Dixie Kong's Barrel Of Support Spirits. Farewell Everyone, Thank You ALL For Making This Thread An Excellent Place For DK Fans!

[MoonlitIllusion]

Yes, but this is likely the result of the moves being split in two. Think Captain Falcon. He used to do Punch-punch-knee-punch combo. Now he can do punch-punch-knee and then STOP which is good because it has knock back, or punch-punch-punch combo-finisher. The same could have very well happened to Diddy. Whether the gentleman hit looks different or not is irrelevant, the main thing is:

Just because the move no longer forces Diddy to tail attack because it doesnt launch doesn't mean the tail attack no longer exists. Does that make sense?

Regardless of the true answer to this debate, the jab finisher is incredibly anecdotal evidence and basically totally meaningless in terms of Dixie anyway. It's just a loose hypothesis for her being an echo.

This debate is ultimately pointless though, they're not gonna change diddy for the sake of a dixie echo since echoes can have different moves anyway now so whether the move is gone or not really doesn't change anything

 

[Ultinarok]

This debate is ultimately pointless though, they're not gonna change diddy for the sake of a dixie echo since echoes can have different moves anyway now so whether the move is gone or not really doesn't change anything

I fully agree, but everyone keeps claiming it to be evidence when it's really very artribrary. The disappearance of Diddy's Dixie skin? Good evidence. Suspicious lack of Tropical Freeze content? Worth a suspicious note. Diddy possibly having his jab split into two moves to make it more useful? Says virtually nothing about Dixie, only that they wanted Diddy's jab to not suck.

I appreciate everyone excitedly looking for clues, but those types of clues are just little things being thought on way too much. Like the Ridley shadow. I mean, even the lack of Robin's Final Smash being a clue made more sense because showing it would've directly deconfirmed Chrom, but it didn't happen. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, because we don't know for sure, only that this is very little to go on.

 

[VeemonTamer]

Voted. Did this fanpage find a way to segregate IPs to avoid multiple votes like to official ballot did? Otherwise the data is going to be horribly skewed and probably not even worth looking at. One person with too much time on their hands could vote Shrek 300 times.

Otherwise I like this idea. Polls like this aren't officially authorized but they can give Sakurai some ideas as to what his fans want, assuming he sees them. Of course this is assuming Dixie isn't already in.

I've thought of a fun game we can do to veer away from Echo fighter controversy. We should all think of a gif or a picture of some kind that we enjoy that represents our excitement and hang on to it until Dixie gets revealed. Then when (staying positive) she drops, we all come here and post them.

It'll make for an entertaining spectacle for both her supporters on here and those who drop in to congratulate us, many of whom may be mourning another character. I think the positive vibes would be nice for all, and I'd also be excited to see what everyone puts up. For added effect, posting a picture of her official render alongside the image could make it even better. I have a couple old favorites in mind myself.

It's tied to your google account so people voting on phones (I speak of Android devices) can only vote once because that's the account tied to the phone etc. Computers are the same way most people only have one main email account they use. Even if you have multiple emails I think Google makes you go through a verification process. You would really have to go hella out of your way to spam something that uses google docs in this way. I wouldn't put it past some folks tho.

 

[Bodacious66]

Yes, but this is likely the result of the moves being split in two. Think Captain Falcon. He used to do Punch-punch-knee-punch combo. Now he can do punch-punch-knee and then STOP which is good because it has knock back, or punch-punch-punch combo-finisher. The same could have very well happened to Diddy. Whether the gentleman hit looks different or not is irrelevant, the main thing is:

Just because the move no longer forces Diddy to tail attack because it doesnt launch doesn't mean the tail attack no longer exists. Does that make sense?

Regardless of the true answer to this debate, the jab finisher is incredibly anecdotal evidence and basically totally meaningless in terms of Dixie anyway. It's just a loose hypothesis for her being an echo.

I'm not saying this is evidence for a Dixie echo, I only bring it up because people act as though Diddy has always had the jab combo he has in ultimate, which is wrong.

They gave Diddy a new jab finisher in ultimate, whether or not he has a rapid jab using his tail (or any other move using his tail) is completely unknown at this point.

 

[NintenRob]

After seeing Chrom and Dark Samus, I don't think it really matters much if Diddy uses his tail or not. Dixie would still likely be an Echo using her hair if needed (and a completely separate up special)

 

[Ultinarok]

Ok so at one point everyone on here was debating Dixie's overall popularity. Someone went around and accrued the cumulative poll results of multiple fan polls and ballots that were released prior to Smash Ultimate's reveal. The data is anecdotal, possibly inconsistent and is by no one means completely representative of the smash pantheon as a whole. But it's a more definitive ranking system than anything besides the Smash 4 ballot itself.

Take it with a grain of salt but the results were:

1. K Rool
2. Isaac
3. Banjo-Kazooie
4. Wolf
5. Snake
6. Inkling
7. Bandana Dee
8. Shovel Knight
9. Paper Mario
10. Bayonetta
11. Shantae
12. Ice Climbers
13. Geno
14. Krystal
15. Ridley
16. Waluigi
17. Magalor
18. Dixie Kong

Out of those on this list, K Rool, Bayonetta, Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake, Ridley and Inkling are all now playable. Waluigi, Shovel Knight and Krystal are all Assist Trophies.

This leaves Isaac, Banjo, Bandana Dee, Paper Mario, Shantae, Geno and Magalor ahead of Dixie, putting her at number 8.

Not sure when all of this data was taken exactly, nor can I give you a list of sources. It's just something being discussed on the Isaac thread. It's worth noting that his Japan results were dubious at bestdue to how he acquired data for them, so this list is Western biased.

What do all think? Again, take it with a grain of salt. I believe Magalor was the result of that untrustworthy Japanese data, so realistically she's probably ahead of him.

 

[pepiux]

After seeing Chrom and Dark Samus, I don't think it really matters much if Diddy uses his tail or not. Dixie would still likely be an Echo using her hair if needed (and a completely separate up special)

I'm not sure. None of the echoes so far have deviated from their counterparts, in terms of animations. Chrom just happens to share the animation from a different character for his Up-B. I don't think this can easily be achieved with Dixie's hair, as it would require its own unique animations and can't be just copied and pasted.

 

[NintenRob]

I'm not sure. None of the echoes so far have deviated from their counterparts, in terms of animations. Chrom just happens to share the animation from a different character for his Up-B. I don't think this can easily be achieved with Dixie's hair, as it would require its own unique animations and can't be just copied and pasted.

Dark Samus was few different animations, notably her dash attack. And she does hold her arm when charging.

Chrom no longer has uses a reverse grip like Roy and I think might use an aerial more similar to Marth than Roy.

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

Ok so at one point everyone on here was debating Dixie's overall popularity. Someone went around and accrued the cumulative poll results of multiple fan polls and ballots that were released prior to Smash Ultimate's reveal. The data is anecdotal, possibly inconsistent and is by no one means completely representative of the smash pantheon as a whole. But it's a more definitive ranking system than anything besides the Smash 4 ballot itself.

Take it with a grain of salt but the results were:

1. K Rool
2. Isaac
3. Banjo-Kazooie
4. Wolf
5. Snake
6. Inkling
7. Bandana Dee
8. Shovel Knight
9. Paper Mario
10. Bayonetta
11. Shantae
12. Ice Climbers
13. Geno
14. Krystal
15. Ridley
16. Waluigi
17. Magalor
18. Dixie Kong

Out of those on this list, K Rool, Bayonetta, Wolf, Ice Climbers, Snake, Ridley and Inkling are all now playable. Waluigi, Shovel Knight and Krystal are all Assist Trophies.

This leaves Isaac, Banjo, Bandana Dee, Paper Mario, Shantae, Geno and Magalor ahead of Dixie, putting her at number 8.

Not sure when all of this data was taken exactly, nor can I give you a list of sources. It's just something being discussed on the Isaac thread. It's worth noting that his Japan results were dubious at bestdue to how he acquired data for them, so this list is Western biased.

What do all think? Again, take it with a grain of salt. I believe Magalor was the result of that untrustworthy Japanese data, so realistically she's probably ahead of him.

I think Dixie would rank higher now judging by the amount of K. Rool supporters coming in; she probably would stand to gain more supporters than the others after fans of the confirmed/deconfirmed jump ship to a new character. I also think Isaac is overrated; his popularity likely doesn't go very far outside of core Smash fandom.

 

[pepiux]

Dark Samus was few different animations, notably her dash attack. And she does hold her arm when charging.

Chrom no longer has uses a reverse grip like Roy and I think might use an aerial more similar to Marth than Roy.

But that doesn't really compare to animating Dixie's hair for attacking, grabbing, etc. Dark Samus' dash looks a bit different, but only aesthetically: the core of the animation is still Samus'. Chrom's animations are based on existing ones too, because he wields a sword and attacks in the same way as others.

Dixie has an appendage that no one in the cast uses for attacking, and the placement of said appendage (back of her head) makes it difficult, and dare I say not possible, to just alter another character's move and make it her own. Take any of Diddy's attacks: punches, kicks, etc. How can you take any of those attacks' animations and translate them to a hair-attack requiring head movement? Doesn't work.

This is the reason why I cannot see Dixie's hair being implemented into some attacks and still be a full-fledged Echo. She will either get entirely new moves (new animations) or be a full Echo and not use her hair for anything. Even having DK's Up-B, as most people claim, wouldn't really work, as DK spins his body and arms and Dixie spins her body and hair, which DK lacks. They don’t share body size either, so they cannot just use DK's data and give it to Dixie; they would need to alter the core of the original animation, and that's something we haven't seen in any of the Echoes so far.

Then again, I don't know if she will still be labeled as an Echo if she gets new moves.

 

[GAINAX]

So long as you have the same hitboxes, you can rebind the character model to have different animations. Basically, you'd have her hair overlap where DK's hands would be like a helicopter. It would happen so fast, her hair would change from left to right every other frame, but the hitbox data would be the same as DK.

 

[ZeroJanitor]

chrom's up B animation is actually quite different from ike's, its just kinda hard to notice since the move is so fast and does basically the same thing. its also worth mentioning that dark samus actually has a completely different roll than samus; instead of rolling away using the morph ball, she does a floating roll similar to characters like mewtwo.

so idk i think if they wanted to include some animations where she uses her hair, they would

 

[pepiux]

So long as you have the same hitboxes, you can rebind the character model to have different animations. Basically, you'd have her hair overlap where DK's hands would be like a helicopter. It would happen so fast, her hair would change from left to right every other frame, but the hitbox data would be the same as DK.

I don't think it works like that. Can't bother to find them now, but you can find mod videos on youtube where the copy-paste moves from one character to another. If you do this with DK's Up-B onto Dixie, she would be spinning her arms only. This is what I mean when they have to change the core of the animation.

chrom's up B animation is actually quite different from ike's, its just kinda hard to notice since the move is so fast and does basically the same thing.

The attacking animation is still the same, as you mentioned yourself: they both attack with a sword that they launch in the air with their hands, no matter how aesthetically different it looks. Diddy/DK do not have an appendage at the back of their heads, so you cannot just copy and paste any of their punching/kicking attacks onto Dixie if you want her to use her hair. Yeah you could get away with a few select attacks, but hitboxes wouldn't match for most of them.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Something that just occurred to me with Dixie's inclusion after wondering what'd be implemented to her that'd be some "extra work":

What do you think her voice will sound like? I expect they make her sound like a real-life monkey much like Diddy and Donkey has so far, but again, the results could be highly varying degrees of success here, since this is Dixie we're talking about.

 

[smashkirby]

Something that just occurred to me with Dixie's inclusion after wondering what'd be implemented to her that'd be some "extra work":

What do you think her voice will sound like? I expect they make her sound like a real-life monkey much like Diddy and Donkey has so far, but again, the results could be highly varying degrees of success here, since this is Dixie we're talking about.

Eh, maybe a feminine version of Diddy's voice-clips currently in Smash is what they'll go with. Personally, I'd want Takashi Nagasako, Katsumi Suzuki, and Kaoru Sasajima to reprise their roles of Donkey, Diddy, and Dixie respectively for Smash.

 

[ZeroJanitor]

what if they pulled a luigi and just give her higher-pitch versions of diddy's voice clips

 

[Sponge]

Made a Smash chart listing Donkey Kong characters out of boredom today. I definitely think Dixie deserves to be in next.

 

[DeltaSceptile]

Seeing Kritter back in Smash 4, and K. Rool making his glorious return now got me thinking: Would anyone else want the return of other classics like Winky, Expresso, or perhaps even the Zingers in a new DKC game?
Also, I thought for a long time and figured Dixie to be third most likely echo, after Shadow and Isabelle.

 

[Dixie Kong]

Seeing Kritter back in Smash 4, and K. Rool making his glorious return now got me thinking: Would anyone else want the return of other classics like Winky, Expresso, or perhaps even the Zingers in a new DKC game?
Also, I thought for a long time and figured Dixie to be third most likely echo, after Shadow and Isabelle.

Yes! They all need to come back, along with Tiny, Chunky, and Lanky! Heck bring back Wrinkly as a ghost as well!
I want to see Dixie and Tiny interact!

 

[Ultinarok]

I think Dixie would rank higher now judging by the amount of K. Rool supporters coming in; she probably would stand to gain more supporters than the others after fans of the confirmed/deconfirmed jump ship to a new character. I also think Isaac is overrated; his popularity likely doesn't go very far outside of core Smash fandom.

Edit: Content removed because apparently I don't remember what year it is and I'm old and senile, thanks StormC for reminding me, I had somehow convinced myself that Tropical Freeze was a 2015 game. Life seems to blur when you get to your mid 20's.

Isaac is really popular in most places outside of Japan though. I believe he's top 3. Remember, he's been a heavy hitter for over a decade, only historically losing out to Mewtwo, Ridley and Rool. There's a reason his thread is one of the most active ones by far, and this carries over to other sites too. But only in the West, if Japan's data was more accurate, he would probably drop a few places overall.

 

[spoilerowl]

Man, any combination of Lanky, Tiny, and Chunky would be a dream. Obviously DK, Diddy, K. Rool, Dixie, Cranky, and Funky all have priority over them, but having such a deep personal connection with DK64 it pains me how much the rest of the DK crew have been neglected, even moreso than K. Rool was.

Cameos aside...

Tiny - DKRDS and Barrel Blast, albeit with a horrid redesign
Lanky - Just Barrel Blast
Chunky - nothing

I hope the speculation of a new 3D Donkey Kong game is true, even if it's a DK64 remaster, just to bring these characters back to the limelight.

 

[Dixie Kong]

Man, any combination of Lanky, Tiny, and Chunky would be a dream. Obviously DK, Diddy, K. Rool, Dixie, Cranky, and Funky all have priority over them, but having such a deep personal connection with DK64 it pains me how much the rest of the DK crew have been neglected, even moreso than K. Rool was.

Yes, they should remaster DK64 with Dixie as a bonus character!
If Dixie does come with a Tropical Freeze stage, what should be in it?

 

[StormC]

It's also worth noting that many of these polls were during the Smash 4 DLC era (which is why Bayo is on there), which means Tropical Freeze wasn't out yet worldwide when some of these polls were taken. That game has likely caused a surge in popularity for Dixie, especially in the last three years, and probably coincided right around the beginning of Ultimate's development cycle.

Isaac is really popular in most places outside of Japan though. I believe he's top 3. Remember, he's been a heavy hitter for over a decade, only historically losing out to Mewtwo, Ridley and Rool. There's a reason his thread is one of the most active ones by far, and this carries over to other sites too. But only in the West, if Japan's data was more accurate, he would probably drop a few places overall.

Tropical Freeze came out worldwide in February 2014. The Smash Ballot was announced in April 2015.

I think Dixie would rank higher now judging by the amount of K. Rool supporters coming in; she probably would stand to gain more supporters than the others after fans of the confirmed/deconfirmed jump ship to a new character. I also think Isaac is overrated; his popularity likely doesn't go very far outside of core Smash fandom.

K. Rool is enough proof to me that core Smash fans drove the ballot. K. Rool hasn't been in the mainstream since 1999, but here we are.

 

[Ultinarok]

Tropical Freeze came out worldwide in February 2014. The Smash Ballot was announced in April 2015.



K. Rool is enough proof to me that core Smash fans drove the ballot. K. Rool hasn't been in the mainstream since 1999, but here we are.

Yep I'm senile, disregard that content, I somehow believed TF was originally a 2015 game and I'm at work and didnt bother verifying my data. Good catch. Kinda wish my point was correct in this case though considering it would put Dixie in potentially better standing, but oh well.

 

[paperosbronzo90]

If Dixie does come with a Tropical Freeze stage, what should be in it?

I think it should be Grassland Groove. I would love that stage, it's so joyful (and the music is awesome too)

 

[BKupa666]

Hello! So, I'm in an unusual spot with Dixie. With how long I've been invested in bringing back K. Rool, part of me doesn't want to outright support anyone else on account of not wanting to be ungrateful or greedy. But by pretty much every metric Dixie should be in this game right alongside the two other Kongs and Rool, regardless of how her moveset takes shape, and I really would like to see here there.

Something that makes me optimistic for her chances is how Sakurai called Chrom and Dark Samus "highly requested" characters. Not to disparage the two, but most of the support I saw for the former was grounded in Wii U-era expectation that the latest FE lord was a lock, while the latter was largely brought up as a "Well, if you can't have Ridley..." consolation. Dixie absolutely surpassed those two as far as I can tell, and when you couple that with the apparent effort to check off the last few big names from veteran series, I think she's got as good a shot as any. It likely wouldn't be with the flamboyant Millia Rage type attacks I've seen envisioned over the years, but I have faith Sakurai could convey her personality well through animations, and piece in the obvious attacks (bubble gun, hair spin, hair pound) with Diddy's framework. A pet idea of mine is to have Diddy's new Final Smash be a Rambi supercharge, with the first animal buddy from his starting DKC2 role, in which case Dixie's should be a charge with Ellie, the first animal buddy in DKC3.

And if she's not in this game, I can assure you'll have the backing of a number of K. Rool fans, myself included, to talk her up as a DLC candidate. By which time, she'll have not just the TF port but potentially "a brand new DK experience," in Reggie's words, putting promotional winds in her sails.

Best of luck!

 

[StormC]

Having a Tropical Freeze stage and having it not be based on the frozen DK Island just seems like a missed opportunity. Especially if it's another jungle.

I personally like the idea of a stage based on Cliffside Slide, with the crumbling scenery and silhouettes and whatnot.

Tropical Freeze is one of the most prestigious Nintendo games of the last decade, and not having it represented in Smash would be a crying shame.

 

[Dixie Kong]

Having Ellie return for Dixie's final smash would be awesome, she's way overdue for another appearance!

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Seeing Kritter back in Smash 4, and K. Rool making his glorious return now got me thinking: Would anyone else want the return of other classics like Winky, Expresso, or perhaps even the Zingers in a new DKC game?
Also, I thought for a long time and figured Dixie to be third most likely echo, after Shadow and Isabelle.

Though personally I want Squitter in there instead of Expresso.

Yes! They all need to come back, along with Tiny, Chunky, and Lanky! Heck bring back Wrinkly as a ghost as well!
I want to see Dixie and Tiny interact!

Yes, we need Dixie and Tiny as the second Smash sibling team after the Mario Bros (albeit with a sillier height difference)! The main thing with the DK Crew though is that right now they don't have much popularity traction overall, with Lanky being the only one who has significant enough attention with his memes, and even then Funky has him beat by a landslide with his Funky New Meme. So they certainly need to have a following snowballed up for future games, especially if a new DKC comes that features them.

Although Wrinkly would be a stretch, at least an AT appearance would do.

 

[BirthNote]

Heads up to everyone who voiced their Support: I'll add y'all soon.

Seeing Kritter back in Smash 4, and K. Rool making his glorious return now got me thinking: Would anyone else want the return of other classics like Winky, Expresso, or perhaps even the Zingers in a new DKC game?
Also, I thought for a long time and figured Dixie to be third most likely echo, after Shadow and Isabelle.

Honestly, Dixie and Rattly pretty much replaced Expresso and Winky all the way back in DKC2. We didn't need an Animal Buddy to do what Dixie could naturally, and Rattly was better at jumping than Winky. Now we have Diddy's jetpack, which is basically a downgraded Expresso and by extension Dixie move along with Funky, plus Cranky fills a role that Rattly would've had and hurts armored targets.

Squitter has a niche that can't really be replaced by a Kong so it'd be a nice thing to have him back, and Enguarde's uses seems to have been split between Dixie, Diddy and Cranky (faster swimming, burst of speed, spear-like attack) but to have that in one would be fun again. And I'm still not down with Dixie being an Echo, but y'all know that already LOL. Zingers would be nice to have back too.

 

[DeltaSceptile]

Honestly, Dixie and Rattly pretty much replaced Expresso and Winky all the way back in DKC2. We didn't need an Animal Buddy to do what Dixie could naturally, and Rattly was better at jumping than Winky. Now we have Diddy's jetpack, which is basically a downgraded Expresso and by extension Dixie move along with Funky, plus Cranky fills a role that Rattly would've had and hurts armored targets.

Regardless of redundancy, it'd still be nice to see all of them again, cause the animal buddies outside of Rambi are just more fun than him and Winky is my favorite from the original DKC. In fact, Rambi and Squawks were the only ones to make a return when the franchise was revived.

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

Whether Dixie gets in Smash or not I just REALLY want a Dixie Kong amiibo. Hopefully DK could get an amiibo line when the next DK game is announced. Though since I already own DK and Diddy and for SURE getting that K.Rool amiibo. I would love a Dixie, Cranky, and Funky amiibo as well.

 

[cybersai]

If Dixie doesn't get into Smash imagine how awkward the character select screen will look. DK, Diddy, K. Rool.

With no Dixie in between Diddy and K. Rool. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

 

[StormC]

If Dixie doesn't get into Smash imagine how awkward the character select screen will look. DK, Diddy, K. Rool.

With no Dixie in between Diddy and K. Rool. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

Wouldn't it make more sense for Dixie to appear after K. Rool since she was added to the DK series after him?

I guess if Dixie is an echo then that wouldn't be the case.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

If Dixie doesn't get into Smash imagine how awkward the character select screen will look. DK, Diddy, K. Rool.

With no Dixie in between Diddy and K. Rool. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

the roster is ordered by the order they joined the smash series, none of the DK characters are gonna be together anyway

 

[StormC]

the roster is ordered by the order they joined the smash series, none of the DK characters are gonna be together anyway

Didn’t they say in the Direct you can group by franchise?

 

[ZeroJanitor]

they didnt say anything like that actually

 

[Maxoxpower]

they didnt say anything like that actually

you can stack echo charachter and order by serie in the website.
i bet you can order by serie in the final release

 

[BirthNote]

We've got some new Support Buddies!
T Toucan_Man
Mona Pizza
Wyvern 0m3g4
PlayerOneTyler
No Bad Vibes
hydrokyogre
BKupa666
Have now joined the Barrel! Welcome inside!

Irate Eight on hard mode is the worst. I've beat it a few times, but trying to get all the Kong letters and beat it on the same try is so tough.

Yea, it's like you need patience to do this in Hard Mode but at the same time you gotta haul *** cuz Squiddicus is coming for you. It doesn't help if you're using Diddy because his jet propulsion will get you killed, and since there's no checkpoints and he's the fastest Kong underwater, we're gonna have problems LOL.

I'm sure quite a few of you have seen this already but being as I listen to quite a bit of DKC2 music on the regular, I figured I'd share:

Spoiler

DKC2 was lightning in a bottle. It's neigh impossible to recreate the magic of a game like that.

Welcome to the Barrel! I actually didn't know about this, so I'ma put it in the Music Section. Thanks!

I agree 100% with you. Dixie is cursed with the concept of being a Diddy clone since the Brawl days. I still maintain that there is no valid reason for her to be an Echo, other than her body structure being similar to Diddy's. It's always the same thing: same body type as Diddy, time constraints, saving development time. You can say that of a lot of characters, yet Dixie is targeted due to being aesthetically similar to another character. Don't think it will stop unless Dixie makes it as unique.

Highly agreed. It's been like this for the longest. If she wasn't being suggested to pair with Diddy, she was suggested to be a clone. Time has a funny way of repeating.

So I noticed Diddy had a Kiddy Kong costume in 4, has it been seen yet? Obviously a Dixie/Kiddy pair up would 99% not happen, but considering Dixie was supposed to pair up in Brawl, plus Sakurai might be realizing there's been a severe lack of DK representation..

That's a Kiddy alt? Wow, that never occurred to me...

I liked it too, but compared to brawl you have to admit it wasn't on the same level.

I guess you're replying to me? In that case, yea actually. Melee's music was good but Brawl made a huge jump with all the effort they put into it. Smash 4's was good and I like a good amount of the songs, but yea Brawl's tracks blew my mind, so fair enough.

I've never seen her as a clone/Echo; I've always imagined her fighting with her hair, as if it were a sword that you can also use to grab, lift and glide.

Again, this. She was so useful in DKC 2 & 3 that when people wrote her off as not having much going for her, I was taken aback and disagreed.

Oh, so much. On one hand, it's nice to see so many people supporting Dixie. On the other hand, every time someone says they'd like to see her as a Diddy echo (with maybe one or two attacks changed), it hurts me a little.

Dixie has the relevance, merit, and potential to get in as a full newcomer.

AGREED. 100%

Let's go ahead and fire up those engines for the Dixie hype train! Unofficial yes but this is our time to make some noise and show we mean business. I already casted my vote. I think we should be as vocal as possible on every poll we can find. Again even if her fate was already decided for the base game there is always a chance for DLC and if the devs of Smash see she's always standing near the top in every poll they look at then they might address it. If I have to wait another 8 years to play as Dixie then so be it but she will get in Smash one way or another. If the King can do it so can Dixie! #DKDOUBLE #TEAMDK

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They've got a Ballot going ALREADY?! Voted back on Thursday, and thank you for sharing! If this is official then DLC is basically confirmed.

Hey there everyone, nice to meet you all. Now, because of the massive excitement I felt regarding the upcoming SSBU, and my own concerns/wishes/predictions/etc, and because I seriously need to burn off all that extra energy until release day, I figured I'd drop by and participate in supporting my strong desire to have Dixie in Smash Bros. Truth be told, as I'm sure plenty of people have said already, now that we have King K. Rool as a playable fighter, Dixie's inclusion feels like it may indeed be possible. And I sure hope it is!

So yeah, if no one minds, I'd like to be a supporter too. I didn't realize it until the Smash Ballot happened a while back, but it seems I have a true soft spot for both Diddy and Dixie Kong, given how nostalgic I am towards DKC2 (what, with it being a game I regularly played when I was 4/5 years old.) So yeah, rambling aside, count me in.

Also, sorry if I don't have much to contribute in terms of what I think could work as Dixie's moveset; many of you have come up with ideas that blow anything I could come up with out of the water. All I know for certain is that I want to see Diddy and Dixie smash it up together in Ultimate. Breaks my heart a bit to imagine Dixie having to wait it out on the sidelines and watch Diddy have all the fun.

Hey Wyvern, don't worry about contributing. Long as you're on the list and discussing things pertaining to Dixie you're keeping the thread alive. If you do have art/movesets/etc to contribute that's fine too; it'll go straight to the OP.

Interesteting Tweet from Loz18:
https://twitter.com/loz183/status/1030064876323053569

For anyone unfamiliar with Loz18, he's leaked a lot of stuff that's turned out to be true over on the Gamefaqs forums. He recently closed his account there and made a Twitter account. Any speculation of Dixie from someone with inside knowledge is promising...

Honestly I doubt that tweet in particular means anything useful. It tells me that the well of his info has run dry, and whatever he says going forward is just speculation.

Something that just occurred to me with Dixie's inclusion after wondering what'd be implemented to her that'd be some "extra work":

What do you think her voice will sound like? I expect they make her sound like a real-life monkey much like Diddy and Donkey has so far, but again, the results could be highly varying degrees of success here, since this is Dixie we're talking about.

I think they'll either have a higher-pitched version of Diddy's (which will pierce my ear LOL) or a softer-pitched version to imply a feminine sound.

Hello! So, I'm in an unusual spot with Dixie. With how long I've been invested in bringing back K. Rool, part of me doesn't want to outright support anyone else on account of not wanting to be ungrateful or greedy. But by pretty much every metric Dixie should be in this game right alongside the two other Kongs and Rool, regardless of how her moveset takes shape, and I really would like to see here there.

Something that makes me optimistic for her chances is how Sakurai called Chrom and Dark Samus "highly requested" characters. Not to disparage the two, but most of the support I saw for the former was grounded in Wii U-era expectation that the latest FE lord was a lock, while the latter was largely brought up as a "Well, if you can't have Ridley..." consolation. Dixie absolutely surpassed those two as far as I can tell, and when you couple that with the apparent effort to check off the last few big names from veteran series, I think she's got as good a shot as any. It likely wouldn't be with the flamboyant Millia Rage type attacks I've seen envisioned over the years, but I have faith Sakurai could convey her personality well through animations, and piece in the obvious attacks (bubble gun, hair spin, hair pound) with Diddy's framework. A pet idea of mine is to have Diddy's new Final Smash be a Rambi supercharge, with the first animal buddy from his starting DKC2 role, in which case Dixie's should be a charge with Ellie, the first animal buddy in DKC3.

And if she's not in this game, I can assure you'll have the backing of a number of K. Rool fans, myself included, to talk her up as a DLC candidate. By which time, she'll have not just the TF port but potentially "a brand new DK experience," in Reggie's words, putting promotional winds in her sails.

Best of luck!

Thanks for stopping by, Kupa! It's really good to hear fellow DK fans rally around Dixie; at the moment I'm hoping Sakurai doesn't see the DK series as complete until he gets the 3 main Kongs fighting their greatest enemy.

 

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I know one thing if Dixie is confirmed. The match I'm doing 3rd after a 5v5 squad with Ridley. K.Rool, Wolf, Bowser, and Ganondorf vs. Samus, DK, Fox, Mario, and Link and an 8 player match with Ridley, K.Rool, Bowser, Ganondorf, Wolf, Bowser Jr., King Dedede, and Dark Samus is DEFINITELY going to be a 3 v 1 match with DK, Diddy, and Dixie vs. K.Rool. Also when I'm playing Smash I'm gonna make sure I never have a match (if I can help it not including online play) where DK, Diddy, and Dixie are never in conflict with each other. I just can't imagine using DK's final smash on Dixie. That **** would be too heartbreaking for me to bear.