Dissidia Mafia: Over Serial Killer Wiins! ~ Told you $#!* got real!

[#HBC | J]

The more you brag about your "correct" scum reads the weaker you look for failing to convince people

I love this quote. It's soooo true people can say "OMG I CALLED THEM SCUM!" but it's really nothing at all if you cannot convince anyone that they are or get them lynched. =P It actually gives more credit to the one who was called scum because even though they were so apparantly obvious as scum they still weren't dealt with.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

nah, we just picked the wrong one first. lol

 

[~ Gheb ~]

nah, we just picked the wrong one first. lol

Doesn't make it any better or my quote any less true.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I love this quote. It's soooo true people can say "OMG I CALLED THEM SCUM!" but it's really nothing at all if you cannot convince anyone that they are or get them lynched. =P It actually gives more credit to the one who was called scum because even though they were so apparantly obvious as scum they still weren't dealt with.

Sure. Gheb wasn't getting lynched short of a cop/watch/track claim.

 

[JTB]

Speaking of the cop claim, Asdioh happened to cop Gheb N1 LOL

 

[Purple]

Sure. Gheb wasn't getting lynched short of a cop/watch/track claim.

Aaaah Ryker.

 

[Asdioh]

Oh did I mess up?

Crap sorry town.

Yeah.. it's ok.

yeah, it was really unfortunate that we couldn't use them to our advantage. I saw hida use his on RF d3, but it didn't really matter.

scum lost when I sent in the NK on d1

1. when Hida made RF switch his votes it was SO OBVIOUS lol.
2. why did you send in the NK, instead of Hida who was obvious scum as I had been saying the entire time I was alive?

MVP is obvious.

Yeah, saw that coming a long time ago :x

Sure. Gheb wasn't getting lynched short of a cop/watch/track claim.

Which is exactly why I had strong suspicions of him being scum on D1, and therefore investigated him first, and also why I didn't say much about my suspicions because I knew he would outdebate me before getting an investigation result. I relied on my power too much. I also figured if he was town, he would likely die and at least help confirm my sanity.

Radical Fiction was next on my investigation list. I don't know how the indy SK would have turned up.

Honestly, of the four scum, the only one I DIDN'T suspect going into day 2 was JTB. :x it went obviousHida -> probableGheb -> UnsureRF

I was mad that everyone wanted to lynch roxpsi over hida, and madder when Hida survived past soup. Then again, soup voted himself so guhggtyfg

DatHydra with a good read on using his one shot watch on me. o_O

I guess I need to learn how to play cop/how to "Make connections" and survive the nights.

 

[JTB]

I don't think we expected you to be watched by DH, so we were like whatevs

As soon as DH claimed he watched you, I facedesked and was like WHY DID WE DO THAT

 

[Asdioh]

I'll be V/LA starting tomorrow until Sunday. My immediate suggestion for the kill would be Asdioh.

awww he didn't say why
edit: oh

gheb123 9:52 am
he'll give town little to work with
jaketotheizz0 9:52 am
it should help hida a bit since he was one of the few always voting for him
gheb123 9:53 am
you shouldn't bet on that
smart townies won't drawl conclusions from night kills
jaketotheizz0 9:53 am
alright
gheb123 9:54 am
and i think asdioh has been lying low enough to be a safe kill

Whew. That was tight. Let's be honest, guys--every watcher or tracker in the game is going to be watching me right now. JTB should send in the NK, and I'm fine with asidoh. If you guys think it's better for suspicions on me to be confirmed than to take the chance that some random jerk watches one of you, I'm fine with sending it in. Otherwise, JTB.

hahahahaha xD

 

[th3kuzinator]

So I guess I am that random jerk.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I love this quote. It's soooo true people can say "OMG I CALLED THEM SCUM!" but it's really nothing at all if you cannot convince anyone that they are or get them lynched. =P It actually gives more credit to the one who was called scum because even though they were so apparantly obvious as scum they still weren't dealt with.

Otherwise known as J butthurt over inception mafia.

<3

 

[#HBC | J]

Otherwise known as J butthurt over inception mafia.

<3

I'm soooooooo gonna hurt you cuz you know that's not true. >:[

 

[th3kuzinator]

Kuzi is the only guy I know who will come into this after the game is all and finished and say every scummy was so obvscum and so predictible with their scumplay that they would have been lynched if he was alive.

Mmmmmhmmm.

 

[#HBC | J]

Mmmmmhmmm.

But you do and you even did it here! xD

 

[rPSIvysaur]

what happened in inception/cinemafia?

 

[Purple]

J ****ed up.

 

[#HBC | J]

Lol no Roxy.

It was a really interesting game to say the least where I hid as mafia till the very end of the game cuz of WIFOM I caused by myself in which I killed my own mafia member and made it to final MYLO and was only lynched by everyone else being cleared by night actions and not by being scummy.

Fun game nonetheless and still consider it one of my best preformances =o

but yes it could be construed as a mess-up on my part.

 

[Swiss]

If anyone doesn't believe we had the scum pinned; [15/03/2011 17:26:04] Swiss: So Hida, JTB and Gheb/Glyph are scum. All of our hydra talks were in chat, not text, so we don't have anything else earlier OR after.

Sent to Seph on Skype, he can confirm. We agreed on Gheb about shortly after after I sent Seph this (mainly because of Glyph's first post). Believe us or don't - we don't care. We destroyed the scum. We destroyed the town. We almost didn't track Hida we were so sure he'd be sending that last kill.

I felt and still feel sooo sorry for everyone that wasn't RF. The trolling they did was really obnoxious and I was honestly shocked that they didn't get a semi-big mod punishment (as far as I know anyways). XD

I agree Tanny. It's quite stupid lol.

Narrow minded. You can avoid trolling EASILY. We had Hida as scum and played against him accordingly. We didn't play this game to nice to people - we played it to win. I enjoy this game by paying to my WinCon, I enjoy winning, I win by putting people in emotional and awkward situations where their intent is revealed. Get over it. The game IS ALWAYS fun when you realise why people are ding what they're doing.

And I'm really glad this game is over.

Seph, I liked the theme, but it was pointless with no flavor. Without making adding anything to connect us to the game, you forced us to do flavor searching.

Jeremy, I'm disappointed in you in how you played. I should have seen you for scum, but I didn't want to believe I was wrong.

Soup, you were a terrible player. Just try to play more honestly instead of being so damn clever you're impossible to read.

Too many hydras ruined this game. How can we honestly be expected to get reads if different people on the same role cannot agree on anything?

And I'm sick and tired of all the condescending attitudes and rude behavior. I'm tired of people talking down to me and telling me how stupid and bad a player I am.

Mafia isn't even about how you play any more but how you're expected to play. If you don't fit one perfect mold, you're obviously scum and deserve to die.

So congratulations on trolling everyone so much, Swiss and Ryker. I hope you had fun because I didn't

Salty. We didn't win because we trolled, we trolled (partly) because we knew we'd win anyway. Hydras didn't ruin this game, because the game wasn't ruined. Understand that mafia is about winning, and then you'll see that no matter what people do, as long as it's towards their winCon, it's fun. I don't see you complaining that J AtE's in every post he ever makes, yet here you are complaining that we point out dumb moves. AtE and trolling are two sides of the same coin. Keep the coin or throw it away, you can't have both.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yeah Radical played well, I thought for the most part Tandora was obvious SK based on how he played when I reread the game twice.

 

[Beat!]

She.

Tandora is not a guy.

 

[Vult Redux]

I was so so close to protecting Asidoh on N1.

oops

 

[Swiss]

7. RoxPSI (Roxy/rPSIvysaur) Vanilla Townie Lynched D1 - Not much to say. You played decently iirc. Never bothered re-reading.

8. asdioh Town Cop Died N1 - You were playing well, and seem to able to understand the difference between intent and written word. Want to see you play again. Totally understand why scum NK'd you (doubt they had the PR read, we didn't) - I thought you were a secondary doc protect target.

6. Vult Redux Town Doctor Died N1 - Killed because Ryker knew you to be smart. You're an unknown quantity to me, so I couldn't really plan around you.

12. JTB Mafia Temporary Mason Lynched D2 - Ryker pinned you fast. But I wasn't too sure on you, you'll be a good player and have the makings of a good scum. Got unlucky on the watch.

4. DatHydra (Seikend/th3kuzinator) Town Watcher Died N2 - Played your role perfectly. Good scum reads (iirc). Not sure how much of your slot was Seikend, but if it was 50% ish he's on his way up.


13. Gheb_01 Mafia Trap Master Died N2 - Pinned as scum, but town were putty in your hands. Had doc not died, you'd have lived longer. We couldn't take you 1v1 in thread with this playerlist. You were playing well wrt most players.

3. Soupamario Vanilla Townie Lynched D3 - Terrible play on your last day. Your lynch was still one of the most ******** things I've ever seen, though. You need to be more concise, and understand the framework of mafia here better.

10. smarboy69 (Smargaret/Gordito) - GG. We were worried you'd vote us in LyLo.

5. hidajiremi Mafia vote manipulator Died N3 - Obv scum. Couldn't react to anything we threw at you. Let yourself get involved in an ego battle with us and tried to make some sloppy pushes. I wouldn't have picked at you anywhere near as much had you been town. But needs must, I'm afraid. Also shooting us and vote manipualting us were both terrible decisions. You should have manipulated Gord who was 'actor'. Very sloppy play.

1. J Vanilla Townie Lynched D4 - Ty for replacing. You misread us. Nothing else to say.

2. Tandora Vanilla Townie Lynched D5 - Made several bad calls. Still a solid town player. Don't get mad, get even.

9. Red Ryu Vanilla Townie Endgamed D5 - Hurr durr.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Yeah Radical played well, I thought for the most part Tandora was obvious SK based on how he played when I reread the game twice.

TBQH, I think you made the right call based on the information you had. Smarboy and J both left you with a vote Tand last word and I think her play looked more like SK than ours. It was an awkward situation.

In LyLo, Tand should've pushed somewhere. If you thought it was Red Ryu, push Red Ryu, but you should've pushed at that point. It looked fairly opportunistic the way you seemed to be sitting around looking for an opportunity to vote.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Tandora - No johns </3

Soupamario - You need to chill over this game, real talk. Just because it's not as mechanical as EM doesn't mean you can go round doing dumb stuff. You have the right traits to become a good player though.

hidajiremi - Talk up when not under fire and you'll be up there

asdioh - legit player. It was my plan to kill you. Keep it up.

Red Ryu - Def. not your fault town lost. Refine your scumhunting a bit more by playing and you'll be fine.

RadicalFiction(Swiss/Ryker) - Kill Doc N1, kill Gheb N2, get free MVP GGs

JTB - You'll be a good player soon enough. Horrible luck, just keep on playing.

Gheb_01 - hi

 

[#HBC | J]

AtE and trolling are two sides of the same coin. Keep the coin or throw it away, you can't have both.

I am saving this quote.

 

[Seikend]

In terms of our hydra play, most of the D1 play was me. At the start of the day, we posted about equally, with kuz reviewing my posts first. Once he went V/LA, I think mosts posts were me, with Kuz occassionally dropping in. I gave Kuz my reads for D1, and asked him to send in the Night Action. In my head I had Vult/Asdioh/Tandora as town PRs. As Kuz said, I had Asdioh as towniest. It was Kuz's call in the end though, and a good one.

D2 was pretty much just Kuz.


I felt I played alright, but eh. It's hard to judge just from D1, and a confirmed guilty on D2. I enjoyed it anyway, and i'll be sticking around.


@Glyph I'm so glad you were town, haha. I'm afraid I don't remember why I jumped in to stop your lynch, but I'm sure you looked towny or something. A little unfortunate that you couldn't be more active, but ah well.

@J Thanks for replacing in! Didn't do much if I remember correctly, but that's fair enough considering how many games you were in. Not much to say.

@Tandora This was my read on you at the end of D1:

"Tandora - ??? I don't get Tandora's play at all. Kuz explain please."

Yeah, I kinda felt you wern't really involved in the game. Sorry that you didn't enjoy it.

@Soupamario Soooooup. Soooooooup. Mr. Soup. When you FoSed RF on D3 (or 4?) I thought you were onto something, but you didn't pursue it .__.;

I don't think I'm really qualified to criticise your play. Just need to get used to forum mafia I guess haha. I'd definetely want to hydra with you sometime by the way, just want to get a few solo games under my belt first. I need to work out what goes on in that head of yours D8<.

@DatHydra (Seikend/th3kuzinator) Kuzzzzzzz. Thank you very much for hydraing with me, you were great. I learnt a lot, and had a lot of fun. Your V/LA in the middle of the game kinda screwed over any discussion we could have had, but eh, that's life. I'd definetely like to hydra again sometime!

@hidajiremi I think Gheb said at some point in the game that you were pretty much on everyone's scum list at some point. Obv I can't give any advice on play, but I hope you stick around. Letting one game discourage you would be silly.

@Vult Redux Shame about the Nk ._. Would have like to have seen more from you. Hopefully see you in another game!

@RoxPSI (Roxy/rPSIvysaur) urghhhh apologies for leading that mislynch on you. You were the victims of my overeagerness as a newbie haha. It was that entire page of speculation on how safe my claim as scum is that got to me mostly. It won't happen again.

@asdioh As soon as you posted that image of a thinking cat I knew you were town. But seriously, well played, good night choice. Just got unlucky really.

@Red Ryu Your Sherlock Hound avatars made you look towny >_>;

But yeah, well played. Sucks to get the deciding vote wrong, but it wasn't a super easy choice.

@smarboy69 (Smargaret/Gordito) I wasn't sure of what to think of you on D1, but after that you seemed obv town to me. Not much to say honestly, you slipped under my radar haha.

@RadicalFiction(Swiss/Ryker) Let me inflate your ego more. Well played. I didn't consider you as indy at all when I was alive. I had you as scum by the end of D1, but that was based on "vibes" or whatever. I couldn't produce a case on you. I thought you were obv indy based on the DH/Gheb flip and your sudden push on Hida, but I dunno. Apparently it wasn't that obvious. The Dayvig claim, pushing the idea that Smargboy was a nightvig (I think?) etc. Very smart play. Congrats, a deserved win.

@JTB You played really well. I hadn't considered you scummy at all by the end of D1, you just got unlucky. Hopefully I'll see you around!

@Gheb_01 Yeah, as I said earlier from the chat log I posted, I was completely fooled by you. Had you as obv town. There were only a few moments that struck me as a little odd, but nothing as scummy. Guess I need some more practice. Still, I learned things from you anyway. Thanks very much!

@Seph thanks for hosting! Was a fun game.


Shoutouts are hard.

 

[JTB]

I had alot of fun this game. My main goal was to avoid playing the noob card so that people would treat me like a normal player so that I could get better, but that didn't really matter for my death.

The hardest thing for me was trying to play town, despite having never played town LOL. I think I learned the most during the first 24 hours of the game, I never expected to get so much flak for the soupamario vote, but in retrospect, I can see why.

Anyways, obv MVP is obv, good stuff RF. I thought that either you or smarboy was the vig, so that's why I didn't claim it when DH was pressuring me. Then I die and Seph tells me you are SK and I'm like, lol mafia loses. I'm surprised people ate up your dayvig claim until the last day.

GGs, mafia definitely feels like the perfect game for me, so expect to see me around alot.

 

[Asdioh]

I was so so close to protecting Asidoh on N1.

oops

It's true, he told me about it after we died
Things would have played out very differently with my guilty read on gheb, and DatHydra watching JTB visit me (but if doc protected me I wouldn't have died, so then it would be up to DatHydra if he wanted to pressure JTB for visiting me or not... which he probably would have, considering the doc visited me and was dead [so JTB therefore wasn't doc] I was cop, and he was the watcher... what else could JTB have claimed?)
We could have had the three mafia mostly confirmed by that point, and then I would have investigated Rfiction the next night.

@Mod: what result would the cop get upon investigating the Serial Killer?

8. asdioh Town Cop Died N1 - You were playing well, and seem to able to understand the difference between intent and written word. Want to see you play again. Totally understand why scum NK'd you (doubt they had the PR read, we didn't) - I thought you were a secondary doc protect target.

I was a secondary doc protect target? Everyone really thought I was that towny?
I need to play scummier or something.

@asdioh As soon as you posted that image of a thinking cat I knew you were town. But seriously, well played, good night choice. Just got unlucky really.

haha




@Seph: good job hosting the game! The lack of flavor is a bit.. unusual, but oh well

 

[Purple]

ITT: Errybody mad.

 

[JTB]

Roxy is so mad that I hammered him.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@asdioh

Indys are inno.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

1. @Mod: what result would the cop get upon investigating the Serial Killer?

2. @Seph: good job hosting the game! The lack of flavor is a bit.. unusual, but oh well

1. Gboy is right, indy = inno

2. Yeah, I had all the flavor typed out. But I didn't save it for some reason. But I liked how the game turned out and it was fun to watch.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Kuz

What could've saved JTB if a character/full claim was made (can't remember which of the two it was)?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Absolutely nothing.

Just wanted to give him incentive to character claim.

 

[Swiss]

Kuz lied as town.

LYNCH 'IMMMMM

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Mmm.

Obtw Kuz get on AIM yo.

 

[Asdioh]

Since this thread was bumped, I wanted to say something.

Who did Hidajiremi try to night kill on the night he died? I'm 99% sure it was Rfiction.
Which, imo, should have been one of the factors pointing out Rfiction = indy. He HAD to kill Hida in order to survive. Yes?

 

[Radical Fiction]

It was us. Had he targeted someone else, they would've died.

However, had someone asked the mod if an SK kill would override the kill of the last mafia regardless of who he targeted, it would've been classified information.

 

[Radical Fiction]

That and we would have WIFOMed that to death. Why would Hida target us? By killing us, he's admitting that we were right and nailing himself into a coffin.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I really liked RF's play in this game.