic side of me to my memories of Smash forever.

Best wishes to all of us, and most of all, to Dixie's end. May she whirl her way to our vicinity sooner or later...


 

Ultinarok

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Just found this and I'll like to share with you making the wait for news easier. View attachment 162194
Lol you can see the photoshop job pretty easily, but hilarious nonetheless.

I feel bad for the Isaac supporters though (of which I'm one). Their character may have been revealed today and now a reveal featuring him will be seen in bad taste for at least a short while. His trailer could be neutered, his reveal re-scheduled, or the overall impact of his inclusion diminished because of this disaster.

Of course the disaster itself is the worst part by far. It just sucks because now they feel like they can't speculate without it being in poor taste.
 

SeashoreWar

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I feel bad for the Isaac supporters though (of which I'm one). Their character may have been revealed today and now a reveal featuring him will be seen in bad taste for at least a short while.
Was there a leak saying Isaac would be revealed in this direct?
 

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Was there a leak saying Isaac would be revealed in this direct?
No but people could not find in their heart of hearts to stop speculating about his reveal video for one day and now it is the collective theory of some that Isaac ruined their day by being related to earthquakes.

I feel strongly about this.
 

Ultinarok

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Was there a leak saying Isaac would be revealed in this direct?
Nah but its more of the "what if". If he had been planned for today, he may be put off for some time due to sensitivity issues, leaving them in limbo longer than they already have been. And now they all feel guilty speculating about this prospect out of fear that they're downplaying the disaster and making it about Smash. Quite a conundrum.

Basically, it sucks rooting for a character to be in this Direct who's main power is earthquakes and earth-shaking abilities. We can all mourn and send our condolences, but none of us get to feel like jerks about continuing character discussion like they do. Also the behavior of some people in light of these events has made it all worse.
 
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With this Smash being the biggest ever, to the point where the next will have too much to live up to, I likely won't care about it. This is the zenith of the series, it'll go downhill from here and if Dixie's not in, then it might as well be game over. I'll be in my 30's and likely have no time/interest in support groups, so while it's more critical for me to get her in this game, if she's not I won't be following the next Smash anyway. I'll have a great time with this game whether she's in or not, but I won't be waiting for the next Smash if she isn't.

The fact that Smash 6 won't live up to Ultimate is also why I don't agree with the whole "Echo in this game, individualize her in the next" mentality either. This game has the effort of a Grand Finale being pumped into it. If she's getting in as a Bonus Character, what need is there to change her going forward, let alone keep her since she was an extra anyway?
So I'm gonna be honest, I find this kind of rhetoric, for lack of a better word, odd. Specifically the bit about being in your 30s and not waiting for her in the next game. First of all there is no expiration date on enjoying something. You might not enjoy it anymore in your 30s, maybe you will, maybe you won't have time. Who knows? But I don't know why you would essentially plan around not being interested in something, because who knows where you'll be or what will interest you by then anyway? There's certainly no such thing as being too old to enjoy gaming (or whatever other hobby you might enjoy). Enjoy what you enjoy and cherish it in the moment.

But also in that vein, Ultimate isn't even out yet and we're claiming the next game can't possibly live up? How can we possibly know that? I feel like you've gotten an idea in your head about what the game is and what it represents to you and that has become muddled with the reality. I'm getting the sense that no matter how good Ultimate is it likely won't live up to your expectations. And besides, even if it does, why would you assume the next game can't match it? We'll find out when it releases, but it seems odd to make claims about it now. And frankly I don't know why we would even be thinking about the next game now when Ultimate isn't even out yet.

But let's say you're right and you won't have time or be invested when the next game comes around. Why worry about it then? If you aren't invested you can't possibly be disappointed. So I guess I don't really see how the stakes change.
 

cybersai

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Some of us original Nintendo fans are pretty old now, I'm 32 years old. When Melee came out I was only 16.

I've literally been waiting half my life for Ridley, K. Rool, Dixie, etc. to be in Smash. Since only one Smash comes out per console we have to wait another 5 or so years for the next one, I'll be pushing 40 by then.

Yes, most of us aren't young teenagers anymore, and some of us aren't even in our 20's anymore. I am 32, I don't have much "time" left, I doubt I'll be as interested in games by the time I'm closing in on 40.

God we're all so old now, it's ridiculous. If I could go back in time to tell my young 13 year old self the future of Smash, my head would have exploded.
 

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I can totally relate to that, I'm actually 32 myself. :grin:
If someone had told me back then we would have a Smash Bros game with 80 characters...
 

Parallel_Falchion

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Hey, so, for anyone who even still remembers what I posted in here 12 hours ago, I know I got heated and maybe a little too aggressive. I really just can't stand coming in here and constantly seeing not only expectations, but support for Dixie as an echo fighter. It hurts. So I'm just not going to visit this thread at all anymore until Dixie's fate is known, one way or the other. See you all on the other side.
 
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