Dixie Kong's Barrel Of Support Spirits. Farewell Everyone, Thank You ALL For Making This Thread An Excellent Place For DK Fans!

[Maxoxpower]

Yes, we saw it. I made a twitter, tweeted Source Gaming and showed them my moveset and this thread.

Ho well.
can...i see your moveset?

 

[Spatman]

Yes, we saw it. I made a twitter, tweeted Source Gaming and showed them my moveset and this thread.

Could you repost your reply tweet to that video?

 

[Ultinarok]

Yes, we saw it. I made a twitter, tweeted Source Gaming and showed them my moveset and this thread.

Your moveset was included in the video. Such a damn good job you did on it I swear.

It's just a shame that he wrote it off just because of his personal expectations and the trends that he personally sees in character design. Despite the fact that he's not Sakurai and is only theory crafting like the rest of us.

I respect his opinion, but still maintain that there are no rules but the ones Sakurai decides on. If he wants to make a semi-clone who's very different from the original character but shares certain key aspects of their chassis or moveset, and call said character an Echo Fighter, he will.

Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it can't. I don't believe a character needs to be either built from the ground up OR a mirror image, with nothing in between. Semi-clone existing has just as much precedent as pure clones. Whether or not they count as "Echo Fighters" is up to Sakurai. NOT US.

I emphasize that again. WE DO NOT DECIDE WHAT AN ECHO ACTUALLY IS BY DEFINITION. We only know that they are based on another fighter. That's it. How much basis they have in their source character is subject to change if that's what Sakurai wants. But there doesn't need to be such a dichotomy in speculation like there is.

Dixie gets this the worst because she's physically similar to another fighter but is also a unique character that has more to draw from than most other Echoes. So now everyone assumes she either has to be an echo, or has to be a total game-changer. She can't be somewhere in the middle, even though others have been before.

And before people start bringing up things like Dr Mario or Young Link: we still don't know how different they are this time around. Doc already played pretty different from Mario in Smash 4, much more than Marth and Lucina or Pit and Dark Pit. So the basis for Echoes is still ambiguous. And even if it wasn't, it's not like she can't get in as a semi-clone anyway. Historically Luigi, Wolf and Lucas already did.

The moment everyone can stop thinking this is the moment we will finally find peace in this debate.

Edit: Only the first part is directed towards you BirthNote, the rest is for the public. I know that you're generally on my side with this stuff.

 

[BirthNote]

Ho well.
can...i see your moveset?

It's in the OP but I made a Google Doc a week back:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K8uiriHDYL4gi51Glbk9LXu9M3UQJcDXDyUImB4umio/edit

Could you repost your reply tweet to that video?

https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewJCay1/status/1020722211009724416

Your moveset was included in the video. Such a damn good job you did on it I swear.

It's just a shame that he wrote it off just because of his personal expectations and the trends that he personally sees in character design. Despite the fact that he's not Sakurai and is only theory crafting like the rest of us.

Thank you, but the guy actually showed VeemonTamer's moveset and then brushed it off, which is why I went "Okay, if that didn't impress him I'll show off mine"

 

[Ultinarok]

It's in the OP but I made a Google Doc a week back:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K8uiriHDYL4gi51Glbk9LXu9M3UQJcDXDyUImB4umio/edit


https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewJCay1/status/1020722211009724416


Thank you, but the guy actually showed VeemonTamer's moveset and then brushed it off, which is why I went "Okay, if that didn't impress him I'll show off mine"

Oops I got the two mixed up for a second, sorry. I know both of you had illustrated sets.

 

[Maxoxpower]

It's in the OP but I made a Google Doc a week back:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K8uiriHDYL4gi51Glbk9LXu9M3UQJcDXDyUImB4umio/edit


https://mobile.twitter.com/AndrewJCay1/status/1020722211009724416


Thank you, but the guy actually showed VeemonTamer's moveset and then brushed it off, which is why I went "Okay, if that didn't impress him I'll show off mine"

ok send it to sakurai...never too late its awesome

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I think that yet another reason to support Dixie, as meagre as it is, is to add some diversity in terms of non-human female fighters.

I mean, think about it for a second. All the female fighters we have so far are human (at least in appearance in some cases, like with Zelda), with the possible exception of Jigglypuff. It's only recently that we got a female alt for Pikachu, and even so Pokémon is big enough that one could qualify this a "safe" move.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

I think that yet another reason to support Dixie, as meagre as it is, is to add some diversity in terms of non-human female fighters.

I mean, think about it for a second. All the female fighters we have so far are human (at least in appearance in some cases, like with Zelda), with the possible exception of Jigglypuff. It's only recently that we got a female alt for Pikachu, and even so Pokémon is big enough that one could qualify this a "safe" move.

HEY! We also have Pikachu Libre... Oh and Inkling girls since their technically squids...

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

HEY! We also have Pikachu Libre... Oh and Inkling girls since their technically squids...

Oh, yeah, forgot about Inkling, heh. I did indirectly mention Pikacu Libre though.

But yeah, even so it's still a pretty low amount. Doesn't help that Krystal became an AT.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

Oh, yeah, forgot about Inkling, heh. I did indirectly mention Pikacu Libre though.

But yeah, even so it's still a pretty low amount. Doesn't help that Krystal became an AT.

Yeah I know behind K.Rool and Dixie, Krystal was my most wanted #3. Though if I'm being honest I'm just happy she is in the game at all outside of a trophy or an Easter egg codec/message.

 

[ZeroJanitor]

HEY! We also have Pikachu Libre... Oh and Inkling girls since their technically squids...

dont forget wendy

 

[SimonferSmash]

Count me in as one for Diddy's female compadre ever since the first capture of the main ape, even if she is just a fusion echo!

Speaking of both, I can easily imagine her and Diddy's final smashes now utilizing any or all the animal buddies since they are long overdue for an official appearance outside of collectibles!

Rambi or Squitter would satisfy me one way or the other!

 

[Spatman]

I hope Vergeben is totally wrong and nobody of the other characters he "leaked" will be in

 

[paperosbronzo90]

I hope Vergeben is totally wrong and nobody of the other characters he "leaked" will be in

Who are the other characters?

 

[Spatman]

Who are the other characters?

I read Ken, Isabelle and Incineroar, plus the hinting to other two namco-bandai guests (and maybe a square enix one)

But Vergeben writes only on Gamefaqs, and there were fake "Vergeben" in 4chan and so on. Maybe some of these characters have been said by the fake vergeben

 

[SilentSentinel]

The bandai namco characters were not said by him, that was a shopped quote. The rest were said by him.

 

[Spatman]

The babdai namco characters were not said by him, that was a shopped quote. The rest were said by him.

Aside Ken, I actively dislike all other characters haha
(And I'm just neutral toward Ken... I'd rather prefer a lot Akuma)

But the real problem is: if all these characters were true, Dixie's chances get much lower, I guess

 

[paperosbronzo90]

Isabelle would be fun, but I don't like the others very much.
2 other namco bandai guests? Hope it's fake.
...in my opinion we already have enough 3rd party characters.

 

[Maxoxpower]

Isabelle would be fun, but I don't like the others very much.
2 other namco bandai guests? Hope it's fake.
...in my opinion we already have enough 3rd party characters.

i just dont understand the appeal for Isabelle... for me KEN is the ony interesting one.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

I think that yet another reason to support Dixie, as meagre as it is, is to add some diversity in terms of non-human female fighters.

I mean, think about it for a second. All the female fighters we have so far are human (at least in appearance in some cases, like with Zelda), with the possible exception of Jigglypuff. It's only recently that we got a female alt for Pikachu, and even so Pokémon is big enough that one could qualify this a "safe" move.

Isabelle would also be nice in that regard, they would make for a really nice visual contrast from the rest of the female characters

 

[BirthNote]

Another wall of replies inbound! But first, here's the newest wave of Support Buddies:
SenSx
Dastardly Ridleylash
Fane
S SimonferSmash

Welcome to all! I just wanna say sorry to SenSx though; I kept forgetting to add you because I thought I did the first time, but your name wasn't there.

Here's somethin' interesting for us to chew on:

https://sourcegaming.info/2018/08/2...smash-direct-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-561/



Nothing too new from what we had suspected up to this point - but I believe Dixie would have made a notable presence to the devs in the Ballot. How popular was she back in those days around here or other sites?

Yea this is surprising but VERY encouraging! Usually Smash focuses on an era of releases to go by for each game and adds popular picks to supplement it, but it looks like the reverse is true this time. Right now, Inklings are the only Relevant picks with the rest being fanservice, which is reassuring for Dixie because she's got solid popularity and she's from the targeted era.

It makes sense to focus on all-time requests over Relevant picks for this Smash, since the Wii U failed and therefore not many notable games, but Dixie's got both factors working for her. As for her popularity during the ballot, it was always solid, but she was often in K. Rool's shadow.

Just an idea. How about if Dixie Kong could carry fighters and large items around as easily as Donkey Kong. Have her pick them up with her hair and let her move around easily.

Yea, a few of us had that going for her in our movesets, such as Me, VeemonTamer, Bowserlick and most likely Delzethin. If you ever wanna cook up a moveset feel free to share.

to be fair, funky also resembled dk a lot back then.

He definitely did! In fact I'd say he still does, but I give him a pass cuz ever since the first DKC, I thought he was the coolest Kong ever. His amazing music in DKC1&2 plus being the source of Diddy's popguns made me see him as this really cool, diverse, badass kong who happens to look like DK with clothes LOL.

In my post, that starts this topic, there is my idea: not an accusation or bad feelings toward k rool supporters, but just the realization that the two communities could have done a joint campaign. Of course K Rool would have got much more votes the same, but Dixie would have got much more than the votes she actually got. Because we could have said something like: "ok guys, all coordinated: every day everyone of us vote in the ballot, that person should cast at least 2 votes for K Rool and at least one for Dixie". (More for K Rool because it was clear since the start that K Rool was much more wanted and requested).
And so, in the same campaign for k rool (with all the drawings, video, memes and viral things) there would have been place for Dixie too (and so her name would have spreaded more among all people like k rool did)

I know it's useless talking now, with all things done and finished, it's just a thought, an understanding, I had just in these days.
We Dixie supporters should have asked you k rool supporters your help since the beginning.
We did a mistake not doing it, I believe

Hindsight's 20/20, but yea there could've been more cooperation. The venom died down not long before Smash 4 ended, which would've helped a lot, but a good portion of people were afraid that if DK ever got someone new, it'd be one character only. There are many, but one reason why K. Rool was being pushed harder than Dixie was because a lot of people were writing Dixie off as a clone; some genuinely didn't know what she could do and others were trying to make sure the kroc had little competition. So for me, my biggest goal was to show what a 5-limbed fighter could do and win people over that way. I know other users were making a case for Dixie to be in, myself included, but I was trying to sell her not simply as another Kong but as a fighter that has something the other Smash Brothers don't. I took the route of addressing her criticisms in order to make her a character people wanted to play as potentially.

Now that Metroid has been mentoined... Ridley was revealed before Dark Samus as well. Here's hoping there's a pattern. This does imply we might not get a unique Fire Emblem character however... a thing I think most od the community can live with.

Honestly, I think Corrin is Ultimate's FE (Unique) newcomer. If she wasn't DLC in SSB4 she would've been announced in this game.

Dark Samus also should've been unique, because while she works as an Echo, she's actually very different from Samus. Just look at her Assist Trophy in 4; it has totally different moves.

All Echo Fighters should be their own characters with unique movesets, but it comes down to practicality. "Is this character popular and unique enough to warrant designing it from the ground up?" I honestly didn't believe Dark Samus would've been in the game at all if it weren't for Samus losing her Dark Samus alt color. Just not popular or relevant enough to warrant so much attention right now. Years ago, maybe, but Metroid Prime 3 turns 11 years old in a week. It's long past the point of when it would've been "prime time" for Dark Samus, so the fact that it's happening now is still a mystery.

Dark Samus surprised me because she had a Unique AT. If she got in, I thought she'd have the Little Mac treatment, since he plays like his AT did in Brawl but with extra moves; that led me to believe that most AT fighters are "unfinished" movesets that have a shot of making it in the next game, and their current form is some prototype. I was wrong in that regard, but something that Dixie has over Dark Samus in addition to popularity is relevance. Dark Samus is Gamecube and Wii era, so her best shot was in Brawl and SSB4. Since she's eradicated in Prime 3 and Metroid's focus is Other M in SSB4, Dark Samus becomes a distant memory in both release and series timeline by 2018; Samus has gone on many adventures post-Dark Samus and dealt with Ridley more, and with Prime 3 being 11 years old now, Dark Samus has her place as an arc villain in the Metroid series.

Dixie on another hand has made a main-entry return, is the most popular Kong of Tropical Freeze and has the relevance angle going for her thanks to a re-release and SSBU highlighting Wii U/3DS era content, in addition to being popular since her debut a while back. I'd say her starpower is brighter than Dark Samus's, and she has a bigger presence in her series than the metroid mutant too.

Sakurai's comments on echo characters sort of boosted Dixie's chances of being an echo. Sakurai mentioned that echo's aren't just copy and paste characters, but they take 1/4 of the time it takes to make one character because they need to make modifications to their moveset, victory poses, and all the essentials that are needed to correlate with the character.

I wanna point out that Sakurai wrote the column before the Direct and our reactions, so my assumption is that he's preemptively knocking down any "Echoes are worthless and lazy!" thoughts before they sprout. Turns out he didn't have to, since all the reveals in that Direct were well-received, but hindsight's 20/20. He was probably covering his bases.

Nothing against the echo fighters who we currently have, but I do believe that Dixie is popular enough, can be unique, and is more important to Nintendo than the other echoes. I think Sakurai heard the complaints about the amount of Fire Emblem characters, so I doubt Chrom was gonna be unique. I don't know too much about Dark Samus, but isn't "she" already kind of a clone(not in smash bros. terms) of Samus? So while she could have some unique moves, it makes sense why she'd be an echo. Richter already has some of his own moves in the game, and Sakurai said "it's hard to tell who's echoing who" with him and Simon. I think he was represented well. There weren't very many requests for Richter anyway, and I think he works well as an echo. Daisy really doesn't have any source material to pull moves from, and part of her character is the fact she's a princess who isn't Peach. You could create a unique moveset for anybody if you really wanted to, but Daisy really didn't have much going for her imo. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Lucina spends a decent amount of her game pretending to be Marth or something like that, so it makes sense that she'd have a similar fighting style. And Dark Pit is Pit's dopple-ganger, so it makes sense for him to echo Pit. Once again, I'll say that I have nothing against these characters, and I'm sure you could make a unique moveset for them if you wanted to, but they aren't as popular and don't have the history that Dixie does. Also, some of these characters I mentioned are "trying" to replicate the character they echo in their own games. Dixie isn't. Yes, she looks similar to Diddy, but her defining trait has always been her hair, and Diddy doesn't have that. I understand that an echo is probable, but I really don't think she should be.

Edit: If you see some of my information is incorrect, I apologize, and feel free to correct me.

I agree. In Chrom's case, Lucina and Robin stole his thunder, Simon is a lot more popular than Richter, Daisy has been presented as "Yellow Peach with spunk" and Dark Samus is an arc villain with no influence outside of her subseries. I was a big fan of the Prime games as a kid, and Dark Samus fascinated me, but yes, she is a genetic clone of Samus fused with the remains of Metroid Prime and Phazon (an alien substance that's like a living, intelligent, parasitic drug). I like some of them, but they don't have much importance in their series.

Spoiler: Replies to Dixie Kong

So people at DKVine forums are saying that Nintendo is reintroducing the Donkey Kong series this year with the Rabbids DLC, the DKTF port, and potentially a new game next year. So perhaps that bodes well for Dixie's chances! (and more dlc character chances)

Yea, it started with Mario Odyssey. Nintendo seems to be priming us for new DK content by giving him more focus in other games, and I love it.

I wonder how far Sakurai got onto Dixie's character model/moveset back in Brawl, if he did enough work on her moveset hopefully that would mean less time taken to work on her.

I REALLY hope this is the case. That'd make including her so much easier, and I'd love to see what his team could cook up for a Dixie moveset.

So I was in the mood and decided to draw Dixie. Please excuse the sketchiness

Nice! I'll put it in the OP, and the sketchiness gives it character!

One idea I had for Dixie was that she doesn't use banana peels for her down-B but orange grenades instead that bounce three times before exploding. With her hair copter as a recovery and that grenade move and using her hair as grabs, that's enough to make her different from Diddy. I think she could be slower or lighter, but only in speed.

I would LOVE to see the Orange Grenades back! I definitely think she should be slower and stronger overall thanks to her hair, and maybe a tad heavier. Hair can get heavy, so that'd be nice to apply to Dixie but it wouldn't exactly affect her fallspeed. For some reason, Diddy falls faster than DK in SSB4 despite being lighter than him, so mybe something like that can be applied to Dixie as well.

I really liked your guys responses. They're honest, and not downright damning to Sakurai. I support Dixie Kong. I just had to make sure all of you guys were cool though.

Thank you. I can't really be mad at Sakurai for this game. He's busting his a** and making sure he can put everything he possibly can into this game by going beyond (Plus Ultra) the extra mile, and I'm getting surprised constantly. His team is really doing the best they can, and I appreciate that. I'm holding out hope for my girl Dixie, but the worst case scenario is that I'll be playing as 3 DK characters while the 4th I'll just ignore. I'm really hyped for this game; SSBU and God of War were the only games I needed this year.

Here's some ideas of reskinned moves Dixie could borrow from veterans if she ends up as an echo:
- Most of her moveset is based from 's with some derivations here and there, like the peanut popgun replaced by her bubblegum from TF which slows down her opponents once fully charged.
- Her up-b, as I suggested earlier, is a reskin of /'s, when once initiated, Dixie rotates about herself before slowly falling back to the ground by still rotating her ponytail.
- Her double jump is 's but reskinned, reaching the same height but with a different animation.
- Her dash attack could be 's, spinning around with her ponytail.
- Her f-tilt would be a shorter version of 's.
- Her up-tilt is a reskin of , with the tongue replaced by her ponytail.

Honestly, at that point she's not an Echo; she's a fusion of various characters with enough animations to justify her being in her own category.

Spoiler: Replies to Ultinarok

Controversial opinion here, but I've always held a similar view of the DK crew that I've held with Sonic and friends. The originals are cool. A new addition here or there keeps things fresh. Padding out the roster excessively starts to tarnish the series' identity a bit and makes the classic characters play less of a role, which is not cool.

Sonic was cool when he had Tails and Knuckles. Shadow was iffy but acceptable. But Jet? Silver? Espio? Rouge? Cream? Blaze? It started to get out of hand. DK64 really did the same thing in my eyes, padding out the roster with THREE kongs that no one really asked for, while Dixie disappeared. I wasn't a fan. Although the three new kongs are certainly better than Sonic's ever-growing stable of animal heroes, the principle remains the same.

Of course, I don't mind new characters, but sometimes it's better to keep it simple. Tropical Freeze figured that out and realized that the best action is to bring back the classics rather than make three random new heroes materialize out of thin air. And I applaud that choice.

I agree. I like most of the Kongs, but it was running the risk of going overboard. Swanky, Candy and Kiddy are the ones I dislike, with Redneck/Bumpkin Kong also being on the list if he ever debuts (also Bluster and Eddie), but most of the other Kongs are fine. If they show up occasionally I won't complain, but I think there should be a focus on the Tropical Freeze Kongs, and introduce non-Kong new characters.

Actually the Pikmin thing was for balance. Having six Pikmin was borderline broken in Brawl because of Pikmin Toss stacking damage stupid fast. The Pikmin being random also reduced the character's consistency. So they gave the Pikmin an order, then reduced the amount to make them easier to manage and nerf Pikmin Toss.

But you're right about Ice Climbers.

Oh and I'll participate in that poll too.

Ah I didn't know that about Olimar. It makes sense too, thanks for LMK.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

I read Ken, Isabelle and Incineroar, plus the hinting to other two namco-bandai guests (and maybe a square enix one)

But Vergeben writes only on Gamefaqs, and there were fake "Vergeben" in 4chan and so on. Maybe some of these characters have been said by the fake vergeben

I actually wouldn't mind any of those tbh I wouldn't be that hyped for any of them tbh but I wouldn't be upset EXCEPT 2 namco-bandai characters. Tired of 3rd parties in Smash. Let me guess Heihachi and Lloyd Irving are the two new namco bandai reps? Lame... I just want more 1st party characters.

 

[ZeroJanitor]

honestly dont care who gets in if dixie's there. i'll gladly fight goku if i can do it with her.

 

[SeashoreWar]

Nice! I'll put it in the OP, and the sketchiness gives it character!

Thanks!

 

[DeltaSceptile]

I was gone for two days and the thread has grown by a whole 6 pages! It’s kinda hard to keep up, what did I miss?

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

I was gone for two days and the thread has grown by a whole 6 pages! It’s kinda hard to keep up, what did I miss?

Dixie was CONFIRMED.....


....to still be in all of our hearts...

 

[DeltaSceptile]

Dixie was CONFIRMED.....


....to still be in all of our hearts...

Yeah, I knew that already. But has there been any interesting new discussion?

 

[Dixie Kong]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

Nah, she does have a support thread.

Spoiler

That said, she would get more traction if Retro decided to have her become playable and attack enemies by launching melons at them. Though I prefer Tiny anyways.

Yeah, I knew that already. But has there been any interesting new discussion?

Nothing much, mostly a passionate tug of war between unique and Echo defenders.

 

[Ghostwolf35]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

I don't like Candy Kong's design at all. She's like a weird combination of a human and an ape(Steve Mayles, her creator, even said that himself).

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

Candy Kong makes me uncomfortable, whoever decided that an ape needed ******* should be fired. And why is it that Candy and Tiny are the only completely humanoid kongs? it's so strange. Dixie and Wrinkly aren't, the other kongs aren't, so why them?

I will say though that I commend rare for not making her a damsel in distress when she could've easily been one.

Honestly I'd really love to have retro bring her back and make her design less trashy.

 

[CannonStreak]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

I don't mind her. I think she is underrated, actually.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

I hate her DKC design, like her DK64 design more. think her paon design is the best one out of the 3 but overall I think the character is "ehh okay". I was big AVID for more kongs/characters to be re-introduced in Retro's DKC games since Returns (we got Funky and Dixie back in TF) but I was never upset by the lack of Candy like I was when Dixie, Wrinkly, Funky, and any of the other animal buddies besides Rambi and Squawks, and of course K.Rool and the Kremlings were missing from the Returns.

 

[Ghostwolf35]

Candy Kong makes me uncomfortable, whoever decided that an ape needed ******* should be fired. And why is it that Candy and Tiny are the only completely humanoid kongs? it's so strange. Dixie and Wrinkly aren't, the other kongs aren't, so why them?

I will say though that I commend rare for not making her a damsel in distress when she could've easily been one.

Honestly I'd really love to have retro bring her back and make her design less trashy.

I do think it's funny that the same person who created Candy Kong also created Dixie, K. Rool, Banjo and Kazooie and more, so a lot of his characters are really well-made.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

I do think it's funny that the same person who created Candy Kong also created Dixie, K. Rool, Banjo and Kazzoie and more, so a lot of his characters are really well-made.

It's so weird lol, the girl sticks out like a sore thumb

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I will say though that I commend rare for not making her a damsel in distress when she could've easily been one.

I always get the impression that Rare simply doesn't care much about damsels in distress, as if execs demanded that their games needed some to sell. Consider how the ones in their earlier games tended to never get used again after their initial appearances, Tooty in Banjo-Kazooie is pretty much a plot device that got immediately discarded come Tooie and became the butt of jokes from lack of appearances, and they actually had the male heroes that can defend themselves be kidnapped from time to time (e.g. the Battletoads). Any heroines they have that do end up getting kidnapped don't stay that way for very long (e.g. Tiny), and still kick butt with the best of them. Hell, Dixie and DK & Diddy in DKC3 are a complete gender role reversal, and it's more interesting for it.

It's so weird lol, the girl sticks out like a sore thumb

Regardless of anything, I think we can agree that her DKC1 design is too overly feminine, glad they changed that.

 

[Aeon Lupin]

I could've sworn I put myself as a supporter for Dixie, but if not, just want to lend it all the same. As far as I'm concerned, Dixie is long overdue. Even moreso than K. Rool in some respects. If it were up to me, I'd introduce her as early as Melee. She debuted in one of the greatest side scrollers ever, and is playable in it and its sequel. She's also the only main Kong to NEVER be captured by K. Rool. Imo, she's Nintendo's premiere heroine next to Samus, and hasn't received her due. And before anyone ask, no, I do not want her as an echo. To me, that would do her an extreme disservice, as she and Diddy complimented eachother through their unique traits in DKC2. It'd do her and the Donkey Kong Country series a huge disservice. Semi clone is the least I'll accept.

 

[Machete]

Dixie is like the last Nintendo All-Star I'm missing in Ultimate. Always favored K.Rool, but I always felt like Dixie should've been in Smash anyways. In a perfect world she'd be her own unique character, but I'd be okay with her being an echo with a few moves and animations changed like Chrom and Dark Samus. Would still much prefer her as a unique character as she deserves tho. Always play as her in all Donkey Kong Country games I can.

Really hope she gets in! I do believe she is extremely likely, and I will support her if needs be for DLC. Everyone knows Donkey Kong has four major characters and they all should be in.

 

[Ultinarok]

Also, speaking of female Donkey Kong characters, am I the only one who likes Candy Kong?

I never much cared for her. She always felt like an obligatory love interest character who was never given much of an identity outside of being....uhhh...an anthropomorphic ape with boobs. I mean what else does she really do? With such a large number of Kongs, Candy had always felt the most unneeded, along with Swanky.

 

[Dixie Kong]

I never much cared for her. She always felt like an obligatory love interest character who was never given much of an identity outside of being....uhhh...an anthropomorphic ape with boobs. I mean what else does she really do? With such a large number of Kongs, Candy had always felt the most unneeded, along with Swanky.

I like Swanky too haha. Silly me.
C’mon Dixie, you better be in the next reveal!