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There's no guarantee that they'll reveal both characters here - I could see them spreading it out since (as far as we know) these are the last two, so they'd want to keep the excitement/hype/interest going for as long as possible. (the possibility of a Smash character is bound to get a lot of people to turn into Nintendo Directs)
The playlist has two private videos on it though as pointed out in the Newcomer Thread.
I totally agree. It seems that Nintendo continues to acknowledge Dixie more and more. They even said "the debut of the incomparable Dixie Kong" in the description of DKC2 in the news feed page (If I remember well) not long time ago. There's no reason to not include her in the next game
I remember how I once used to hold same thoughts about her and Captain Toad in this very manner prior to Ultimate.
apparently the leaker who leaked EVERYTHING is gonna leak nintendo tomorrow so uh, be prepared
— Evileye🍆💦 (@Evileye515_) June 13, 2021
I disagree here. The more i think about it, most recent Smash annoncements at the last minute or that are big events tended to be double reveals.
Not to jinx it, but yes, rationally analyzing it, I think it's the moment Dixie has the biggest odds since ages. Maybe I thought she could fit in as dlc during very first stages of Smash4 dlc (when still dlc weren't officially confirmed but just rumoured, and we had the gematsu modified leak with Mewtwo, Dixie, Ridley, Mach Rider and Chorus Kids), when we didn't know how Sakurai and Nintendo conceived dlcs for Smash, and so a character like Dixie appeared plausible (especially because Tropical Freeze was recent news).
not even in the wilder wilderness of our wildest dream! Even if all I said was true, something of unconsidered, and not predictable in any way would fall from the Chaos straight in our Reality to prevent Dixie from Smash. Or more simply, the rumors about a new DK game were fake, or maybe the last two dlc characters are two guest star characters (I fear Namco, Tecmo, Capcom, Atlus with Shin Megami Tensei, maybe also Crash Bandicoot, like I never feared them before...)
It would certainly be one of the largest social threads aside from Banjo.
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Considering that,
Fantastic art as always. It really does show the potential Dixie Kong has as a fighter. In general, the art shared in this thread is something I always looked forward to and enjoyed seeing. Thank you for sharing it during this late hour.Ok, so here's the idea I promised in the previous post:
We have another installment in the Summon category. These are instances when Dixie gets help from a familiar face, and not all of them are Animal Buddies. In this case though, Dixie does get help from an AB, and here we have none other than Squawks:
Squawks appears in a puff of smoke and vomits out a seed like in DKC2! The seed bounces on the ground in an arc that's tighter than Mario's fireballs, and it travels faster than them as well. It can bounce off walls and is a below-average hitter in terms of damage, meant more for disruption overall. Works best as a Side Special.
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In the event that Dixie's Popgun doesn't get used, Squawks is a good alternative as he canonically used this attack in DKC2. When it comes to moveset potential, Squawks has 2 uses: fly a Kong to safety (my Up B from way back when) and spit seeds at enemies. So in his case, I've covered any potential uses he might have in a hypothetical moveset, so I'm done with brainstorming for him. This could've been a Neutral Special, but because of Kirby it's better as a Side B; this concept is pretty straightforward so there's not much to go into. It's an alternative to Dixie's gumball popgun and that's that. Please put this on twitter whenever you'd like! I understand the potential news tsunami will take precedence over this so I'm not sweating it.
One more thing, this goes to show all the potential that Dixie has as a unique and viable fighter worth speculating on. She has far more going for her than Wig Diddy and can come with interesting traits that range from DKC Props, Animal Buddy Summons, Grapple Oriented Fighter, and 5-Limbed Combatant. K. Rool is primarily the only one who utilizes his canon, DKC series and DK64 attacks; DK and Diddy are primarily made up movesets, so Dixie using her unique abilities in reference to her canon attacks would be refreshing. 2 that do, and 2 that don't. Dixie's hair often gets overlooked as only able to do helicopter spins, but doing so ignores how she fights with it, grabs with it, whips and throws with it, etc. She even drills with it! It functions as an extra limb, and I maintain that a 5-Limbed character (2 arms, 2 legs, one Prehensile Ponytail) in a fighting game is a simple but very practical jumping off point for unique ideas. Imagine being able to hold 2 items, one in your hand and the other in your hair. Dixie's ponytail is essentially a Combat Tentacle growing out the back of her head that's surprisingly strong with good range. Dixie can potentially cover the Prehensile Hair, Combat Tentacle and Multi-Armed and Dangerous tropes. For those who are new to this thread, I have a google doc of ideas meant to spark your imagination. I'm not saying or think Dixie will get in exactly how I imagine her, but I do want people to see her potential. It looks best on desk/laptops though, have a look:
There's a ton of ideas and details to inspire others and it won't disappoint! Anyway, however today ends, know that Dixie has a lot going for her.Dixie Kong Moveset by Andrew C
Overview Dixie joins the roster not as a Diddy Echo or Semi-Clone, but as a potential grapple-based character from the DK series. Using her ponytail as an extra limb, strong arm and unorthodox propeller, Dixie’s able to hold her own against her foes with surprisingly strong attacks and aerial mo...
This is a very beautiful statement. I mean that. One of the most poignant things I read in this thread in a very long time (and not just this thread, but for this whole site in general).. You did a very good job maintaining this thread. I mean that. You and so many others in this thread are the reason why I still kept posting despite having almost no hope for Dixie Kong as DLC once Joker was unveiled. This was what I wrote when that happened:
Your (the posters in this thread) passion and support in spite of Dixie's dismal prospects was what made me check on this thread every day, and give me a place where I felt I could share my ideas and analyses. Thank you to everyone in this thread.
11th hour post it is indeed. Even if Dixie Kong is not in the next Donkey Kong game, she will almost certainly appear in the one after. That is because Nintendo is making Donkey Kong a priority again, as they should be. If the next game is developed by Nintendo EPD like I suspect, that will affirm my suspicion.Considering that,, I want to use this late hour to help prepare for the scenario that many of us would not like to see, namely that Dixie Kong will not make an appearance in the new DK title that is rumored to be unveiled later today.many of my E3 predictions are turning out to be true
If that is the case, then Dixie is definitely not going to be playable in Ultimate, and her fanbase will have an uphill battle for the next game as well. I think by that point, Cranky and Funky Kong might have competitively sized fanbases with Dixie Kong (I am definitely noticing more and more support for those two with each subsequent year).
Secondly, there have been MULTIPLE points in Dixie Kong's history where she was not brought back for a major installment in the DK series:
Diddy Kong Racing did not have her in despite DKC3 releasing the year before, and DKL3 releasing at the same time as Diddy Kong Racing.
Donkey Kong 64 did not have her despite it having a playable character that utilized gliding.
Country Returns did not have her despite bringing in multiple Rare created characters (Diddy Kong, Cranky Kong, Rambi, Squawks).
I feel extremely strongly that in a few hours not only will we know all of the characters to Pass 2 (and that Dixie Kong will not be among them), but also that she will be absent from the new DK title that will be unveiled. I am not going to look forward to how this thread will look in three hours. It will probably be bittersweet like I said (happy about a new DK title being made and K. Rool and the Kremlings returning, but disappointed that Dixie Kong once again missed out on yet another critical DK title).
As I said many times before, Dixie Kong is going to need K. Rool fanbase level support and energy is she is going to have any sort of hope of ever becoming playable. Barring that, she is basically another Toad (a character with an incredible legacy within their own franchise, that will always get passed on for Smash by both fans and developers).
As I said before, I am not going to fight that fight. I just don't have the time or interest to do it. Ultimate was also 95% of what I wanted to see in Smash, and I feel many of the veterans I have a strong personal attachment to (such as Roy) are the top of the chopping block for the next title. Ultimate was pretty much my dream Smash.
In a few hours, I feel my "pessimism" will be completely vindicated.
If there is a silver lining, it might be that if this new DK title does well enough, a subsequent game will be made, and hopefully Dixie Kong will be a major part of that one.
Fantastic art as always. It really does show the potential Dixie Kong has as a fighter. In general, the art shared in this thread is something I always looked forward to and enjoyed seeing. Thank you for sharing it during this late hour.
This is a very beautiful statement. I mean that. One of the most poignant things I read in this thread in a very long time (and not just this thread, but for this whole site in general).. You did a very good job maintaining this thread. I mean that. You and so many others in this thread are the reason why I still kept posting despite having almost no hope for Dixie Kong as DLC once Joker was unveiled. This was what I wrote when that happened:
Your (the posters in this thread) passion and support in spite of Dixie's dismal prospects was what made me check on this thread every day, and give me a place where I felt I could share my ideas and analyses. Thank you to everyone in this thread.
Even if Dixie Kong is never a playable character in the Smash series, she is still one of Nintendo's most legendary heroines. She just happened to constantly get a bad roll of the dice (both within her own series, and within timing and particular circumstances for Smash Bros.). As BirthNote said, Dixie Kong is a great character with or without Smash Bros.
Heck, maybe some day, we can make Dixie Kong a reality in Ultimate ourselves through mods.
I am truly glad I got to experience this thread even if things did not end in the way we wanted. Sometimes the journey is just as a satisfying experience as the destination. While the destination was not where we wanted to end up, I can say we certainly had a great journey together.
You guys made my last few years in the Smash community pleasant and enjoyable. Thank you.
I will cross my fingers for a miracle or two, but even if the undesirable scenario I outlined comes to pass, I still want to say that I really liked my time here, and feel I can now bow out out of the Smash speculation and character support community. As I said, I will post an updated version of my Dixie Kong essay some time in the near future. I am contemplating also maybe to put out an essay reflecting about the last 20 years I have been with the Smash community, but I can make no promise that I will actually follow through with it.
We shall see what unfolds one hour from now. We are in this together.
ChronoBound
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Woah! I love it! You're selling me on the animal buddies when I was kinda skeptical of them in Dixie's moveset. I think the poses you use and the context for the move helps a lot. So it doesn't feel "random" which I sometimes felt with some animal buddy suggestions. But yeah, I'll post it in a few days depending on what's shown so your artwork is not overshadowed.Ok, so here's the idea I promised in the previous post:
We have another installment in the Summon category. These are instances when Dixie gets help from a familiar face, and not all of them are Animal Buddies. In this case though, Dixie does get help from an AB, and here we have none other than Squawks:
Squawks appears in a puff of smoke and vomits out a seed like in DKC2! The seed bounces on the ground in an arc that's tighter than Mario's fireballs, and it travels faster than them as well. It can bounce off walls and is a below-average hitter in terms of damage, meant more for disruption overall. Works best as a Side Special.
.........................
In the event that Dixie's Popgun doesn't get used, Squawks is a good alternative as he canonically used this attack in DKC2. When it comes to moveset potential, Squawks has 2 uses: fly a Kong to safety (my Up B from way back when) and spit seeds at enemies. So in his case, I've covered any potential uses he might have in a hypothetical moveset, so I'm done with brainstorming for him. This could've been a Neutral Special, but because of Kirby it's better as a Side B; this concept is pretty straightforward so there's not much to go into. It's an alternative to Dixie's gumball popgun and that's that. Please put this on twitter whenever you'd like! I understand the potential news tsunami will take precedence over this so I'm not sweating it.
One more thing, this goes to show all the potential that Dixie has as a unique and viable fighter worth speculating on. She has far more going for her than Wig Diddy and can come with interesting traits that range from DKC Props, Animal Buddy Summons, Grapple Oriented Fighter, and 5-Limbed Combatant. K. Rool is primarily the only one who utilizes his canon, DKC series and DK64 attacks; DK and Diddy are primarily made up movesets, so Dixie using her unique abilities in reference to her canon attacks would be refreshing. 2 that do, and 2 that don't. Dixie's hair often gets overlooked as only able to do helicopter spins, but doing so ignores how she fights with it, grabs with it, whips and throws with it, etc. She even drills with it! It functions as an extra limb, and I maintain that a 5-Limbed character (2 arms, 2 legs, one Prehensile Ponytail) in a fighting game is a simple but very practical jumping off point for unique ideas. Imagine being able to hold 2 items, one in your hand and the other in your hair. Dixie's ponytail is essentially a Combat Tentacle growing out the back of her head that's surprisingly strong with good range. Dixie can potentially cover the Prehensile Hair, Combat Tentacle and Multi-Armed and Dangerous tropes. For those who are new to this thread, I have a google doc of ideas meant to spark your imagination. I'm not saying or think Dixie will get in exactly how I imagine her, but I do want people to see her potential. It looks best on desk/laptops though, have a look:
There's a ton of ideas and details to inspire others and it won't disappoint! Anyway, however today ends, know that Dixie has a lot going for her.Dixie Kong Moveset by Andrew C
Overview Dixie joins the roster not as a Diddy Echo or Semi-Clone, but as a potential grapple-based character from the DK series. Using her ponytail as an extra limb, strong arm and unorthodox propeller, Dixie’s able to hold her own against her foes with surprisingly strong attacks and aerial mo...
Mushroomguy12
Yeah I'm getting kinda nervous here lol. Literally took a nap to speed things up after my last post and a lot has been said.
ChronoBound
thank you so VERY much! I've always taken your essays to heart and appreciated every post. It shows in your 20 year history that you're very wise, even in the post Brawl days I regarded your posts with respect, and when you first commented in this thread it was a great surprise to see such a long-time fan support Dixie. You certainly have my respect.
InASnowBoundLand
that's the PERFECT way to approach today's E3. I'm gonna do the same!
Having seen some notable Nintendo IPs being brought to limelight again
I guess I'll keep an open mind about it then.Having seen some notable Nintendo IPs being brought to limelight again(ADVANCE WARS), I might be willing to give the rumors still some chance to prove themselves one more time...Though again, this was still a big place to really open the curtains.
